The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Big Blitz]

Tokyo 2020 sponsor Toyota pulls Olympics TV ads in Japan as public support lags

 

 

Five days before the cauldron is lit, a new poll showed more evidence that the Japanese public opposes holding the Games in the country amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

 

 

Toyota said Monday it will not be airing TV commercials in Japan related to the Tokyo Olympics and neither the carmaker’s president nor other top executives will be attending the opening ceremony this week, as the Games continue to face a skeptical Japanese public.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/olympics/tokyo-2020-sponsor-toyota-pulls-olympics-tv-ads-public-support-n1274326

 

 

 

 

It was over 75K in May.

 

When the Olympics were full go.

 

 

Makes perfect sense.  

Edited July 20, 2021 by Big Blitz

[716er]

 

[BillStime]

25 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

We’re seasoned veterans of the great flu of 2020.  We survived the peak of winter or 20-21. We don’t need no stinking vaccine for this blip. 

Unvaccinated Jim?

[ALF]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

No one has been able to do a good job of pinning the Delta surge on the non-vaxxed?

 

 

 

Why did Wall street blame the 700 pt down day on worries of Delta ?  

 

Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths are increasing, and the vast majority were not vaccinated

 

The surge in Covid-19 cases fueled by the Delta variant and vaccine hesitancy has now led to increasing rates of hospitalizations and deaths.
Data from Johns Hopkins University shows: 

 

The average number of new Covid-19 cases each day the past week was 32,278. That's a 66% jump from the average daily rate the previous week, and 145% higher than the rate from two weeks ago.

 

-- An average of 258 Americans died from Covid-19 each day this past week -- up 13% from the rate of daily deaths the previous week. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

[SCBills]

3 hours ago, ALF said:

Here Are The Biggest Groups That Are Still Refusing The Covid-19 Vaccine, Poll Finds   Jun 11, 2021

 

new polling analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that certain groups—including younger Americans and Republicans—are among the most likely to be declining the shot.

 

Nearly half of unvaccinated respondents were Republicans (49% versus 29% Democrats), as opposed to 31% of vaccinated respondents who identified as Republicans and 59% Democrats.

 

Both unvaccinated and vaccinated respondents were disproportionately likely to be white (56% unvaccinated versus 64% vaccinated), based in the suburbs (56% unvaccinated versus 52% vaccinated) and have health insurance (76% unvaccinated versus 88% vaccinated).

 

There were also discrepancies between unvaccinated respondents who said they would “definitely not” get the vaccine and those who just plan to “wait and see”: The “definitely not” group is overwhelmingly more white (70% of respondents), Republican (67%) and concentrated in the 30-49 age group (48%).

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/11/here-are-the-biggest-groups-that-are-still-refusing-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/?sh=11825dc842cc

Eh.. not sure I put much credence into this poll…. Insofar as it throws around a bunch of cherry picked stats to come to a predetermined conclusion that white male republicans are the problem. 
 

First off, the whole “definitely not getting it” question… let’s be real, if you haven’t gotten it by now, you’re very likely not getting it. 
 

Second, anecdotal on my end for sure, but every guy my age that I know (30’s), has not, and is not, getting the vaccine.  That includes white, hispanic and black. 
 

If I had to guess, it’s men, ages 30-49, regardless of color or political affiliation, not getting the vax.  
 

Under 30 year olds seem to just do what they’re told..  and over 49 should be the ones strongly considering getting the vaccine. 
 

Edited July 20, 2021 by SCBills

[ALF]

Not getting vaccinated is playing Russian roulette  jmo 

[oldmanfan]

The delta variant is hitting the younger population more and is more infectious.  The vaccines are incredibly effective and the risks of potential complications, myocarditis with the mRNA vaccines and blood clots with J&J, are extremely rare with around 5 cases per million, with the vast majority of these being non-fatal.  And the idea that there are long term risks to the vaccines is not supported by the history of vaccines that shows any side effects are found within weeks of widespread application.   The nonsense about things like microchips and the vaccines being gene therapy are just that- nonsense.  And all the data show that vaccinated people are at much less risk of contracting Covid and if they do, that their risk of death or significant illness is minuscule.

 

These are the actual facts.  Yet you have states like Tennessee actively trying to keep kids from getting not only the Covid vaccines, but any vaccines.  You have idiots like Carlson spewing nonsense.  There is only one logical conclusion:  they want people to die.  They would prefer people die so they can promote political nonsense.

Edited July 20, 2021 by oldmanfan

[Sundancer]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Wait 2 weeks!

 

 

 

Yeah you’re the guy with 100 posts mocking the Delta variant as nothing to worry about. The UK is about 6-8 weeks ahead of us on their delta spread and will break their case record this week. Hospitalizations significantly up there. And they have a similar vax % as us.
 

But yeah, I’m sure things will be super different in the US. 
 

I don’t want any lockdowns, mask mandates or anything like that in this rise but unlike Chef Jim, I doubt we will be that lucky. We had the way to avoid this in our grasp and blew it. Old and immuno compromised people will die. Our health system will get bogged down more, again. The unvaccinated will breed more mutations. people including kids will get long Covid, affecting their nervous system over the long term. And for sure, our politicians will close schools and enact shutdowns that cause even more mental and physical health problems.
 

We will get through it but the worst aspects of this wave will have been largely avoidable. 

Edited July 20, 2021 by Sundancer

[SectionC3]

10 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

I see. So asking you to clarify your position is immature but you playing petulant little child and refusing is acting like an adult?

 

What color is the sky in your world counselor? 

 

Your gibberish is incomprehensible.  

10 hours ago, ALF said:

 

That's what covid did to most of the world , thank China

 

And Trump.  I'm still waiting for this to magically disappear. 

[Westside]

13 hours ago, ALF said:

 

Trump supporters who refuse to get the vaccine has let the Delta variant get completely out of control . What a mess

Must be all those inner city Trump supporters who refuse to get the shot. 
What a mess.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

36 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Your gibberish is incomprehensible.  
 

I find the Chef’s gibberish quite prehensible, but I’m open-minded. 

36 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

And Trump.  I'm still waiting for this to magically disappear. 

45 spearheaded the charge to defeat the virus, while his opponents sowed seeds of doubt about the trustworthiness of the vaccine.  Open your heart. 

[Westside]

10 hours ago, BillStime said:

Did she upset you? 

 

 

Send this message to the inner cities where the vaccination rate is in the mid 20 %. 
But yeah, it’s the evil white people that’s the problem. 😒😒😒

[Sundancer]

24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I find the Chef’s gibberish quite prehensible, but I’m open-minded. 

45 spearheaded the charge to defeat the virus, while his opponents sowed seeds of doubt about the trustworthiness of the vaccine.  Open your heart. 

Push whatever narrative you want I guess. We have an undervaccination problem and though we will persevere, it will result in easily avoidable deaths and suffering. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 

 

And Trump.  I'm still waiting for this to magically disappear. 

Not even close. But nice try at the historical rewrite. Trump was the one who spearheaded the vaccine project that you now cling to! Yes, he was indeed trying to put on a good face for the American people, not wanting them to live in utter panic or fear; but behind the scenes he was working to fix the problem. Did your parents tell you everything that was going on in your house, at their job, etc? I’m guessing not. Don’t be an arse! 

[Westside]

12 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

Push whatever narrative you want I guess. We have an undervaccination problem and though we will persevere, it will result in easily avoidable deaths and suffering. 

No, we have an over infiltration problem in the Democratic Party. It’s being controlled by radical group of pro Marxist people who want to burn this country down.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

Push whatever narrative you want I guess. We have an undervaccination problem and though we will persevere, it will result in easily avoidable deaths and suffering. 

What I offered is a matter of public record.  Trump’s critics certainly have fodder to focus upon, but he quite literally lead the campaign from “We have nothing for this virus” to delivery of a vaccine in an amazingly short period of time.   The partnership between public/private enterprise was exceptionally impressive, and you don’t have to rock a MAGA hat and dance in the sun under a Trump tent to acknowledge that.
 

I suppose if one is interested in carrying water for opponents like Cuomo, Harris and Biden, it’s possible to pretend their comments about vaccinating under a Trump admin had no impact on vaccine hesitancy.  That’s happened here before, when old friends here wanted to pretend  the tens of millions of vaccine hesitant liberals and Dems weren’t a thing.  It’s bs, of course, but there’s plenty of that to go around. 

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not even close. But nice try at the historical rewrite. Trump was the one who spearheaded the vaccine project that you now cling to! Yes, he was indeed trying to put on a good face for the American people, not wanting them to live in utter panic or fear; but behind the scenes he was working to fix the problem. Did your parents tell you everything that was going on in your house, at their job, etc? I’m guessing not. Don’t be an arse! 

@Sundancer   This is how you do it!  Calm, rational analysis. 

[Sundancer]

21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

What I offered is a matter of public record.  Trump’s critics certainly have fodder to focus upon, but he quite literally lead the campaign from “We have nothing for this virus” to delivery of a vaccine in an amazingly short period of time.   The partnership between public/private enterprise was exceptionally impressive, and you don’t have to rock a MAGA hat and dance in the sun under a Trump tent to acknowledge that.
 

 

Agreed 100%.

 

21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I suppose if one is interested in carrying water for opponents like Cuomo, Harris and Biden, it’s possible to pretend their comments about vaccinating under a Trump admin had no impact on vaccine hesitancy.  That’s happened here before, when old friends here wanted to pretend  the tens of millions of vaccine hesitant liberals and Dems weren’t a thing.  It’s bs, of course, but there’s plenty of that to go around. 

 

Agreed 100%.

 

21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

@Sundancer   This is how you do it!  Calm, rational analysis. 

 

"Did your parents tell you everything that was going on in your house, at their job, etc? I’m guessing not."

 

This is not how I want my government run, and I suspect, neither do you. 

28 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

No, we have an over infiltration problem in the Democratic Party. It’s being controlled by radical group of pro Marxist people who want to burn this country down.

 

That's exciting and irrelevant. Get vaccinated and encourage others to do so. 

58 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

Send this message to the inner cities where the vaccination rate is in the mid 20 %. 
But yeah, it’s the evil white people that’s the problem. 😒😒😒

 

It's all of our problem. 

[SectionC3]

43 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not even close. But nice try at the historical rewrite. Trump was the one who spearheaded the vaccine project that you now cling to! Yes, he was indeed trying to put on a good face for the American people, not wanting them to live in utter panic or fear; but behind the scenes he was working to fix the problem. Did your parents tell you everything that was going on in your house, at their job, etc? I’m guessing not. Don’t be an arse! 

Lysol.  The man tried to use Lysol to combat the virus.  That says it all.  Not a mask, not social distancing, not anything grounded in common sense.  Lysol.  

[SCBills]

3 hours ago, Sundancer said:

Yeah you’re the guy with 100 posts mocking the Delta variant as nothing to worry about. The UK is about 6-8 weeks ahead of us on their delta spread and will break their case record this week. Hospitalizations significantly up there. And they have a similar vax % as us.
 

But yeah, I’m sure things will be super different in the US. 
 

I don’t want any lockdowns, mask mandates or anything like that in this rise but unlike Chef Jim, I doubt we will be that lucky. We had the way to avoid this in our grasp and blew it. Old and immuno compromised people will die. Our health system will get bogged down more, again. The unvaccinated will breed more mutations. people including kids will get long Covid, affecting their nervous system over the long term. And for sure, our politicians will close schools and enact shutdowns that cause even more mental and physical health problems.
 

We will get through it but the worst aspects of this wave will have been largely avoidable. 

 

Might want to check out the vaccination rates of the EU countries locking down before you pretend "we had the way to avoid this in our grasp"..... Once again, as it was before, we do have a way to avoid this..... Just.  Avoid.  This.  Stop simping the government and letting them dominate your life with fear. 

[RiotAct]

9 hours ago, ALF said:

 

Why did Wall street blame the 700 pt down day on worries of Delta ?  

 

Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths are increasing, and the vast majority were not vaccinated

 

The surge in Covid-19 cases fueled by the Delta variant and vaccine hesitancy has now led to increasing rates of hospitalizations and deaths.
Data from Johns Hopkins University shows: 

 

The average number of new Covid-19 cases each day the past week was 32,278. That's a 66% jump from the average daily rate the previous week, and 145% higher than the rate from two weeks ago.

 

-- An average of 258 Americans died from Covid-19 each day this past week -- up 13% from the rate of daily deaths the previous week. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

what I want to know is… how many were young children who can’t get the vaccine yet?

 

Because, at the risk of sounding callous, everyone 12+ has had the opportunity for months now to get fully vaccinated (besides the extremely rare legit health reason).

 

Again, these numbers are interesting to keep an eye on, but they definitely should not precipitate any kind of shutdowns en masse like in March 2020.

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Your gibberish is incomprehensible.  

 

And Trump.  I'm still waiting for this to magically disappear. 

 

 

 

I'm still waiting for it to be "over" because we flattened the curve.  

 

What metric are we trying to meet this month?

 

 

Can't keep up with all the goal post moving.  

[716er]

 

 

Awful

[Big Blitz]

For a vaccine so super safe why they waiting so long to approve it for under 12 year olds?

 

Why wasn't it approved for 12 to 18 right away?  

 

 

Spare me "run on supply."  We have always had more then enough.  

 

Freaking sheep.  Gullible sheep.  

[Sundancer]

18 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Might want to check out the vaccination rates of the EU countries locking down before you pretend "we had the way to avoid this in our grasp"..... Once again, as it was before, we do have a way to avoid this..... Just.  Avoid.  This.  Stop simping the government and letting them dominate your life with fear. 

 

I am against any shutdowns. That doesn't mean that this current run we're going to have with the Delta variant needs to be as bad as it will be. 

 

Get vaccinated. 

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

For a vaccine so super safe why they waiting so long to approve it for under 12 year olds?

 

Why wasn't it approved for 12 to 18 right away?  

 

 

Spare me "run on supply."  We have always had more then enough.  

 

Freaking sheep.  Gullible sheep.  

 

Do you understand that children are much different than adults? Getting dosages right for kids is not as simple as halving the amount if they weigh half as much. 

[716er]

2 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

Do you understand that children are much different than adults? Getting dosages right for kids is not as simple as halving the amount if they weigh half as much. 

 

Ignore the moron - he has zero clue how clinical research and trials are conducted. Just the other day he was livid Moderna wanted to study women (and their eventual newborn) who found out they were pregnant after receiving their 2nd vaccine dose. 

 

 

[ALF]

India’s excess deaths during COVID could be over 4 million: Study

 

Excess deaths during pandemic may be a staggering 10 times the official COVID-19 toll, says the most comprehensive research yet conducted.

Most experts believe India’s official toll of more than 414,000 dead is a vast undercount but the government has dismissed those concerns as exaggerated and misleading.

 

The report released on Tuesday estimated excess deaths – the gap between those recorded and those that would have been expected – to be between 3 to 4.7 million between January 2020 and June 2021.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/20/india-covid-deaths-10-times-official-toll-research

 

The Delta variant

[Big Blitz]

19 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

I am against any shutdowns. That doesn't mean that this current run we're going to have with the Delta variant needs to be as bad as it will be. 

 

Get vaccinated. 

 

Do you understand that children are much different than adults? Getting dosages right for kids is not as simple as halving the amount if they weigh half as much. 

 

 

Not my point.  

 

 

We're being told to take a new vaccine.   

 

So we know how it impacts adults, right? 

 

We've been studying the technology for years, right?  That's why we know it's safe.  

 

Why do kids need more study?  If we know how effective they are what are we still studying?  

 

We're already bypassing FDA approval.  

 

That alone might just be why you know millions of people (all Trump voters obviously) will not take it.  

 

 

 

And that will be the same with kids..

 

Especially since parents are going to and are seeing they will still be in masks.  They'll pull them out of their deep blue ***t hole state school before subjecting them to more distancing and masks.   

Edited July 20, 2021 by Big Blitz

[All_Pro_Bills]

13 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

I am against any shutdowns. That doesn't mean that this current run we're going to have with the Delta variant needs to be as bad as it will be. 

 

Get vaccinated.

The usual suspects across the country are starting to wind up the panic machine.  But as viruses mutate they generally become more infectious but less lethal.  So I would expect the hospitalization, ICU,  and death counts to be proportionally lower than the previous waves.  The vaccines are expected to provide at least some level of protection which could make any infections of vaccinated people even less severe.  

 

People at general risk are the same as before.  Elderly and people with health issues like overweight, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, respiratory diseases.  Personally, I'm against vaccinating children under 12 as they have close to zero risk of serious illness and even less risk of death.  Vaccinating them violates the concept of "medical necessity".   

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sundancer]

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The usual suspects across the country are starting to wind up the panic machine.  But as viruses mutate they generally become more infectious but less lethal.  So I would expect the hospitalization, ICU,  and death counts to be proportionally lower than the previous waves. 

 

As a general rule, true. But it's definitely not a given. Ebola and the Spanish Flu were the opposite. And this Delta is much more highly contagious so that may mask any fatality dilution it has, if it indeed has that at all. 

 

Quote

The vaccines are expected to provide at least some level of protection which could make any infections of vaccinated people even less severe.  

 

This seems to be the case, which is good for the vaccinated. 

Edited July 20, 2021 by Sundancer

[Big Blitz]

They have broken every bond of trust imaginable.  

 

Trump included.   

 

 

We've posted every single example ad nauseum for going on almost 2 years now. 

 

They don't deserve anyone's trust.  

 

Never, ever, ever are we getting 75% of this planet vaccinated in the next 5 to 10 years.  I got it in March.  Yes I'd like everyone to get it but I can't make them, won't guilt them to, and it's irrelevant because as I said it just won't happen anyway.   

 

And even if we did, it's going to be another variant that's "proving to be a problem for the vaccine."   

 

And it will never end.  Ever.  If you don't understand this by now you're a lost cause.

 

They will not relinquish the power you are giving them because you've shown them how scared you are and thus easy to control.  They can then do whatever they want. 

 

And then they'll blame Trump voters!  More pathetic designed division!  Woo hoo!

 

 

 

Buy less stuff!

 

Universal income!

 

Voting season!   

 

Mandatory this, Mandatory that.   

 

They now treat Silicon Valley like its another government agency.  

 

Climate change and guns = public health crisis.  

 

 

We told you this in April.....of 2020.  And it's all happened.

 

I guess you'll need tanks in your neighborhood like they do in China when Covid-24 breaks out to finally get the message.

 

We'd like you to figure that out sooner then later.   

Edited July 20, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Chef Jim]

10 hours ago, ALF said:

 

Why did Wall street blame the 700 pt down day on worries of Delta ?  

 

Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths are increasing, and the vast majority were not vaccinated

 

The surge in Covid-19 cases fueled by the Delta variant and vaccine hesitancy has now led to increasing rates of hospitalizations and deaths.
Data from Johns Hopkins University shows: 

 

The average number of new Covid-19 cases each day the past week was 32,278. That's a 66% jump from the average daily rate the previous week, and 145% higher than the rate from two weeks ago.

 

-- An average of 258 Americans died from Covid-19 each day this past week -- up 13% from the rate of daily deaths the previous week. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

 

So we're taking our cues from the daily skittish Wall Street's investors and algorithms?  

[Sundancer]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Not my point.  

 

 

We're being told to take a new vaccine.   

 

So we know how it impacts adults, right? 

 

Not long term no, but we know the risk profile of Covid more than the vaccine and there's no comparison. 

 

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We've been studying the technology for years, right?  That's why we know it's safe.  

 

Yes. 

 

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Why do kids need more study?  If we know how effective they are what are we still studying?  

 

Again, children are not adults. Drugs react differently because kids don't have the same hormonal balance AND they vary greatly in size. You can't be this dense can you? 

 

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We're already bypassing FDA approval.  

 

That alone might just be why you know millions of people (all Trump voters obviously) will not take it.  

 

We are not bypassing FDA approval. We have its emergency approval because you know, emergency. 

 

When they get full approval in another month or so, are you saying that the millions will line up to take it? Is all that's needed is that last step?

 

I am feeding the troll, I know, but maybe others will benefit. 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Your gibberish is incomprehensible.  

 

 

 

Asking you to clarify your position as to why the GA Bill is Jim Crow on steroids is incomprehensible gibberish?   

 

Real men admit when they are wrong.  

 

Later Troll........

[SoCal Deek]

I’m not sure why this is so complicated to so many people. Until such time as vaccines are mandatory (which is highly unlikely and unenforceable in a free society) you’re going to have a segment of the adult population that will CHOOSE to not get vaccinated. That’s just normal! A certain percentage got vaccinated in trials, then more when the trials appeared to be OK, and then more still when the rewards appeared to outweigh the experimentation and risk. The next wave of vaccinations will coincide with the next wave of cases and fatalities. Once again….this is all normal! No amount of coaxing or give aways and certainly NOT name calling, is going to change that. Relax!

[Chef Jim]

On 7/19/2021 at 5:03 AM, Tiberius said:

Stock market getting hit hard today. Those stocks dealing with public travel and vacation stuff getting battered. Good job anti Vader’s. Morons 

 

You're welcome.  

[RiotAct]

stock market up big today!   Everything is good again.  Right?

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

stock market up big today!   Everything is good again.  Right?

 

I think so.  Some very wise person told us this yesterday.  

[B-Man]

 

 

Seems as though are "who is paying for our Texas Democrats thread is gone.

 

I will throw this here then

 

 

SIXTH TEXAS DEMOCRAT TESTS POSITIVE FOR COVID AFTER FLEEING STATE TO BLOCK GOP VOTING BILL.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/07/20/sixth-texas-dem-tests-positive-for-covid-after-fleeing-state-to-block-gop-voting-bill/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

 

ALSO:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess several people are "paying"

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Nothing does Cole.  

 

Absolutely nothing.  

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So we're taking our cues from the daily skittish Wall Street's investors and algorithms?  

Jim, you know what they say.  To be a successful investor, by all means react emotionally to every dip, spike, drop and the prognostications of talking heads pro/anti/neutral investing.  
 

Hang on every word, that’s the path to enlightenment and happiness. 
 

CRAHP—just saw a elk know ln blue chipper I’m in just dipped .15 c per share.  It’s a long term holding, bought it 4 mos ago.  I gotta dump that pig now!  

Edited July 20, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd