The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

LMAO - you talking about all the personalities on Fox? Trump? Or @Deranged Rhino

 

I can't keep up with you nutjobs.

 

 

You're nuts no evidence accusing everyone here.  Zero evidence.  Why you're taking bs. BTW I'm one person and name. Ask the mods If want to get total proof. Don't accuse me without any evidence.  

[GG]

Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

You're nuts no evidence accusing everyone here.  Zero evidence.  Why you're taking bs. BTW I'm one person and name. Ask the mods If want to get total proof. Don't accuse me without any evidence.  

 

Don't let the cat toy bother you.  

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Don't let the cat toy bother you.  

Right. Know each person here is different. That person just talking crap

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

You're nuts no evidence accusing everyone here.  Zero evidence.  Why you're taking bs. BTW I'm one person and name. Ask the mods If want to get total proof. Don't accuse me without any evidence.  

 

LMAO - wait - who are you?  You freaks cannot keep your logins straight.

 

Typical Trump trash.

 

LOL

 

[Niagara Bill]

3 hours ago, GG said:

 

Glad to see that they think Cuomo did a splendid job. 

 

Don't forget to send flowers to the funerals. 

 

Oh I forgot, there were no funerals because the bodies were dumped into Uhaul trucks.

Hey GG, it is your guy Pence who is pro life to get votes from his Bible friends and then ignores 120,000 deaths and refuses to wear a mask or acknowledge to growing numbers.

Ps  I have no problem with his pro life stance, each life counts, but I do have issues with his stance on 120,000 citizens. And you should to.

 

[GG]

3 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Hey GG, it is your guy Pence who is pro life to get votes from his Bible friends and then ignores 120,000 deaths and refuses to wear a mask or acknowledge to growing numbers.

Ps  I have no problem with his pro life stance, each life counts, but I do have issues with his stance on 120,000 citizens. And you should to.

 

 

What in the world are you talking about?

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, GG said:

 

What in the world are you talking about?

Not even he knows. 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, bilzfancy said:

The Ayatollah put kids in cages too, were you upset then?

That's a strange way to spell "Obama". 

26 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Hey GG, it is your guy Pence who is pro life to get votes from his Bible friends and then ignores 120,000 deaths and refuses to wear a mask or acknowledge to growing numbers.

Ps  I have no problem with his pro life stance, each life counts, but I do have issues with his stance on 120,000 citizens. And you should to.

 

It's too. When are you Canadians going to learn to spell?

[bilzfancy]

10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

That's a strange way to spell "Obama". 

It's too. When are you Canadians going to learn to spell?

I call him Ayatollah because he did far more good for Iran then he ever did for America

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

I call him Ayatollah because he did far more good for Iran then he ever did for America

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

I call him Ayatollah because he did far more good for Iran then he ever did for America

 

Such an ignorant Trumphole.

 

[Big Blitz]

Silver calls this "not good at all."  I'm sorry what?  Isnt the rapidly declining death rate a bigger deal here then "spikes!"  Which btw as he notes are being totally driven by just 4 states.  

 

 

Edited June 18, 2020 by Big Blitz

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

You've chosen to ignore content by BillStime. Options 

 

We all should do the same ignore BillStime.! 

 

Niagara Bill is blaming deaths on Pence now. I think he's trying to say.  Trying to say loves bible but ignores people died from covid19. As well as trying to say ignore mask and growing numbers.  

 

I'd say to him fake news!

[Big Blitz]

Almost 10% in NC have antibodies.  They believe it was 1-2% in early May

 

 

 

[bilzfancy]

23 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Such an ignorant Trumphole.

 

Such an ignorant butthole

[plenzmd1]

5 hours ago, LB3 said:

Thanks. How did you know I get out of work early for golf league tonight? 

Man, i played 9 early afternoon..started Par-Birdie-Par---ended 44..i suck!

3 hours ago, GG said:

 

Are you intentionally trying to prove that you are a blithering idiot?

 

Everything you described actually happened!

 

The "non-existent" pandemic response team created the Wuhan virus task force in January and there was constant dialogue between the Feds and the high risk states from January through February.  Most governors took the warnings seriously.   Throughout this time, the response from NYS was that everything was fine, despite many people's concerns that NYS wasn't taking the threat seriously.  Who told people to go out and enjoy a movie on March 2?  Who was still squabbling on March 11 about holding St Patty's parade?  

 

Why were the only states to have severe outbreaks and deaths were the ones following Cuomo's lead instead of the Fed's guidelines?

 

The story is more clear that NYS completely fubared the response, yet because Cuomo gave good press conferences people ignored dead bodies being dumped on Hart Island and in uHauls.  None of that had to happen if the governor was more concerned about what's happening in his state and not fighting with the moron Nazi mayor.  Thousands died unnecessarily because the two numbskulls can't govern beyond a camera appearance!

 

But because you are a moron, you equate good press coverage with competence.   Yet, the thousands of unnecessary dead people and their families disagree with that version of reality.  And all because  you hate Trump.  That's sick.

 

BTW, that Fauci story isn't supporting your point in the way you think it did.  By holding off recommending mask use by the general public, he ensured that the virus spread much faster than it would have if he urged people to start using masks in February.  How many lives would have been saved then? 

 

 

Damn, nailed it on "good press conferences= better response'...amazing how gullible people really are ...and that goes both ways in my book. Trump and his admin are open for criticism too, but damn good in front of the camera means so much more than results its crazy.

 

I playes sports through college,  love sports now, I have been in sales my whole life..whats great about both is the only thing that really matter is results...

Edited June 19, 2020 by plenzmd1

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

All of @Deranged Rhino's friends, I mean personalities are out in full force today.

 

Really been a bad 3.5 years for you freaks.

 

 

 

It's been ***** AWESOME!!!!   Thank you for this amazing entertainment!1 

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

LMAO - wait - who are you?  You freaks cannot keep your logins straight.

 

Typical Trump trash.

 

LOL

 

 

You have to be the only one in the world that has dumb memes saved on their computer.   

[shoshin]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I'm confused. I thought we only cared about hospital cases (specifically ICU cases). People getting COVID-19 and not getting horribly sick (asymptomatic) is how we reach herd immunity, isn't it? Is that graph showing people in hospital beds? In the ICU? Or simply more people showing they have COVID-19 as more testing is done?




 

So far huge rises in cases preceded mass hospitalizations, as most recently seen in Arizona where the big case rise started a couple weeks ago. 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Silver calls this "not good at all."  I'm sorry what?  Isnt the rapidly declining death rate a bigger deal here then "spikes!"  Which btw as he notes are being totally driven by just 4 states.  

 

 

Case spikes have preceded deaths. This would be the first time anyplace has seen a case spike without deaths Coming later. It might happen and it would be great to be the first place to see rising cases and not deaths. 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, GG said:

 

What in the world are you talking about?

Niagara is 100% Christian hating trash. If he came even close to saying the same things about people of a sexual orientation or race he’d be completely and publicly shunned. 

[plenzmd1]

25 minutes ago, shoshin said:

So far huge rises in cases preceded mass hospitalizations, as most recently seen in Arizona where the big case rise started a couple weeks ago. 

Case spikes have preceded deaths. This would be the first time anyplace has seen a case spike without deaths Coming later. It might happen and it would be great to be the first place to see rising cases and not deaths. 

so could this not be the case? And it may not, and these case spike worry me, but here goes

 

Contact tracing has expanded..so now a positive test triggers many more tests of those in close proximity...so even asymptomatic people who 4 weeks ago would never see a test are getting tested now and proving positive. Asymptomatic still , but positive.

 

I thought thought that was what was happening in Florida. Migrant farm worker test positive, even though asymptomatic, every one who has contact with that person is then tested, and they test positive as well. 95% asymptomatic(guess on my part)...

 

I think the real test is ICU and deaths in the next 7-10 days in these hot spots, and 3 weeks out from the rally in Tulsa.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

CORONAVIRUS

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Texas woman tests positive for coronavirus for second time

By Kayla Rivas | Fox News

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A woman in Texas recently took to social media, sharing her tearful journey after she says she contracted COVID-19 twice.

Meredith McKee urged her Facebook followers to take the disease seriously, and uploaded pictures from her hospital bed at Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas, swathed in a face mask and gown.

TO PROTECT AGAINST CORONAVIRUS, CDC SAYS TO HAVE THESE 3 ITEMS ON HAND WHEN VENTURING OUT

“For the SECOND time in 12 weeks I have contracted Covid19. Yes, you can get it again & it hit me like a ton of bricks...again,” McKee wrote.

She said the infection was different the second time around “but no less horrendous.”

McKee wrote that she sought hospital care due to high blood pressure.

“I knew there was a serious problem,” she wrote.

SCIENTIST DEMONSTRATES IMPORTANCE OF CORONAVIRUS FACE MASK USE IN UNIQUE AIRFLOW VIDEO

The woman told NBC-5 when she was diagnosed in February, she had “clear and obvious” symptoms, like a dry cough. She reportedly fought the virus at home and beat the disease.

An antibody test allegedly detected a positive presence of antibodies, and McKee claims she donated her plasma in an effort to help others overcome the virus.

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-woman-tests-coronavirus-positive-for-second-time

[Chef Jim]

News from the front. 
 

Dentist appoint today. Just had to call from the car when I arrive and wear a mask until in the chair. So in the past three weeks. 
 

Haircut 

Dr Appt (2)

In restaurant dining 

Gym

Dentist

 

Nothing to see her folks. Move along. Party’s over. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

You have to be the only one in the world that has dumb memes saved on their computer.   

Where do you think I got the image from? 

 

 

[LB3]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Man, i played 9 early afternoon..started Par-Birdie-Par---ended 44..i suck!

I started with par-bogey-bogey-bogey. All were birdie putts to start. ?? I literally also finished with a 44. Golf = my favorite headache.

[shoshin]

8 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

so could this not be the case? And it may not, and these case spike worry me, but here goes

 

Contact tracing has expanded..so now a positive test triggers many more tests of those in close proximity...so even asymptomatic people who 4 weeks ago would never see a test are getting tested now and proving positive. Asymptomatic still , but positive.

 

Contact tracing didn’t start finding new cases in the last 6 days after not finding them before. 
 

Quote

 

I thought thought that was what was happening in Florida. Migrant farm worker test positive, even though asymptomatic, every one who has contact with that person is then tested, and they test positive as well. 95% asymptomatic(guess on my part)...

 

I think the real test is ICU and deaths in the next 7-10 days in these hot spots, and 3 weeks out from the rally in Tulsa.

 

A couple weeks. Hopefully cases will settle and this is short-lived. Because if not, it will bode ill for the northeast and other reopening places, especially with fall coming. 

7 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

CORONAVIRUS

Published 1 day ago

Texas woman tests positive for coronavirus for second time

By Kayla Rivas | Fox News

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Fox News Flash top headlines for June 17

A woman in Texas recently took to social media, sharing her tearful journey after she says she contracted COVID-19 twice.

Meredith McKee urged her Facebook followers to take the disease seriously, and uploaded pictures from her hospital bed at Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas, swathed in a face mask and gown.

TO PROTECT AGAINST CORONAVIRUS, CDC SAYS TO HAVE THESE 3 ITEMS ON HAND WHEN VENTURING OUT

“For the SECOND time in 12 weeks I have contracted Covid19. Yes, you can get it again & it hit me like a ton of bricks...again,” McKee wrote.

She said the infection was different the second time around “but no less horrendous.”

McKee wrote that she sought hospital care due to high blood pressure.

“I knew there was a serious problem,” she wrote.

SCIENTIST DEMONSTRATES IMPORTANCE OF CORONAVIRUS FACE MASK USE IN UNIQUE AIRFLOW VIDEO

The woman told NBC-5 when she was diagnosed in February, she had “clear and obvious” symptoms, like a dry cough. She reportedly fought the virus at home and beat the disease.

An antibody test allegedly detected a positive presence of antibodies, and McKee claims she donated her plasma in an effort to help others overcome the virus.

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-woman-tests-coronavirus-positive-for-second-time

She would be the first documented person to get hit a second time after recovering. 
 

I have my doubts. Sounds like panic porn or just a simple resurgent case that they thought went dormant. With all the cases so far worldwide, whatever she is is an outlier. 

Edited June 19, 2020 by shoshin

[Chef Jim]

42 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Where do you think I got the image from? 

 

 

Your private Donald porn stash?  Obsession is not healthy. 

[Warren Zevon]

[Chef Jim]

33 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Why is this in this thread? 
 

EDIT:

Oh wait....I know why

 

BEST

PANDEMIC

EVER!!!

Edited June 19, 2020 by Chef Jim

[Magox]

Clearly some dynamic has changed with the testing to cause the average age of each COVID infected person to plummet

 

 

[Rob's House]

 

[shoshin]

These numbers in Texas look a lot like where AZ hospitals were a few weeks ago. Exponential looking rise starting there. We will see if FL follows suit in the coming days--their case rise was a little behind Texas and a few weeks behind AZ.  

 

 

The thing to really watch for is whether these states can flatten the hospital usage resource curve while remaining open. 

[Foxx]

[Magox]

Since the average age of each COVID person is plummeting which we are clearly seeing in Texas and Florida, it changes the dynamic and no longer are hospital admissions the key metric but rather ICU and ventilator usage.   
 

The more you delve into the data the more you realize this is panic porn.  Don’t expect most of the media to report these nuances.

 

 

 

It’s not that it’s going down nearly as much as that seniors aren’t being infected as much as before.

[shoshin]

26 minutes ago, Magox said:

Since the average age of each COVID person is plummeting which we are clearly seeing in Texas and Florida, it changes the dynamic and no longer are hospital admissions the key metric but rather ICU and ventilator usage.   
 

The more you delve into the data the more you realize this is panic porn.  Don’t expect most of the media to report these nuances.

 

 

It’s not that it’s going down nearly as much as that seniors aren’t being infected as much as before.

 

Numbers above about TX current patients in the hospital for covid and here is the ICU usage for everyone and COVID, showing 130 new covid ICU beds in use in the last 4 days (an increase of 40% in 4 days) with a current operational capacity to accept 200 more into ICU beds.

 

The info on that page shows a surge capacity (which means it would take some time to set up) that could handle about 450 more. 

 

When you see 130 new ICU beds used in 4 days in an exponential rise, and you have 200 free beds across the entire state--remember these are distributed resources--this isn't panic porn but surely attention-worthy. 

 

I'd really like to see that TX hospitalization curve flatten, as well as the ICU bed one. The case spike precedes the hospitalization spike precedes the ICU bed spike precedes the death spike. No place has set a different pattern than this to date. 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by shoshin

[SoCal Deek]

Yesterday, Thursday, only THREE states (ILL, CA and North Carolina oddly enough) reported in excess of 50 Covid 19 deaths and once again none were anywhere close to being in triple digits. A total of 30 states were in single digits with 10 states reporting zero. There’s been very little change now for a few weeks. A bump or a dip here or there but it seems to have reached an equilibrium. While nobody like the deaths, the steady statistical stabilization is just what we needed to be able to judge the actual impact, if any, of reopening, public gatherings, etc.

[Magox]

12 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

Numbers above about TX current patients in the hospital for covid and here is the ICU usage for everyone and COVID, showing 130 new covid beds in use in the last 4 days (an increase of 40% in 4 days) with a current operational capacity to accept 200 more into ICU beds.

 

This shows a surge capacity (which means it would take some time to set up) that could handle about 450 more. 

 

When you see 130 new ICU beds used in 4 days in an exponential rise, and you have 200 free beds across the entire state--remember these are distributed resources--this isn't panic porn but attention-worthy. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ICU has gone up but ventilator use is flat.    

 

It sort of a progression, Infected - Hospital - ICU - Ventilator. 

 

Also, that ventilator use nor ICU nor Hospital beds are nowhere near in any sort of critical mass.

 

I read that 25% Of Hospitalizations in Texas related to COVID are below age 30.  Meaning that very likely we will see the vast majority of these folks get out of those hospitals quickly, dwell times will be lower than the previous means.

 

Yeah, it's all panic porn at this point.

 

But that's a good site.  I will make sure to keep it up on my tabs.

Edited June 19, 2020 by Magox

[shoshin]

7 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

 

ICU has gone up but ventilator use is flat.    

 

It sort of a progression, Infected - Hospital - ICU - Ventilator. 

 

Also, that ventilator use nor ICU nor Hospital beds are nowhere near in any sort of critical mass.

 

 

 

ICU covid usage went up by 130 beds in 4 days. There is a total operational capacity of 200 ICU beds free and 450 nonoperational more across the entirety of Texas. That's not panic porn: That's "pay attention to these numbers."

 

Ventilator usage is down everywhere because we are much better at treating this with other modalities. I don't see that as a limiting resource and don't really track it. 

 

And I agree about that site. I wish every state had that exact chart. 

Edited June 19, 2020 by shoshin

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

ICU covid usage went up by 130 beds in 4 days. There is a total operational capacity of 200 ICU beds free and 450 nonoperational more across the entirety of Texas. That's not panic porn: That's "pay attention to these numbers."

 

Ventilator usage is down everywhere because we are much better at treating this with other modalities. I don't see that as a limiting resource and don't really track it. 

I would LOVE to hear you explain this.

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

ICU covid usage went up by 130 beds in 4 days. There is a total operational capacity of 200 ICU beds free and 450 nonoperational more across the entirety of Texas. That's not panic porn: That's "pay attention to these numbers."

 

Ventilator usage is down everywhere because we are much better at treating this with other modalities. I don't see that as a limiting resource and don't really track it. 

 

And I agree about that site. I wish every state had that exact chart. 

So isn’t this exactly why the President and his task force built so many thousands of ventilators? The point was to be able to move them where they are needed....no? 

[shoshin]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I would LOVE to hear you explain this.

 

Do you follow the progress in medical treatments for Covid? If you don't you can find plenty of sources. I'm not going to google a ton of articles on point for you. Pretty basic knowledge at this point that we've gotten a lot better at treating a novel disease over the 6 months we've been treating it. The early ventilator panic was based on a lack of understanding that more critical patients needed more oxygen than just plain inhalation support.