SoCal Deek Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Oh no no no. If there was anyone other than Trump they would have these numbers magically reduced. People don’t understand that one of the main reasons we have more cases (other than the likely reason that we test more) is that because of the freedoms we have. People are suspicious of government. They don’t like to be told what to do. A mandatory federal mask order would have done virtually nothing. Well it would have prompted people to call Trump a dictator for circumventing States Rights. ? And all of this is so they can win an election in November turn the entire country into one massive federal program controlled from the seat of power in Washington DC. The sad part is that the foolish democratic voters are gullible enough to believe that when the takeover is complete and the power is permanently grabbed, that these federal power brokers are going to give a rats butt about some little guy with his appeal for ‘social justice’ in some far off District somewhere. They’re not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Gary M said: So what! Green is recovered (91.17%), orange is fatality (8.83%) Who cares if a pandemic is ravishing the country! Who gives a sh it! 29 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Welp. Here is another link for this years celebration, including Sharptons speech https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/rev-al-sharpton-challenges-trump-to-deal-with-racism-juneteenth-organizers-say-sharpton-got-death/article_7ac8f8a8-dde1-5ddf-b1fa-3b56c6c70b50.html Masks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris farley said: So never mind the HUGE Junteenth celebration in Tulsa the day before the trump rally. https://www.tulsajuneteenth.org/ I don't see a mask in the place Another example of the Left never condemning flagrant negligence of those on their side. Hundreds of thousands of maskless protesters is okay to them. But if Trump not wearing one, who is monitored constantly, is the one being irresponsible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who cares if a pandemic is ravishing the country! The virus is not ravaging the country, the democrats and marxists are. ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris farley said: 501 1 hour ago, Chris farley said: US sets another daily record low for covid deaths. where did you get those numbers ? Need to be correct, worldometers has 890 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ 39 minutes ago, Gary M said: So what! Green is recovered (91.17%), orange is fatality (8.83%) Thing to remember there is that number is based on cases with outcomes....how "outcome" is determined i am not sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Masks You might want to take a closer look at your own photo. You can see quite a number of people with their faces uncovered. You would think it would be impossible, from a statistical probability perspective, for you to be wrong as often as you are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: You might want to take a closer look at your own photo. You can see quite a number of people with their faces uncovered. And that's bad, right? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 The media is unglued about Trumps rally, where attendees temperatures were taken, provided hand sanitizer and masks. That's where their crowd spreading covid concerns begin and end. Crickets on unprotected protesters rioters and looters, herding together like cattle spreading covid. Same with their destruction, not a peep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: And that's bad, right? Right? YOU posted a photo to show that protesters wear masks. The problem is that the photo you used showed quite a number of protesters without masks. My point wasn't about whether or not wearing masks is good. My point was that you are an idiot. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Honest question, what would Obama, Clinton, Biden or other Dem done differently? Would they have stopped travel from China and other places? Doubtful. Would they have magically produced more tests, vaccines, masks? Remember, after the swine flu, the CDC asked that administration to produce more masks and ventilators and was told, "we're good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris farley said: So never mind the HUGE Junteenth celebration in Tulsa the day before the trump rally. https://www.tulsajuneteenth.org/ I don't see a mask in the place You didn't look at the close ups. Plenty of photos of people in masks. Definitely not everyone. But look at the crowd: Not that many people and outdoors. Definitely didn't help. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Yesterday, Wednesday, saw two states top triple digit Covid deaths (CA and TX). Over half the country was in single digits or zero. Having read through the last couple of pages before posting my daily report it seems many if not most of you are desperately trying to make this political but I’m hard pressed to find the common threads. For example Minnesota and DC, the sites of so much protesting a month ago have seen no rise in deaths. Oklahoma, the site of the Trump rally had a grand total of THREE deaths yesterday. Florida still has lots of new cases but a very low fatality rate. And California which has a huge population and a 100% democratic leadership now leads in fatalities but is not even in the same universe as the NY metro area. And finally....NY which has opened up again is seeing record low fatalities. People! This is a virus. It’s doing what viruses do. It’s moving into areas that haven’t seen infections until now, but for some reason is WAY LESS fatal. So wait, the virus doesn't play politics? Keep an eye on NJ. Its death rate has been very high lately. I don't have the time or energy to unpack why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Big Blitz said: More on why 15-20% infected to get to herd immunity and why the pandemic is over: It's not over until November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Honest question, what would Obama, Clinton, Biden or other Dem done differently? Initially, not likely. It was an unknown virus. Hard to say if having better plans in place would have been more helpful. Quote Would they have stopped travel from China and other places? Doubtful. Agreed. Quote Would they have magically produced more tests, vaccines, masks? Remember, after the swine flu, the CDC asked that administration to produce more masks and ventilators and was told, "we're good" The real question to ask is whether a national strategy (not as is this is often conflated, a national one-size-fits-all approach) would have made a difference. Looking across Europe, it sure seems like it. Ask yourself: Could the places that didn't get hit hard initially have been spared this rise through better communication, a unifying message from leaders on what practices to keep up? It sure seems like it. This Florida hosp trend in the last week would seem to have been avoidable: Edited July 9, 2020 by shoshin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Did NJ do some numbers adjustment yesterday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Gary M said: The virus is not ravaging the country, the democrats and marxists are. ? you don't even know what a Marxist is its the new alt right phrase of the week 29 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Honest question, what would Obama, Clinton, Biden or other Dem done differently? Would they have stopped travel from China and other places? Doubtful. Would they have magically produced more tests, vaccines, masks? Remember, after the swine flu, the CDC asked that administration to produce more masks and ventilators and was told, "we're good" they wouldn't have slowed down testing to improve potential election results ...like Trump did . not only did he do this but he literally got in front of a live audience and admitted it... but probably not much else. a smart president would have enabled UBI for 3-4 months, not send out 1 measly 1200 check while supplying billions and billions to businesses who probably didn't even need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Did NJ do some numbers adjustment yesterday? NJ has been a little higher for a few days and generally not fallen as fast as NY. PA is like this too...off its high but also still maintaining its deaths count a little more stubbornly. In PA, a lot of the new cases have been in western PA (Pittsburg not Philly)--not sure where the deaths have been happening. 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Who cares if a pandemic is ravishing the country! There's a virus that ravishes people? Sign me up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Did NJ do some numbers adjustment yesterday? Very likely this is the case. Plus New Jersey is another state that has been terrible at protecting their seniors. Edited July 9, 2020 by Magox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Did NJ do some numbers adjustment yesterday? Friggin red states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: you don't even know what a Marxist is https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/07/08/rep-ilhan-omar-wants-to-dismantle-economic-oppression/#4983bca41960 “As long as our economy and political systems prioritize profit without considering who is profiting, who is being shut out, we will perpetuate this inequality,” Omar said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 NYT: Nope they are a MAJOR source, we need to close them for a year at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Any insight into Florida's deaths spike today Magox? I would expect a climb up not a leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 The first page is what people feared about the lock down... that people put off surgeries, medial care, etc and now are sicker because of that. (I posted the first interaction some pages back.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, B-Man said: NYT: Nope they are a MAJOR source, we need to close them for a year at least. And of the 650 how many led to hospitalization and/or death? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Did NJ do some numbers adjustment yesterday? And yet I've seen some say NJ "handled this right." I can tell you personally, they have not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: you don't even know what a Marxist is its the new alt right phrase of the week they wouldn't have slowed down testing to improve potential election results ...like Trump did . not only did he do this but he literally got in front of a live audience and admitted it... but probably not much else. a smart president would have enabled UBI for 3-4 months, not send out 1 measly 1200 check while supplying billions and billions to businesses who probably didn't even need it. Marxist=Communist no? Or has that been re branded? Social Democrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dante Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gary M said: And of the 650 how many led to hospitalization and/or death? .2% probably. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! But please be safe and take the mask OFF because wearing it drops your oxygen intake level well below OSHA's acceptable level! Not good especially when running in the summer heat. Edited July 9, 2020 by Dante 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, shoshin said: Any insight into Florida's deaths spike today Magox? I would expect a climb up not a leap. 85 deaths? Possibly the elderly? (his chart is interesting... the google chart in the first tweet is his I "think") Edited July 9, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Schumer yesterday in Buffalo touting PPP, from Buffalo News: No mask nor social distancing as he breathes openly. Chuck the total hypocrite. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: 85 deaths? Possibly the elderly? (his chart is interesting... the google chart in the first tweet is his I "think") I see the total for today as 119--that's a big jump for FL. I just wondered if it was some numbers dump or really the new number. AZ is higher today too so maybe it's just the high cases starting to make their way through the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: I see the total for today as 119--that's a big jump for FL. I just wondered if it was some numbers dump or really the new number. AZ is higher today too so maybe it's just the high cases starting to make their way through the process. Or government employees are finally getting back to work after the holiday, will have to check the data in two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taraka Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: The media is unglued about Trumps rally, where attendees temperatures were taken, provided hand sanitizer and masks. That's where their crowd spreading covid concerns begin and end. Crickets on unprotected protesters rioters and looters, herding together like cattle spreading covid. Same with their destruction, not a peep. the protests may well have contributed to covid 19 infections but again they were not preplanned indoor events by a POTUS. There was no requirement to social distance nor even wear a mask. No cause for concern though. How many of his staff got sick? Hmm . But no one else could have yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I’m so over this pandemic. The constant media narrative is beyond obnoxious and fear-mongering. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 They really need to start racking up the dead people down south to keep this going. We need 25k fresh ones by the end of July. Anything less is a failure at this point. On a serious note - we made it to 999 pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, shoshin said: I see the total for today as 119--that's a big jump for FL. I just wondered if it was some numbers dump or really the new number. AZ is higher today too so maybe it's just the high cases starting to make their way through the process. He backed out some deaths leaving 85. Maybe classification or cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He backed out some deaths leaving 85. Maybe classification or cause? He didn't back them out. He was just classifying 35 out of 120 as having come from LTC facilities and the rest from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: He didn't back them out. He was just classifying 35 out of 120 as having come from LTC facilities and the rest from elsewhere. Ah ok, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Crayola64 said: I’m so over this pandemic. The constant media narrative is beyond obnoxious and fear-mongering. This could go on for another 12 to 18 months If that hasn't sunk in for everyone I dont know what to tell you. And all that this will mean for society, the economy, and education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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