The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Buffalo_Gal]

Sure, why not?
 

 

[plenzmd1]

6 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I just got here..................three straight pages of actual discussion................It is refreshing............and informative..........than

 

 

 

 

it was nice, and informative

6 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Still nothing meaningful to show for the 3.5 years of his presidency, and still too many campaign hoaxes.  I’m sorry that you support a loser.  I wish it was different, but it’s not.  I like winners. 

as said, no  need to devolve into this, this is a COVID thread..plenty of places to place our anti Trump messages..notice i said OUR!

6 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Says the guy on a Bills message board. ?

Double middle finger emoji!

3 hours ago, shoshin said:

 

It's not "skewing." NYC is America just like Milan is Italy. 

 

We've come so far since the way we were together on 9-11, when no American would have thought, "Those 3000 people don't statistically count because they are downstate." 

 

 

as you said later, problem is people in leadership are basing their   decisions  on "national data"..we are absolutly  all Americans. we need to do what we can to help and curtail the virus in NYC, just may be different than the rest of the country

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Dude , image who i follow on twitterr and what shows up in my timeline...not pretty right now as i push this very idea.

Edited May 9, 2020 by plenzmd1

[fansince88]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

What movie was this from?

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Double middle finger emoji!

 

I was waiting for someone to respond in this fashion to that post.  And I'm not surprised it was you.  LOL  

[Deranged Rhino]

38 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

What movie was this from?

John Carpenter’s “They Live”. The movie with the best/most pointless fistfight in cinematic history.  

[fansince88]

30 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

John Carpenter’s “They Live”. The movie with the best/most pointless fistfight in cinematic history.  

Yes. With Rodney Piper. That was horrible.

[njbuff]

35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

John Carpenter’s “They Live”. The movie with the best/most pointless fistfight in cinematic history.  

 

RIP Hot Rod.

 

He was one of the greats.

[daz28]

3 hours ago, dhg said:

That's an amazing statistic 

Yeah, you'd almost think some countries had a better response than others.

[The Guy In Pants]

14 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Yeah, you'd almost think some countries had a better response than others.

Possibly so or at least it could appear that way; but with any statistic there are countless variables that may or may apply.

 

Things such as larger populations, higher population density, underlying health issues of the areas of breakouts, frequency of international travel etc. 

 

[shoshin]

This is the google project. Doing lots of testing and cost is free if you’re symptom free. 
 

http://projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What they don't mention is that Texas reported a massive increase in testing in the 2 days they are referencing (almost double)..... That means this likely isn't a spike in cases, but just a spike in cases being identified. That's a good thing.

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What they don't mention is that Texas reported a massive increase in testing in the 2 days they are referencing (almost double)..... That means this likely isn't a spike in cases, but just a spike in cases being identified. That's a good thing.

 

 

Good call ; I’ve noticed these misleading headlines in newspapers and on newspaper and tv news websites. It’s all part of the narrative. Testing ( the media’s new reason for prolonging lockdowns) has ramped up quite a bit lately and is clearly driving new data. Most areas have plenty of tests now even for asymptomatic individuals, but you wouldn’t know it by following the LSM. That’s by design, of course. Even with the ramped up testing, it’s going to be difficult to meet Cuomo’s onerous benchmarks in NY. The media isn’t helping that either. Erie county is actually begging for people to get tested. We are about 300 people per day short of hitting Cuomo’s marks. Antibody testing isn’t even part of his formula. The local news websites headlines are all about where to get an antibody test, and proclaiming they are now available. It requires some digging to find info on getting a PCR test , and that’s the test that Erie County needs more people to go and get if they are to reopen the County. The media is once again complicit in this. 

[Hedge]

 

 

[Hedge]

 

 

[meazza]

2https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.27.20081893v1?fbclid=IwAR0CJ_E7H7AMA-6-AfdHiIDlEQquczQEDGjXBrLJBYhMsu_nMI4FVvHU9Jc

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As severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) spreads, the susceptible subpopulation is depleted causing the rate at which new cases occur to decline. Variation in individual susceptibility or exposure to infection exacerbates this effect. Individuals that are frailer, and therefore more susceptible or more exposed, have higher probabilities of being infected, depleting the susceptible subpopulation of those who are at higher risk of infection, and thus intensifying the deceleration in occurrence of new cases. Eventually, susceptible numbers become low enough to prevent epidemic growth or, in other words, herd immunity is attained. Although estimates vary, it is currently believed that herd immunity to SARS-CoV-2 requires 60-70% of the population to be immune. Here we show that variation in susceptibility or exposure to infection can reduce these estimates. Achieving accurate estimates of heterogeneity for SARS-CoV-2 is therefore of paramount importance in controlling the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

 

We're seeing this in Montreal where areas that were hit are no longer getting hit hard again.  

 

@Hapless Bills Fan

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by meazza

[SoCal Deek]

You may recall how I posted that the Covid story had played itself out. I woke up this morning to find it was the twelfth thread down the list. So I guess I’m posting here to give it a little bump. How’s that for irony?

 

This morning the death count was below 10 in something like 20 states, with half of those having none at all. (Thank goodness.)

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

You may recall how I posted that the Covid story had played itself out. I woke up this morning to find it was the twelfth thread down the list. So I guess I’m posting here to give it a little bump. How’s that for irony?

 

This morning the death count was below 10 in something like 20 states, with half of those having none at all. (Thank goodness.)

 

The cure has always been worse than the disease.

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

You may recall how I posted that the Covid story had played itself out. I woke up this morning to find it was the twelfth thread down the list. So I guess I’m posting here to give it a little bump. How’s that for irony?

 

This morning the death count was below 10 in something like 20 states, with half of those having none at all. (Thank goodness.)

Thank you Donald Trump!!

 

Hey if they can be dummies for laying all the blame at his feet I can be a dummy and give him credit right?  

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

The cure has always been worse than the disease.

The really odd part is that now that we actually know something about how and who this virus attacks and is especially dangerous to, we’re hearing virtually NOTHING from anyone in control. It’s as if they’re all doing a collective ‘my bad’ in hopes that the general public will forget about it while planting their tomatoes.

[plenzmd1]

10 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Good call ; I’ve noticed these misleading headlines in newspapers and on newspaper and tv news websites. It’s all part of the narrative. Testing ( the media’s new reason for prolonging lockdowns) has ramped up quite a bit lately and is clearly driving new data. Most areas have plenty of tests now even for asymptomatic individuals, but you wouldn’t know it by following the LSM. 

Name calling like this just hurts the cause..it hurts Trump too. 

11 hours ago, shoshin said:

This is the google project. Doing lots of testing and cost is free if you’re symptom free. 
 

http://projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19

 

 

signed up, doing it tomorrow. Not looking to get that swap shoved halfway down my throat via my nasal cavity, but i will do for love of country!

[Reality Check]

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

The really odd part is that now that we actually know something about how and who this virus attacks and is especially dangerous to, we’re hearing virtually NOTHING from anyone in control. It’s as if they’re all doing a collective ‘my bad’ in hopes that the general public will forget about it while planting their tomatoes.

The point of the exercise is that trillions of digital dollars are flowing into coffers that were otherwise on the verge of bankruptcy before the scamdemic.

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

Name calling like this just hurts the cause..it hurts Trump too. 

signed up, doing it tomorrow. Not looking to get that swap shoved halfway down my throat via my nasal cavity, but i will do for love of country!

Reminds me of the movie Deep Throat. Better you than me. Good luck.

[Tiberius]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Barack Obama harshly criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic as an “absolute chaotic disaster” during a conversation with ex-members of his administration, according to a recording obtained by Yahoo News.

Obama also reacted to the Justice Department dropping its criminal case against Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, saying he worried that the “basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.”

More than 78,400 people with COVID-19 have died in the United States and more than 1.3 million people have tested positive, according to the latest estimates from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

https://apnews.com/99b2c99f4ba4e480c0066d59cf4dd952

Obama! A great two term President 

[Reality Check]

Funny how our entire country can be economically smashed based on anecdotal evidence, but anecdotal evidence isn't good enough to reopen the economy.

[fansince88]

Just now, Reality Check said:

Funny how our entire country can be economically smashed based on anecdotal evidence, but anecdotal evidence isn't good enough to reopen the economy.

Agree 100%

[B-Man]

Bad State Decisions about Nursing Homes Are Heavily Driving the Coronavirus Outbreak

by Jim Geraghty

 

Original Article

 

 

Coronavirus outbreaks in nursing homes have been particularly deadly in California, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. You could make a strong argument that the country’s deadly coronavirus problem is largely a nursing home problem, dangerous everywhere but far more prevalent in a half-dozen or so of the country’s more heavily and densely populated states.

 

What’s more, many of these states enacted coronavirus response policies that likely put nursing and assisted-living home residents at higher risk for infection. 

 

Notice the California policy described by the San Jose Mercury News:

Even as senior care centers have been particularly hard hit by the coronavirus — with patient and staff deaths accounting for nearly 40 percent of all COVID-19 deaths across California — the state is calling on assisted living facilities to house infected patients in exchange for money.

 

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...terribly deflating news for some....SMH...........

Georgia reports lowest number of COVID patients in a month

By Nick Givas | Fox News

 

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp announced Saturday that the state had the lowest number of hospitalized coronavirus patients it has seen in just over a month.

"Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th," Kemp tweeted.

 

"Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available). We will win this fight together!" he added.

 

Kemp moved forward with his plan to reopen the state late last month, despite initial opposition from President Trump.

 

"Now, with favorable data and approval from state health officials, we are taking another measured step forward by opening shuttered businesses for limited operations. I know these hardworking Georgians will prioritize the safety of their employees and customers," Kemp previously tweeted. "Together, we will weather this storm and emerge stronger than ever."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-reports-lowest-number-covid-patients-in-a-month

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Barack Obama harshly criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic as an “absolute chaotic disaster” during a conversation with ex-members of his administration, according to a recording obtained by Yahoo News.

Obama also reacted to the Justice Department dropping its criminal case against Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, saying he worried that the “basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.”

More than 78,400 people with COVID-19 have died in the United States and more than 1.3 million people have tested positive, according to the latest estimates from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

https://apnews.com/99b2c99f4ba4e480c0066d59cf4dd952

Obama! A great two term President 

HAHA Gator, forever the sucker. Obama was afraid to come out and say what he did in public. He instead had a private phone call leaked. Obviously the handling hasn't been an "absolute chaotic disaster" unless you want to address the stupid governors like Whitman, Newsome, Cuomo and Wolf. On top of that Obama stated that Flynn was charged with perjury, which in itself is a lie. You could fvck up a copy/paste. 

[daz28]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

HAHA Gator, forever the sucker. Obama was afraid to come out and say what he did in public. He instead had a private phone call leaked. Obviously the handling hasn't been an "absolute chaotic disaster" unless you want to address the stupid governors like Whitman, Newsome, Cuomo and Wolf. On top of that Obama stated that Flynn was charged with perjury, which in itself is a lie. You could fvck up a copy/paste. 

Isn't leaving everything up to the governors kind of the definition of chaotic disaster if it goes horribly wrong?

[daz28]

Beginning on Sunday, each household in Belgium will be allowed to host up to four other people — preferably all within the same family — as long as social distancing is maintained.

 

 

Does anyone think Americans have the patience for this kind of approach? 

 

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Isn't leaving everything up to the governors kind of the definition of chaotic disaster if it goes horribly wrong?

 

..potentially but they are much closer to their state's heartbeat versus the Feds.....the Feds' guidelines are under attack solely because of TDS, shocking right?......Covid-19 is baptism by fire at all levels with an event never seen except for perhaps 1917.....at the same time, it gives you a synopsis of elected officials and their ability in TRUE crisis management.....sad part is that those who fail will still be re-elected because it eliminates any thought process for the fickle segment in the electorate ......think Schifty does NOT get re-elected in a landslide as an example of just "pull the lever"?.....Strom Thurmond?...Jesse Helms?....Fritz Hollings?...Bob Byrd?...talk about "career politicians"...SMH.....

[B-Man]

17 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...terribly deflating news for some....SMH...........

Georgia reports lowest number of COVID patients in a month

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-reports-lowest-number-covid-patients-in-a-month

 

 

 

THE MEDIA’S PREDICTIONS HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY ONE-SIDED AND BAD.

 

 

 

 

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[daz28]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..potentially but they are much closer to their state's heartbeat versus the Feds.....

I agree with this, but Trump did come out, and say he was the boss.  

[B-Man]

 

Birx said ‘there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust’ in a White House coronavirus task force meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

[Magox]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Birx said ‘there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust’ in a White House coronavirus task force meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very interesting.   Now it quotes anonymous sources and we know that the media is often times full of it when they quote these supposed sources with that said this was interesting from that article:

 

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The Post reported that Birx and others feared that the CDC's statistics on mortality rate and case counts were inflated by up to 25%.

Birx later told The Post in a statement that "mortality is slowly declining each day."

 

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According to the article she was upset with the CDC.   
 

Birx our of the entire health team is the one I trust the most.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

38 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

THE MEDIA’S PREDICTIONS HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY ONE-SIDED AND BAD.

 

 

 

 

Related:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The media is STILL the enemy of the people.

 

With each passing day my confidence in this FACT grows.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Birx said ‘there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust’ in a White House coronavirus task force meeting.

 

Huh.

[daz28]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Huh.

Exactly, and we'll never know.  I barely trust the government any more than the media, because they'll just deny it ever happened.  We have every right to know why we should/should not trust the CDC.  We pay for it.  It belongs to us.  I hate the notion that we always have to be protected from ourselves.  

[Cinga]

Facebook is flagging this, calling the whole thing false. Can someone pick even a part of it that isn't true?

[Keukasmallies]

And former President Obama chimes in with his constructive criticism of the current adminnistrations pandemic efforts:

 

https://deadline.com/2020/05/obama-calls-trump-administrations-response-to-coronavirus-an-absolute-chaotic-disaster-1202930674/

 

I wonder if his keen analysis of the situation grew out of his smooth implementation of Obamacare?

[daz28]

2 minutes ago, Cinga said:

Facebook is flagging this, calling the whole thing false. Can someone pick even a part of it that isn't true?

I've taken infection control, and worn tons of masks.  Most of it is nonsense or nonsensical.  You should learn how to use a mask properly.  Fresh air is good for you??