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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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4 minutes ago, njbuff said:

People continue to pack into small places out here on Long Island.

 

I have seriously misjudged the smarts of the people out here.

 

Common sense does not apply. 

 

I feel like I am the only one self quarantining. ?

That’s disappointing! ?

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24 minutes ago, njbuff said:

People continue to pack into small places out here on Long Island.

 

I have seriously misjudged the smarts of the people out here.

 

Common sense does not apply. 

 

I feel like I am the only one self quarantining. ?

 

Stay safe and enjoy the view - it sounds like you've got a ringside seat for Darwin in action. 

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27 minutes ago, njbuff said:

People continue to pack into small places out here on Long Island.

 

I have seriously misjudged the smarts of the people out here.

 

Common sense does not apply. 

 

I feel like I am the only one self quarantining. ?

I'm the only one too, also i'm the hated republican swarmed by a state full of democrats.

There's actually more people than usual out and they keep throwing their masks on my property, lol.

Used to be beer cans, lottery tickets and cigs.

We're all doomed.

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1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

One of the things business owners got wrong was the idea that if you make the workplace more like a cool place to hang out, people will love to work there. Give them open work spaces, a gym downstairs, a couple of baristas, maybe free parking...even a place to nap.

 

It worked at first because it was cool and different. Then workers realized the idea was to keep them at work.

 

But after working many years as a regional sales director with staffs of anywhere from 10-20 people, I realized what I believe is one of the most important keys to having happy, productive workers: the collective understanding that their job should not be the single most important thing in their lives.

 

I believed if you could convince employees that you want their life outside work -- their hobbies, past times, family, church, community -- to be the priority, they would be more committed and productive. No, we don't want you working more than 40 hours a week, and weekend work was avoided...UNLESS we had a rush of business and everyone understood we all had to peddle a bit faster for a couple of weeks. Yes, we want you coaching your kids baseball team or being a deacon at your church or take your child's class on a field trip.

 

Turns out, at least for me and my company, it works wonders. In 15 years, one person quit to get a big payday. Everyone else is still here since the start.

 

Not bragging. Just making a point. Work is important, but when we make people feel like it MUST be the most important thing in their world, we're not helping anyone.

 

This might scare you, but You are 100% correct. ?

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14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...do what you can and think will protect yourself and your family friend......we have an ever pontificating VP ####### in our office who shows up in the lunch room with his rants about COVID-19 being "a political year hoax......"we're WELL below annual flu related deaths...yada...yada...".....and another junior VP calling Project Managers wusses because they are pressured by spouses and children to work remotely....so I convened a meeting with my two other co-execs who run the company and merely said, "fix this or I will"......They all met today and excluded me.....perfectly fine because I'm in no mood to takes hostages......

 

If they get this stupid virus, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

4 minutes ago, Albwan said:

I'm the only one too, also i'm the hated republican swarmed by a state full of democrats.

There's actually more people than usual out and they keep throwing their masks on my property, lol.

Used to be beer cans, lottery tickets and cigs.

We're all doomed.

 

I am surprised you didn't mention used rubbers in there. ?

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11 minutes ago, shepherdog1960 said:

naw and called out are words not often heard from my east indian colleagues.  but more to the point, Obama knew this was coming.  Why didn't rump?

 

Your "colleagues."  LOL!

 

And if Obama saw this coming, why not restock the supplies that were used in 2009?  Or force/tell Cuomo in 2015 to buy ventilators?  Or ease FDA regulations that slowed testing?  Or not drive medicine and medical devices to China thanks to Obamacare?

 

Ebola?  Pshaw.  Don't make me laugh.

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4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Your "colleagues."  LOL!

 

And if Obama saw this coming, why not restock the supplies that were used in 2009?  Or force/tell Cuomo in 2015 to buy ventilators?  Or ease FDA regulations that slowed testing?  Or not drive medicine and medical devices to China thanks to Obamacare?

yes, my colleagues many of whom are highly respected and accomplished.  there's no if.  he said this would happen in 5 or 10 years.  you can get into the weeds on policy positions but i won't go there because you will misrepresent and distort them as the chorus always does.  your intellect seems better suited for propaganda than medicine

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3 minutes ago, shepherdog1960 said:

yes, my colleagues many of whom are highly respected and accomplished.  there's no if.  he said this would happen in 5 or 10 years.  you can get into the weeds on policy positions but i won't go there because you will misrepresent and distort them as the chorus always does.  your intellect seems better suited for propaganda than medicine

 

No you won't go there because your can't.  But nice try skippy. 

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2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

No you won't go there because your can't.  But nice try skippy. 

skippy...another common word from FMG's

so why did obama know and rump didn't.  effective debate concentrates on a single issue.

 

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

So, it's the political hack from under the shadow of Bristol Speedway back to write in his e.e. cummings style. 

yep,  i intended on driving by but you wrecks are just too much guilty pleasure.

why did obama know and trump didn't?

 

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Another one who joined a few hours ago and immediately headed down to PPP. <_< Oh goodie.

 Sock puppet or troll? You make the call!

It's @birdog1960. He was embarrassingly wrong on almost everything he ever posted. Hence his reference to the Shah's spleen earlier. Basically Gary with a medical degree.

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11 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You must love it when the second man in at a hockey fight gets a game misconduct. The man is working day and night to help America get through this and what he faces every day from the media and some local officials is a steaming load of crap! I’m going to cut him slack when exhaustion forces him to punch back a bit. I’m actually shocked at how quickly he regains his composure and immediately answers the next question with a smile on his face. I’d tell the media pool to go f$&k themselves!

 

Ummmm... except Trump has ALWAYS complained, criticized and blamed.

 

ALWAYS.

 

Even before he was President.

 

It's his nature.

 

So spare everyone the asinine notion that Trump is exhausted, so he's excused. 

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22 minutes ago, LB3 said:

It's @birdog1960. He was embarrassingly wrong on almost everything he ever posted. Hence his reference to the Shah's spleen earlier. Basically Gary with a medical degree.

 

Yeah, the Shah thing (completely out of left field) and "1960" were dead giveaways.  I thought he would have been too embarrassed to show his face here again, but then I realized it was Tom who destroyed him and he's gone.

 

And it's amazing that Barry couldn't predict Senile Joe would be the Dem nominee and endorse him back when he decided to run, but could predict this.  And did nothing about it.  Which makes him complicit.

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32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Another one who joined a few hours ago and immediately headed down to PPP. <_< Oh goodie.

 Sock puppet or troll? You make the call!

 

As was already pointed out, he was a longtime poster here.  Very left leaning and often obnoxious.

 

Don't know if he was banned or just left to avoid the ridicule of having demonstrated his medical prowess by comparing the safety of 21st century orthopedic surgery to late '70's emergency spleen operations.  Thought it was just embarrassment, but maybe he was banned for something considering he chose a new handle.

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48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Another one who joined a few hours ago and immediately headed down to PPP. <_< Oh goodie.

 Sock puppet or troll? You make the call!

The other dead giveaway that it’s birddog aside from his user name is that Birddog never capitalizes the first word of a sentence.

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51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Another one who joined a few hours ago and immediately headed down to PPP. <_< Oh goodie.

 Sock puppet or troll? You make the call!

 

Get used to it. An apparent effect of sheltering in place is a spike in troll activity on boards like this one, as if we don't have enough of that already. I just wish people would realize that replying to them brings them down to the same level of intellect. 

(not referring to your post, btw)

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8 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I hear you, and truth be told, I think TBF is a bit overwrought on this issue.  I think he's a victim of too much data, too much time at the computer, too much time listening to all the gloom and doom.  Dr. Oz was on tv today and referred to the politicization of the virus as a 'perversion of medicine'.   I think that is an excellent way to put it.  

 

All I'm trying to get to is how someone like TBF gets where he is, and how he rationalizes the erroneous reporting over a 36 month period.  I know how I feel, how many of us here feel about media reports.  I had a heated discussion with an old friend who is a journalist a couple years ago--he said, basically, that fact checking at the major media outlets is so stringent that it would be virtually impossible for someone to do agenda-based reporting and cite 'anonymous sources' for political gain.  How on earth does someone who can chew gum, drive a car and change the radio station get to the point where in essence he is advocating "BELIEVE ALL"?  It's crazy and dangerous , and while we know that...Transpy seems to hang his hat on the media as infalliable  and beyond reproach.  Me?  I think a guy like Sean Hannity, a guy like Chris Hayes and a guy like Rachel Maddow exist in media outlets, write 'fact-checked' stories and everything else such as what is cited by TBF.

 

That begs the questions asked.  I'd like one response on that issue other than the old fallback "Hooo-ha dude you're crazy!", which is just another way of saying "BELIEVE ALL".  

 

See, I'm not a blind homer, I'm just a guy trying to navigate all that  noise. 

 

Btw that heart punch is graphic! 

 

 

I'm not ignoring your other post, but I will only minimally respond to it because frankly, despite what you seem to believe, I am generally using this time to step away from the Internet and TBD in general to do other more productive things.

 

Your question to me is a trap based on a false premise... actually a fallacy commonly used here in PPP. That's why I won't engage you thoroughly. But I will respond so you at least understand why I often just don't respond to posters.

 

Even if you still think I'm an idiot or a jerk, at least it might help you understand me a bit more.

 

I trust journalists more than I trust random Twitter guy. I'm not saying they're never wrong, but knowing a couple journalists as you do, I view the safeguard of journalistic "sourcing" as more credible than random Twitter guy who says whatever he wants and has no guardrails.

 

Inevitability someone here (I have a good idea on who those posters will be) will cherry pick certain stories by certified journalists from mainstream media as proof they're not to be trusted. Arguing with someone latching on to those cherry picked stories that end up being a very tiny percent of the slew of other true, well-sourced stories is pretty clearly a tried and true strategy on this forum, but in the end it really just becomes a straw man argument. 

 

The straw man fallacy actually seems to be the go-to over here. And it's the weasley way out of a discussion. And it's why I generally avoid prolonged discussion in this forum and why I am not directly answering your post, even though I just basically did, at least indirectly. :beer:

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Former poster called Birdog1960 from Bristol, VA area who's been away for a couple years or so. 


 

1 hour ago, LB3 said:

It's @birdog1960. He was embarrassingly wrong on almost everything he ever posted. Hence his reference to the Shah's spleen earlier. Basically Gary with a medical degree.


 

 

34 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, the Shah thing (completely out of left field) and "1960" were dead giveaways.  I thought he would have been too embarrassed to show his face here again, but then I realized it was Tom who destroyed him and he's gone.

 

And it's amazing that Barry couldn't predict Senile Joe would be the Dem nominee and endorse him back when he decided to run, but could predict this.  And did nothing about it.  Which makes him complicit.

 

30 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

As was already pointed out, he was a longtime poster here.  Very left leaning and often obnoxious.

 

Don't know if he was banned or just left to avoid the ridicule of having demonstrated his medical prowess by comparing the safety of 21st century orthopedic surgery to late '70's emergency spleen operations.  Thought it was just embarrassment, but maybe he was banned for something considering he chose a new handle.

 

22 minutes ago, Magox said:

The other dead giveaway that it’s birddog aside from his user name is that Birddog never capitalizes the first word of a sentence.


Wow, he must have been something. I am truly amazed you all can remember banned members.  

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


 


 

 

 

 


Wow, he must have been something. I am truly amazed you all can remember banned members.  

 

Ya that's amazing. I wouldn't remember all of that. Poor memory for me.  That's pretty cool.  

 

Kind of like being here. Like seeing everyone. Plus support President Trump lots more. Can learn all the info people say (and truth) but poorly telling others.  Even more so in person.Learned lots from people in PPP. Plus a good time here with everyone lol. 

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19 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

 

I trust journalists more than I trust random Twitter guy. I'm not saying they're never wrong, but knowing a couple journalists as you do, I view the safeguard of journalistic "sourcing" as more credible than random Twitter guy who says whatever he wants and has no guardrails.

 

 

 

Journalists are like politicians.  The more local their positions are, the more credible they are.  Those that ascend to positions in the greater public eye and greater power tend to be the most biased, most untrustworthy and dishonest.    The bigger the story, the more value there is in looking below the surface of reports from the big outlets. 

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12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


 


 

 

 

 


Wow, he must have been something. I am truly amazed you all can remember banned members.  

Some posters would rather burn out than fade away. ?‍♂️

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26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Wow, he must have been something. I am truly amazed you all can remember banned members.  

 

You remember the loudmouth idiots who get chased away.  The "pseudo doc" and "FMG" stuff was par for the course for him.  Not that he was anything special as a primary care doc.

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