Bills at Browns Post Game Post Mortem

[Seven-N-Nine]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Another declarative statement I see.  That’s nice.

 

McD should sit down with Daboll tonight and make sure Singletary gets 20 touches a game minimum.

 

 

Yes, I'm declaring McDermott is very unlikely to change his talent evaluation process and game managment style significantly enough to make an impact. He will most likely be fired as the Bills coach never having changed much at all, still believing his way is the right way.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Another declarative statement I see.  That’s nice.

 

McD should sit down with Daboll tonight and make sure Singletary gets 20 touches a game minimum.

 

 

 

Exactly right.  Hell on one play they pitched the damn ball to Gore on a sweep.  What the hell is that?  It's like putting in a tackle eligible player and calling his number on a deep throw.  It makes no sense.

 

My problem with today is I couldn't for the life of me figure out  what Daboll was trying to do offensively.  Now to be fair part of this was due to a D which allowed Cleveland to many long drives and couldn't get off the field.  There were some LONG stretches in the 1st half between possessions for our offense.  It's hard to get into any kind of rhythm under these circumstances.  But 41 attempted passes and less then 15 called running plays seemed unbalanced in a close, one score game. 

 

 

 

 

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Seven-N-Nine said:

Yes, I'm declaring McDermott is very unlikely to change his talent evaluation process and game managment style significantly enough to make an impact. He will most likely be fired as the Bills coach never having changed much at all, still believing his way is the right way.

That’s nice

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Exactly right.  Hell on one play they pitched the damn ball to Gore on a sweep.  What the hell is that?  It's like putting in a tackle eligible player and calling his number on a deep throw.  It makes no sense.

 

My problem with today is I couldn't for the life of me figure out  what Daboll was trying to do offensively.  Now to be fair part of this was due to a D which allowed Cleveland to many long drives and couldn't get off the field.  There were some LONG stretches in the 1st half between possessions for our offense.  It's hard to get into any kind of rhythm under these circumstances.  But 41 attempted passes and less then 15 called running plays seemed unbalanced in a close, one score game. 

 

 

 

 

Especially against a poor run defense.

[Wayne Arnold]

29 minutes ago, Chill said:

Does Sean survive his 3rd O Coordinator??

 

No way.

25 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

First off this obsession with 300 yard passing games is nuts IMO.  QB's not getting anywhere close to 300 yards won 9 games today.  While QB's throwing for over 300 yards lost 4 games.  Only 1 of the QB's who threw for over 300 yards won their game. 

 

The quote from Bleacher Report is absurd.  Did the guy watch the game?  How many open targets did Allen miss today?  I count 2 - Brown on the 4th down and McKenzie on the long pass.  BTW, did anyone else think McKenzie looked like he was running in sand and actually slowed down on that play?  So on 41 attempted passes he missed 2 open guys - not bad. 

 

Allen hooked up nicely with Beasley & Brown multiple times but like Bleacher Report notes neither of these guys are spectacular - which is part of the Bill's offensive problem.  We don't have a single reliable game breaker.  After watching OBJ & Landry can there be any doubt of this?

 

As for Singletery what is Bleacher Report talking about?  He only got 8 carries so how the hell is Allen supposed to benefit from the "life" he's giving to the running game?

 

Stop. Making. Lame. Excuses. For. Josh. Allen’s. Shittiness.

[Seven-N-Nine]

7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

That’s nice.

Glad you think so, I think it's nice as well.

[TheFunPolice]

Right now I would say McDermott is an average NFL coach

 

We've had many worse... But he's just a guy as a coach...

 

He's not innovating or outscheming anyone except the bottom feeders

 

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by TheFunPolice

[london_bills]

35 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

First off this obsession with 300 yard passing games is nuts IMO.  QB's not getting anywhere close to 300 yards won 9 games today.  While QB's throwing for over 300 yards lost 4 games.  Only 1 of the QB's who threw for over 300 yards won their game. 

 

The quote from Bleacher Report is absurd.  Did the guy watch the game?  How many open targets did Allen miss today?  I count 2 - Brown on the 4th down and McKenzie on the long pass.  BTW, did anyone else think McKenzie looked like he was running in sand and actually slowed down on that play?  So on 41 attempted passes he missed 2 open guys - not bad. 

 

Allen hooked up nicely with Beasley & Brown multiple times but like Bleacher Report notes neither of these guys are spectacular - which is part of the Bill's offensive problem.  We don't have a single reliable game breaker.  After watching OBJ & Landry can there be any doubt of this?

 

As for Singletery what is Bleacher Report talking about?  He only got 8 carries so how the hell is Allen supposed to benefit from the "life" he's giving to the running game?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were good throws from Allen but only momentary things. I never got the sense that he is a QB is control of this team and offence and that he could lead them to win this game. I was hopeful on the last drive but that wasn't to be either. I actually thought he had very little presence today, aswell as not hitting all the throws. Really felt like tyrod out there. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by london_bills

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

No way.

 

Stop. Making. Lame. Excuses. For. Josh. Allen’s. Shittiness.

 

Look I admit I'm an Allen fan and I would hate to see the kid driven out of Buffalo due to the insane and ignorant expectations of a small but vocal part of the fan base and a bigger but even more ignorant segment of the Western NY sports media but pointing out the absurdity of treating 300 yard passing games as something special is NOT making a "lame excuse".

 

And sorry but all you have to do is watch a day of NFL football to appreciate the Bill's utter lack of play makers on Offense.  IMO, the ONLY Bills offensive guy that opponents defenses game plan for is Allen.  Who do you think the Bill's defensive coaches game planned for against Cleveland today?  I bet Baker Mayfield was #4 or #5 after Landry, OBJ, Chubb and even Hunt.  That you guys see this as making excuses is strange to me.

 

 

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

Allen is like a super physically gifted boxer who just throws wild haymakers

 

When it works it's great but everything is low percentage, which is why the team doesn't score points

[wvbillsfan]

 

Cover 1

 

@Cover_1_

 

John Brown breaking down the 3rd & 4 play courtesy of

@WGR550

Sounds like this was a Cover 0 sight adjustment. "I got tapped into a go ball" Tight/nasty alignment by WR so he has green horizontally & vertically. If he can't get past him, the throw will be to his backshouolder.

 

0:20

10.6K views

 

 

 

I got the fact that he checked Brown to a go based on the cover 0 look. Clearly that’s been coached into him. But if you know it’s cover 0 why is Brown the read and not Beasley. I don’t understand what he could possibly be thinking looking at that off coverage 

 

Maybe he thinks they will drop into a zone but at least peek left and if the drop into a zone throw it deep. Game on the line we basically audible to a go and throw at their best corner. That’s just not smart football from Allen. 

[iinii]

3 hours ago, Locomark said:

QBs don’t sit anymore. They are asked to learn on the fly. Rodgers or Garofalo are ridiculous examples because they were drafted behind hall of famers. As far as Mahomes, I would guarantee Allen would lol better on they KC system with those weapons than in ground and pound. Playmakers make guys looks good. I watched Maher’s throw some total double coverage bombs up only to have his superior athletes come down with it. We don’t have those athletes yet. Maybe Brown as a WR2 and maybe Knox has that potential in 2-3 years. 

Maybe sitting QBs should come back in vogue then. Maybe Allen would improve with a better OC. Maybe we just disagree. 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, london_bills said:

There were good throws from Allen but only momentary things. I never got the sense that he is a QB is control of this team and offence and that he could lead them to win this game. I was hopeful on the last drive but that wasn't to be either. I a tually thought he had very little presence today aswell as not hitting all the throws. 

 

I think two factors contributed to this:

 

1)  The offensive game plan.  Even the scripted drives were off today. 

 

2)  The lack of offensive rhythm was in part due to the D not getting off the field and limiting offensive possessions - especially in the 1st half.

 

On our last 2 possessions Allen led us to a go ahead TD, overcoming a holding penalty, and then got us into FG range for a shot to tie things up.  I watched the caroilina kicker nail a 50 yard FG into the wind and snow today so 52 yards while long IS make-able.

 

I agree though that things just seemed off today.  You get a few of these types of games every season.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

Why don't we ever beat NE, even as crap teams like MIA do ever do often?

 

We don't score points. Simple as that. 

 

NE will always score their points. If you want to beat them 16-13 they will adjust and score 17

[DuckyBoys]

3 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

 

Cover 1

 

@Cover_1_

 

John Brown breaking down the 3rd & 4 play courtesy of

@WGR550

Sounds like this was a Cover 0 sight adjustment. "I got tapped into a go ball" Tight/nasty alignment by WR so he has green horizontally & vertically. If he can't get past him, the throw will be to his backshouolder.

 

0:20

10.6K views

 

 

 

I got the fact that he checked Brown to a go based on the cover 0 look. Clearly that’s been coached into him. But if you know it’s cover 0 why is Brown the read and not Beasley. I don’t understand what he could possibly be thinking looking at that off coverage 

 

Maybe he thinks they will drop into a zone but at least peek left and if the drop into a zone throw it deep. Game on the line we basically audible to a go and throw at their best corner. That’s just not smart football from Allen. 

think that is basically the same play as the td he hit to Brown in the Jets game  They just weren't on the same page today  Would rather they just moved the chains  I feel like the simple hot reads/checkdowns are missing

[Wayne Arnold]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Look I admit I'm an Allen fan and I would hate to see the kid driven out of Buffalo due to the insane and ignorant expectations of a small but vocal part of the fan base and a bigger but even more ignorant segment of the Western NY sports media but pointing out the absurdity of treating 300 yard passing games as something special is NOT making a "lame excuse".

 

And sorry but all you have to do is watch a day of NFL football to appreciate the Bill's utter lack of play makers on Offense.  IMO, the ONLY Bills offensive guy that opponents defenses game plan for is Allen.  Who do you think the Bill's defensive coaches game planned for against Cleveland today?  I bet Baker Mayfield was #4 or #5 after Landry, OBJ, Chubb and even Hunt.  That you guys see this as making excuses is strange to me.

 

Allen threw 19 incompletions - NINETEEN! - and you’re trying to claim that he only missed on two of them.

 

That is a disturbing case of fanboyitis.

[wvbillsfan]

Just now, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Allen threw 19 incompletions - NINETEEN! - and you’re trying to claim that he only missed on two of them.

 

That is a disturbing case of fanboyitis.

Even if he didn’t miss throws he missed easy reads. 
That’s the bigger concern for me. 

[TheFunPolice]

300 yards just means you're playing football nowadays

 

It means you're in the game doing NFL QB things

 

If you never do it it's an indication that you are not consistently making plays

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Allen threw 19 incompletions - NINETEEN! - and you’re trying to claim that he only missed on two of them.

 

That is a disturbing case of fanboyitis.

I’ll go back tomorrow and look at each throw. It won’t be two but it won’t be nearly as many as you think.

1 minute ago, wvbillsfan said:

Even if he didn’t miss throws he missed easy reads. 
That’s the bigger concern for me. 

That’s what young QBs need to learn.

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Allen threw 19 incompletions - NINETEEN! - and you’re trying to claim that he only missed on two of them.

 

That is a disturbing case of fanboyitis.

 

Quit moving the goal posts.  The original criticism was that Allen was missing all sorts of OPEN receivers.  And I challenged that saying I only remember him missing 2 OPEN receivers with bad throws.

 

As for the 19 incompletions, there were drops, throwaways, great defensive plays and guys who were covered.  We had our usual couple of passes thrown at the feet of the RB because our attempted screen was blown up.  That pretty much covers the 2 bad throws and 17 other incompletions.

 

[BillsVet]

11 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Right now I would say McDermott is an average NFL coach

 

We've had many worse... But he's just a guy as a coach...

 

He's not innovating or outscheming anyone except the bottom feeders

 

I'm not as concerned with McD's decisions in-game as I am with his personnel decisions.

 

He's not the guy I want with final say on players.  For example, the defense he's sunk plenty of UFA dollars and high picks into can't seem to stop the run.  After 3 off-seasons acquiring players to build his defense that's not good enough.  

 

And let's not even get into offensive philosophy.  I haven't seen anything there which makes me believe they'll start scoring the 21 points per game he talked about needing to achieve at a Combine interview in February.  

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

300 yards just means you're playing football nowadays

 

It means you're in the game doing NFL QB things

 

If you never do it it's an indication that you are not consistently making plays

 

Or you don't have explosive play makers.  Or you haven't been in the circumstances that lead to 300 yard games - like falling way behind and piling up yardage against prevent defenses. 

 

Like I said there were 9 games won today with QB's throwing for well under 300 yards and only 1 game won by a QB throwing for more then 300 yards. 

11 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

Even if he didn’t miss throws he missed easy reads. 
That’s the bigger concern for me. 

 

Did he?  I wouldn't know from watching the game on TV. 

 

I can see when he misses a wide open guy and I can see when a receiver drops the ball and I can see when Allen throws the ball at the feet of a RB so our crappy screen play doesn't get blown up or when he throws a ball into the stands to avoid a sack.  But how many times he misses his read - I can't tell.  I wait until those guys at the Athletic or 22 review go over the film and show me where Allen made the right or wrong read.

 

 

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Or you don't have explosive play makers.  Or you haven't been in the circumstances that lead to 300 yard games - like falling way behind and piling up yardage against prevent defenses. 

 

Like I said there were 9 games won today with QB's throwing for well under 300 yards and only 1 game won by a QB throwing for more then 300 yards. 

I'm not too hung up on it but it's amazing how guys you've never heard of can walk in and do it but our guys almost never do

 

Our offense struggles to move the chains which makes 300 tough

[njbuff]

I go back to the ridiculousness at the end.

 

If the Bills don’t fix that moving forward, this regime can forget about ever winning anything of significance.

 

Most games come down to the wire and if you don’t go for the win, you almost NEVER win.

 

You think Joe Montana and Bill Walsh wanted to settle for a tying FG in the SB against Cincinnati?

 

This is my biggest problem with today’s result. Teams lose games all the time. I get that. In general, I’m not that upset with today’s loss.

 

It’s not going for the win when it’s right there for the taking.............. is what should piss us all off.

[Johnnycage46]

2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm not too hung up on it but it's amazing how guys you've never heard of can walk in and do it but our guys almost never do

 

Our offense struggles to move the chains which makes 300 tough

If Allen got 300 through the air today and we still lost would you be satisfied?  Just curious why this arbitrary "300" yard threshold is the key...

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

If Allen got 300 through the air today and we still lost would you be satisfied?  Just curious why this arbitrary "300" yard threshold is the key...

 

Who said it was the key?

 

I just care about wins

[Boatdrinks]

10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Or you don't have explosive play makers.  Or you haven't been in the circumstances that lead to 300 yard games - like falling way behind and piling up yardage against prevent defenses. 

 

Like I said there were 9 games won today with QB's throwing for well under 300 yards and only 1 game won by a QB throwing for more then 300 yards. 

Yep. Score 24 plus per game on average. Don’t need 330 yards passing to accomplish that. Dabolls scheme has no rhythm or reason too it. Just throwing plays out there. Should have methodically went down the field with a couple shots at the TD and at least a makeable FG try if they couldn’t connect. It felt like CLE had the advantage, where if the Bills D was up against that situation in the end I would think they’ve probably lost. 

[CincyBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm not too hung up on it but it's amazing how guys you've never heard of can walk in and do it but our guys almost never do

 

Our offense struggles to move the chains which makes 300 tough

 

I agree it is odd.  But I also think it's by design.  McDermitt doesn't ever want to be in a position where he's so far behind a QB has the opportunity to pile up yardage against the prevent. 

 

Hell last week Gardner Minshew threw for 309 yards in a losing cause in which his team only scored 3 points!  In some ways that's more amazing then not hitting 300 yards.

 

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

Who said it was the key?

 

I just care about wins

You do?  Oh cool.  Then we are on the same page. It just seemed as though stats were more important than wins. We are in sync.  All good.  Wins are all that matters.  Luckily the Bills are 6 and 3.  Which is great. I am sure you agree that is great as you are all about the wins.

[KOKBILLS]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Or you don't have explosive play makers.  Or you haven't been in the circumstances that lead to 300 yard games - like falling way behind and piling up yardage against prevent defenses. 

 

Like I said there were 9 games won today with QB's throwing for well under 300 yards and only 1 game won by a QB throwing for more then 300 yards. 

 

Agreed 100%...

 

I want the Bills to be a modern Offense...I want them to throw it plenty, so don't misunderstand this rant...But one of the things we were told about Daboll's system is that it would be match-up specific...There is literally no way anyone is going to convince me of that based on what I'm seeing...We went on the road against a woefully bad run Defense...A Run D allowing almost 5 yards per carry so far this year!!!...4.9 yards per rush!!! 141 rushing yards per game!!! And there is no question running the ball was NOT the gameplan...Period...It was NOT the gameplan...

 

Either Daboll and McD do not feel our O-Line is capable of running a physical Run 1st gameplan based on the match-up, or they're complete idiots...Especially vs the Browns because a pass heavy attack brings their 2 best players (Ward and Garrett) into the gameplan MUCH more...

 

This gameplan today, and the Offensive coaching today, was basically NFL football malpractice...They literally found a way to lose to an inferior team while only giving up 19 freaking points...They completely ignored going after Cleveland's greatest weakness, and instead attacked the area (pass Defense) where the Browns are ranked 6th best in the NFL...You want Dawkins on roller skates every down trying to block one of the best DE's in the game, or drive blocking him into the ground? Your choice...They were having trouble blocking Garrett on double teams at times in the passing game...What a joke...

 

Embarrassing...?

[TheFunPolice]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

You do?  Oh cool.  Then we are on the same page. It just seemed as though stats were more important than wins. We are in sync.  All good.  Wins are all that matters.  Luckily the Bills are 6 and 3.  Which is great. I am sure you agree that is great as you are all about the wins.

I'm happy they are 6-3 

 

I do worry that the offense can't put together more than a couple drives per game... I think that's where the 300 yard argument cones from

 

It's not a high threshold... Even today, which didn't feel like a great offensive game, one long pass would have given Josh 300 

 

The fact that we can't consistently move the ball is the problem.... 

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Agreed 100%...

 

I want the Bills to be a modern Offense...I want them to throw it plenty, so don't misunderstand this rant...But one of the things we were told about Daboll's system is that it would be match-up specific...There is literally no way anyone is going to convince me of that based on what I'm seeing...We went on the road against a woefully bad run Defense...A Run D allowing almost 5 yards per carry so far this year!!!...4.9 yards per rush!!! 141 rushing yards per game!!! And there is no question running the ball was NOT the gameplan...Period...It was NOT the gameplan...

 

Either Daboll and McD do not feel our O-Line is capable of running a physical Run 1st gameplan based on the match-up, or they're complete idiots...Especially vs the Browns because a pass heavy attack brings their 2 best players (Ward and Garrett) into the gameplan MUCH more...

 

This gameplan today, and the Offensive coaching today, was basically NFL football malpractice...They literally found a way to lose to an inferior team while only giving up 19 freaking points...They completely ignored going after Cleveland's greatest weakness, and instead attacked the area (pass Defense) where the Browns are ranked 6th best in the NFL...You want Dawkins on roller skates every down trying to block one of the best DE's in the game, or drive blocking him into the ground? Your choice...They were having trouble blocking Garrett on double teams at times in the passing game...What a joke...

 

Embarrassing...?

 

I think you bring up some uncomfortable truths about today's game. 

 

First off I don't think McD & Daboll are idiots but I do think Daboll over thinks & over complicates things.  For some reason he thought we could attack the Browns downfield but with a modern day Bruce Smith on the field and the QB NOT wearing a red jersey it's a dangerous assumption.

 

I also don't think Daboll has much confidence in our RB's.  He doesn't see Singleterry as a week in and week out 20 - 25 carry bruiser.  And Gore wouldn't last half the season if we tried to run him in that mode.  We simply don't have the backfield talent to do what at least half the NFL offenses can do when needed - pound the football.

 

 

 

 

 

[Figster]

8 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm happy they are 6-3 

 

I do worry that the offense can't put together more than a couple drives per game... I think that's where the 300 yard argument cones from

 

It's not a high threshold... Even today, which didn't feel like a great offensive game, one long pass would have given Josh 300 

 

The fact that we can't consistently move the ball is the problem.... 

I agree, 

 

There's really not much consistency in anything Buffalo does except play down to its opponent.

 

No identity...

[par73]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

And has anyone else noticed that Philly and Cleveland seem to be 2 of the more disarrayed teams in the league?  

 

In Philly players were fighting each other, Cleveland is a train wreck with a terrible HC, and what did both teams and their garbage cultures do?  Beat us with our great culture.

 

Hmmm.

 

 

So, they don't all love each other?

[njbuff]

At least they punted well today. ?

[CincyBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm happy they are 6-3 

 

I do worry that the offense can't put together more than a couple drives per game... I think that's where the 300 yard argument cones from

 

It's not a high threshold... Even today, which didn't feel like a great offensive game, one long pass would have given Josh 300 

 

The fact that we can't consistently move the ball is the problem.... 

 

This is where the circumstances of the game come into play.  Say the Bills didn't have that goal line stand in the 1st half and the Browns score a TD.  Then late in the game Cleveland ices things with that last TD to go up 26 - 16.  Now on that last drive Allen, throwing against a prevent D, drives us down for a TD with 18 seconds left, getting that last 35 yards.  Bingo he just got his first 300 yard game!  And we lose 26 - 23. 

 

Since Allen has come back from his injury last year we just haven't had to many of those types of games.  Our games are usually close affairs. 

[KOKBILLS]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I think you bring up some uncomfortable truths about today's game. 

 

First off I don't think McD & Daboll are idiots but I do think Daboll over thinks & over complicates things.  For some reason he thought we could attack the Browns downfield but with a modern day Bruce Smith on the field and the QB NOT wearing a red jersey it's a dangerous assumption.

 

I also don't think Daboll has much confidence in our RB's.  He doesn't see Singleterry as a week in and week out 20 - 25 carry bruiser.  And Gore wouldn't last half the season if we tried to run him in that mode.  We simply don't have the backfield talent to do what at least half the NFL offenses can do when needed - pound the football.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough...That would certainly explain it...

 

But it still does not excuse the fact that we don't have the personnel to do exactly what we were told Daboll was going to do...IE work the gameplan on match-ups...Especially when finding good RB's is about as easy a position to fill as there is in the NFL...

 

But whatever...I'm getting more angry just thinking about it...Let's have our still very young inexperienced QB go out an fling it 40 times on the road against one of the worst Run Defenses in the NFL...

 

All that being said if Josh hits one...ONE deep pass we are probably not having this conversation...

 

Ugh...?

[DuckyBoys]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I think you bring up some uncomfortable truths about today's game. 

 

First off I don't think McD & Daboll are idiots but I do think Daboll over thinks & over complicates things.  For some reason he thought we could attack the Browns downfield but with a modern day Bruce Smith on the field and the QB NOT wearing a red jersey it's a dangerous assumption.

 

I also don't think Daboll has much confidence in our RB's.  He doesn't see Singleterry as a week in and week out 20 - 25 carry bruiser.  And Gore wouldn't last half the season if we tried to run him in that mode.  We simply don't have the backfield talent to do what at least half the NFL offenses can do when needed - pound the football.

 

Daboll has been doing this all year  He's another I'm smarter than everyone else guy. 

 

 

 

 

[KOKBILLS]

5 minutes ago, par73 said:

So, they don't all love each other?

 

There's a lot of love in that Bills locker room... A LOT of love...

 

Not much Offense, but a TON of love...?

[WideNine]

53 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Allen threw 19 incompletions - NINETEEN! - and you’re trying to claim that he only missed on two of them.

 

That is a disturbing case of fanboyitis.

 

So Wayne.

 

I hear your complaints, what solutions do you propose?

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, wvbillsfan said:

 

Cover 1

 

@Cover_1_

 

John Brown breaking down the 3rd & 4 play courtesy of

@WGR550

Sounds like this was a Cover 0 sight adjustment. "I got tapped into a go ball" Tight/nasty alignment by WR so he has green horizontally & vertically. If he can't get past him, the throw will be to his backshouolder.

 

0:20

10.6K views

 

 

 

I got the fact that he checked Brown to a go based on the cover 0 look. Clearly that’s been coached into him. But if you know it’s cover 0 why is Brown the read and not Beasley. I don’t understand what he could possibly be thinking looking at that off coverage 

 

Maybe he thinks they will drop into a zone but at least peek left and if the drop into a zone throw it deep. Game on the line we basically audible to a go and throw at their best corner. That’s just not smart football from Allen. 

 

If this is what happened that it means they did try to win the game and not settle for the FG.  You can call it a bad decision by Allen but you could also say it was an aggressive attempt to end the game in regulation.  On the road and with an inferior kicker, we were at a disadvantage in OT.