A few thoughts about the TBD gameday thread, in no particular order

[Sherlock Holmes]

28 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

When people live in a wealthy country and have a lot of time on their hands, they like to create things to complain about, to give their lives meaning...usually these people are caucasians who have white guilt....but it tells you all you need to know when an overwhelming majority of native Americans don’t even care about the name.

Very very true! I'm not the least bit bothered, words are words... it's all about context.

[The Senator]

 

Two things...

 

(1) I was looking at the God-like Patriots 8-0 record, and realized that we’re the only winning team they’ve beaten;

 

(2) Also looked at the tie-breakers and realized that if the Ravens beat NE tonite and the Bills somehow ‘win out’, the Bills win the AFC East - despite what NE does.

 

It’s ALWAYS more fun to be an optimist! ?

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

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[Wayne Arnold]

1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Sick of the pussified nature of today's society... and we think we've come so far yet everybody is all hot and bothered over words constantly. So ######ed, whoops!!! Somebody is going to be triggered so lest me apologize in advance, NOT...

 

Reallllly on the censoring... just proves the point. Guess there really isn't such a thing as the 1st amendment anymore. Shame

 

Someone is triggered.

[Sherlock Holmes]

33 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Someone is triggered.

I was gonna utilize triggered but didn't want to trigger others by seeing the word triggered... #@$! it's just an endless cycle of triggering and being triggered when you use that term!

[Buffalo Boy]

3 hours ago, Gray Beard said:

I think most fans know the following:

1.  The D-Line isn’t good enough against the run

2.  The O-Line isn’t getting a good enough push in the run game

3.  They don’t have a receiver who is as big and as sure handed as they like

 

I bet the coaches know it, too.

Exactly!!!

McD got a TT led team to a playoff berth and and He will do it with this team.

I will say, he is leaving points off the board a little too often. Take the field goals when they are there. If we are going to play close games as a rule( We are) take all the points and fewer chances, especially when playing with a lead.

[zonabb]

Classic Homer right here. Good lord. Always clap, always wear rose color glasses, always ignore the quality of the teams they beat.... good lord. 

 

Proudly booed them again today. How many times are they going to line up DeMarco and Gore in the I or offset I and get no gain before they realize this isn't 1958? 

 

Enjoy winning badly. It's not sustainable and it will beat no team in this league with a winning record. But yeah, "convincing" win today over the 1-7 Redskins and a rookie QB who had the handcuffs on just like the Bills treat Allen. 

 

Think this team is beating the Ravens who are crushing the Pats? Or Chiefs? Or Houston? Nope, nope, nope, and nope. 

[apuszczalowski]

4 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

Two things...

 

(1) I was looking at the God-like Patriots 8-0 record, and realized that we’re the only winning team they’ve beaten;

 

(2) Also looked at the tie-breakers and realized that if the Ravens beat NE tonite and the Bills somehow ‘win out’, the Bills win the AFC East - despite what NE does.

 

It’s ALWAYS more fun to be an optimist! ?

 

GO BILLSSS!!!!

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Except Like Usual, they are beating them convincingly and aren't struggling to get the win

8 wins this season with 7 by Double digits (By 30 vs Pitts, 43 vs Mia, 16 vs Jets, 26 vs Was, 21 vs Giants, 33 vs Jets, 14 vs Browns, only close win was by 6 vs Bills)

The Bills biggest victory was the 15 today against the Redskins which would be the Pats 3rd lowest margin of victory this season.

Against common opponents, the Bats beat the Jets by 16 & 33, Bills beat them by 1, Pats beat Miami by 43, Bills by 10, by 26 vs Washington compared to by 15, by 21 vs the Giants compared to 14 by the Bills.

 

So yeah, The Pats are also beating teams that aren't winning also, but they are atleast doing it convincingly as they are expected to.

 

It did look like this week that the Bills might make a statement and finally have a dominating game against the Redskins after the 1st half, but like usually, they went into a shell for the 2nd half and decided to just try and run out the rest of the game clock.

[JMF2006]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Well, I’m not here to give anything away........

 

Except maybe, who didn’t have a thing for Catwoman? 

 

Lee Merriweather yes   Eartha Kitt  No

[The Senator]

1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said:

Except Like Usual, they are beating them convincingly and aren't struggling to get the win

8 wins this season with 7 by Double digits (By 30 vs Pitts, 43 vs Mia, 16 vs Jets, 26 vs Was, 21 vs Giants, 33 vs Jets, 14 vs Browns, only close win was by 6 vs Bills)

The Bills biggest victory was the 15 today against the Redskins which would be the Pats 3rd lowest margin of victory this season.

Against common opponents, the Bats beat the Jets by 16 & 33, Bills beat them by 1, Pats beat Miami by 43, Bills by 10, by 26 vs Washington compared to by 15, by 21 vs the Giants compared to 14 by the Bills.

 

So yeah, The Pats are also beating teams that aren't winning also, but they are atleast doing it convincingly as they are expected to.

 

It did look like this week that the Bills might make a statement and finally have a dominating game against the Redskins after the 1st half, but like usually, they went into a shell for the 2nd half and decided to just try and run out the rest of the game clock.

 

Yes, well the Pats certainly struggled tonight against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens!   

 

They looked anything but dominant, and showed that they can be ‘taken to school’!

 

Brady was particularly bad, and I would expect that if Ed Oliver and the Bills’ D can put that kind of pressure on him, he will crumble against us.

 

Going into their bye week, we are the only winning team the Patriots have beaten, and that was only because Josh crumbled.  The Bills certainly played well enough to beat them.

 

JMO.

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[The Senator]

7 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Lee Merriweather yes   Eartha Kitt  No

 

What?  No love for Julie Newmar?

 

[apuszczalowski]

2 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Yes, well the Pats certainly struggled tonight against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens!   

 

They looked anything but dominant, and showed that they can be ‘taken to school’!

 

Brady was particularly bad, and I would expect that if Ed Oliver and the Bills’ D can put that kind of pressure on him, he will crumble against us.

 

Going into their bye week, we are the only winning team the Patriots have beaten, and that was only because Josh crumbled.  The Bills certainly played well enough to beat them.

 

JMO.

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And the Bills have yet to beat a team with a winning record.......

They struggled against a team that many of the experts around the league view as being the 2nd/3rd best team in the AFC and a team that usually gives them trouble

Bradys particularly bad game still had him throwing for the same amount of TDs, and more yards then Allen with 1 INT

 

The Ravens offence has looked good in many games this year and this wasn't the first time this year they scored over 20 points.....

 

[Figster]

7 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

Tyrod numbers.

Lamar Jackson and the Ravens just beat the defending Champion Patriots with a good run game and Tyrod numbers.

[Chandler#81]

7 hours ago, eanyills said:

The problem is that the Bills haven’t looked impressive. I’ll give them the Patriots loss but four of our wins are against the four worst teams in the league and we’ve struggled in all of them. They don’t pass the eye test (or the analytics test).

 

Also, 14/20 for 160 isn’t good enough to win against any playoff caliber team. This team isn’t as good as their record suggests. They might make the playoffs, great, but I still don’t think they’re very good. 

Please leave!

[The Senator]

6 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

And the Bills have yet to beat a team with a winning record.......

They struggled against a team that many of the experts around the league view as being the 2nd/3rd best team in the AFC and a team that usually gives them trouble

Bradys particularly bad game still had him throwing for the same amount of TDs, and more yards then Allen with 1 INT

 

The Ravens offence has looked good in many games this year and this wasn't the first time this year they scored over 20 points.....

 

 

Other than the Patriots, we have yet to play one!

 

(I do hope the Bills coaches were taking notes tonight - we got the Ravens here in a month.)

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[NoHuddleKelly12]

7 hours ago, eanyills said:

The problem is that the Bills haven’t looked impressive. I’ll give them the Patriots loss but four of our wins are against the four worst teams in the league and we’ve struggled in all of them. They don’t pass the eye test (or the analytics test).

 

Also, 14/20 for 160 isn’t good enough to win against any playoff caliber team. This team isn’t as good as their record suggests. They might make the playoffs, great, but I still don’t think they’re very good. 

Exhibit A. See OP.

[Figster]

8 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Other than the Patriots, we have yet to play one!

 

(I do hope the Bills coaches were taking notes tonight - we got the Ravens here in a month.)

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At the top of the note pad.

 

Lamar Jackson spells TROUBLE... 

[Chandler#81]

29 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

What?  No love for Julie Newmar?

 

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

 

[Spiderweb]

7 hours ago, Gray Beard said:

I think most fans know the following:

1.  The D-Line isn’t good enough against the run

2.  The O-Line isn’t getting a good enough push in the run game

3.  They don’t have a receiver who is as big and as sure handed as they like

 

I bet the coaches know it, too.

Morse may be a quality center overall but he's clearly a better pass protector than a run blocker. Neither he, nor Spain or Feliciano got any push when the Bills pounded it up the gut with Gore. It was horrifically frustrating to watch time and time again the attempting to run Gore up the middle only to be stuffed over and over. To his credit, Singletary made some nice runs but much of it was on his own. 

[JMF2006]

7 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

What?  No love for Julie Newmar?

 

 

I think I got the actresses name wrong that's the one   

[Hapless Bills Fan]

16 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Wonder what the yardage was on the 2 passes that hit Brown in the hands but went incomplete? It would have at least put him over 200 yards.

 

I'm as salty as anyone about Terry Bradshaw saying on the postgame show "the Bills are Not a Good Team".  But he is a championship-winning QB and when Howie (I think) responded that we're 6-2 and if Allen can connect on the deep pass that's our missing piece, Terry shook his head and said "they aren't built for that" and then expanded "they need more weapons"

 

I think Brown is the best WR we've had here in years and the perfect "don't say much, work hard" guy not to Diva out at any Allen growing pains.  But we're missing a #1 guy, and so far Daboll's plan to not have a #1 guy but spread it around is not working out too well.

 

10 hours ago, Figster said:

Lamar Jackson and the Ravens just beat the defending Champion Patriots with a good run game and Tyrod numbers.

 

Did you watch the game?  The passing numbers overall were not high, but Lamar had a couple of "exorcist" level spin-your-head-around how did he make that? throws which relied upon both unreal passing and unreal receiving skills.

Edited November 4, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan
my mistake

[Seven-N-Nine]

The game day threads are the most fun, I like the fast and furious posting. I also don't think the thread should only be for like minded homers like the OP desires.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

Its funny when Tyrod was here that wasn't good enough but with Allen its good enough. 

 

What is there about the collective amount of Allen critique on this board that leads you to say so?

 

That queried, you do realize that Allen makes fundamentally different passes than Tyrod did?  He will step up into a throwing lane in the pocket and throw with anticipation.  Not always, but steadily increasing.  After Tyrod had been here 2 years, we realized he wasn't going to and that was proven in 2017 when he was put into a WCO that expected him to throw timing passes and his output fell off.

[whatdrought]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What is there about the collective amount of Allen critique on this board that leads you to say so?

 

That queried, you do realize that Allen makes fundamentally different passes than Tyrod did?  He will step up into a throwing lane in the pocket and throw with anticipation.  Not always, but steadily increasing.  After Tyrod had been here 2 years, we realized he wasn't going to and that was proven in 2017 when he was put into a WCO that expected him to throw timing passes and his output fell off.

 

Come on hapless... don’t be crazy. Tyrod made those third and 18 throws with a chance to ice the game every single week. Obviously. 

[Seven-N-Nine]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What is there about the collective amount of Allen critique on this board that leads you to say so?

 

Allen is a 1st round QB, Tyrod is not. The critique is warranted and should not be a surprise. Tyrod was an underdog story, and we know how WNY'ers love their underdogs.

[Figster]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm as salty as anyone about Terry Bradshaw saying on the postgame show "the Bills are Not a Good Team".  But he is a championship-winning QB and when Howie (I think) responded that we're 6-2 and if Allen can connect on the deep pass that's our missing piece, Terry shook his head and said "they aren't built for that" and then expanded "they need more weapons"

 

I think Brown is the best WR we've had here in years and the perfect "don't say much, work hard" guy not to Diva out at any Allen growing pains.  But we're missing a #1 guy, and so far Daboll's plan to not have a #1 guy but spread it around is not working out too well.

 

 

Did you watch the game?  The passing numbers overall were not high, but  Jackson had a couple of "exorcist" level spin-your-head-around how did he make that? throws which relied upon both unreal passing and unreal receiving skills.

???

 

 

The point I was making is you don't need 300 plus yards passing to beat a good football team. Control the football / TOP, and keep Tom Brady off the football field.

 

Yes, I watched the game...

Edited November 4, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan
my mistake

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

 

Allen is a 1st round QB, Tyrod is not. The critique is warranted and should not be a surprise. Tyrod was an underdog story, and we know how WNY'ers love their underdogs.

 

The contention to which I was responding was " Its funny when Tyrod was here that wasn't good enough but with Allen its good enough.  "

 

Would you assert that in general, the contention here is that Allen is "good enough"?  Is that your contention?

 

Would you argue (which the above seems to imply) that Tyrod was supported and considered "good enough" when he was here?

[Seven-N-Nine]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The contention to which I was responding was " Its funny when Tyrod was here that wasn't good enough but with Allen its good enough.  "

 

Would you assert that in general, the contention here is that Allen is "good enough"?  Is that your contention?

 

Would you argue (which the above seems to imply) that Tyrod was supported and considered "good enough" when he was here?

 

I contend that Tyrod was given more rope than Allen will receive due to Allen's draft status.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 minutes ago, Figster said:

???

The point I was making is you don't need 300 plus yards passing to beat a good football team. Control the football / TOP, and keep Tom Brady off the football field.

Yes, I watched the game...

 

(I messed up a name, I meant Lamar)

 

I certainly agree with your point that 300 yd games are not needed to beat a good football team given good defense and clock control!!!

 

My point was that I don't see Lamar as a 2nd Tyrod.  I think that's a superficial "running QB" type comparison.  Lamar was a better passer than Tyrod ever was in college and he's a better passer now than Tyrod ever showed in the pro's.  Tyrod never made those "spin my head around" throws Lamar pulled off a couple times last night.

4 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

I contend that Tyrod was given more rope than Allen will receive due to Allen's draft status.

 

OK, so your contention is that Tyrod was a "feel good underdog story" that was given more rope by the fans than Allen is given by the fans, because fans expect more of a #1?

I don't know about that.  There was a lot of criticism of TT as an incapable passer from Day 1.

 

It's certainly not true that Allen will get less rope from the coaches because of his draft status - to the contrary.

[Golden*Wheels]

If you can't handle the gameday thread, just stay out of the gameday thread.

[Seven-N-Nine]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

It's certainly not true that Allen will get less rope from the coaches because of his draft status - to the contrary.

 

Yes, I think this is a given. Their career's are linked to his success.

[Figster]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

(I messed up a name, I meant Lamar)

 

I certainly agree with your point that 300 yd games are not needed to beat a good football team given good defense and clock control!!!

 

My point was that I don't see Lamar as a 2nd Tyrod.  I think that's a superficial "running QB" type comparison.  Lamar was a better passer than Tyrod ever was in college and he's a better passer now than Tyrod ever showed in the pro's.  Tyrod never made those "spin my head around" throws Lamar pulled off a couple times last night.

I think Taylors problem was between the ears and wasn't implying Lamar is Tyrod Taylor the 2nd.

 

Although the styles of play are similar...

Edited November 4, 2019 by Figster

[Albany,n.y.]

14/20 for 160 yards gets it done on a very windy day.  Everyone seems to forget that the winds can change a gameplan.  More running, less throwing.  If anything the game shows that the team learned that on a windy day they need to run the ball more than.  The Bills had almost double the running plays they tried vs the Eagles and threw 41% fewer times vs Washington as they did the prior week vs Philadelphia.  

 

So anyone who quotes a stat line on a windy day & claims it won't work down the line needs to understand weather conditions better & be glad the Bills learned from the Eagles game to run more on a windy day.  

Edited November 4, 2019 by Albany,n.y.

[Roundybout]

14 hours ago, zonabb said:

Classic Homer right here. Good lord. Always clap, always wear rose color glasses, always ignore the quality of the teams they beat.... good lord. 

 

Proudly booed them again today. How many times are they going to line up DeMarco and Gore in the I or offset I and get no gain before they realize this isn't 1958? 

 

Enjoy winning badly. It's not sustainable and it will beat no team in this league with a winning record. But yeah, "convincing" win today over the 1-7 Redskins and a rookie QB who had the handcuffs on just like the Bills treat Allen. 

 

Think this team is beating the Ravens who are crushing the Pats? Or Chiefs? Or Houston? Nope, nope, nope, and nope. 

 

I hate being a bills fan because of people like you. These miserable "woke" toxic fans that always have to be right. Always have to be a contrarian. For what? Is your life that miserable that you have to tear other people down when they're happy their team has the best record they've had since 1993? 

 

"Proudly booed them again today." Holy hell. I guarantee you weren't at the game because you would have been knocked the ***** out. 

[Figster]

10 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

14/20 for 160 yards gets it done on a very windy day.  Everyone seems to forget that the winds can change a gameplan.  More running, less throwing.  If anything the game shows that the team learned that on a windy day they need to run the ball more than.  The Bills had almost double the running plays they tried vs the Eagles and threw 41% fewer times vs Washington as they did the prior week vs Philadelphia.  

 

So anyone who quotes a stat line on a windy day & claims it won't work down the line needs to understand weather conditions better & be glad the Bills learned from the Eagles game to run more on a windy day.  

Good posting Albany,

 

I wonder If all the "fire Daboll" posters get it.

[The Senator]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

I think I got the actresses name wrong that's the one   

 

You were right, sort of...

 

Lee Meriweather replaced Julie Newmar in the 1966 feature film...

 

 

[CodeMonkey]

19 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We are a mediocre team that has beaten bad teams in no particular order.

 

Yes, and mediocre should get the Bills in the playoffs given their schedule this season.

[CSBill]

19 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Never complain after a Buffalo Bills win

 

- Abraham Lincoln

 

Yeah, he posted that on his Twitter account.

45 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

You were right, sort of...

 

Lee Meriweather replaced Julie Newmar in the 1966 feature film...

 

 

 

Where are Myron Bolitar and Windsor Horne Lockwood III when we need them?

 

 

[The Senator]

.we’re winning...we’re better

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[The Senator]

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we’re winning... we’re better

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