dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Of course you were..... since everyone knew what Mahomes was going to do, I wonder why BB didn’t give up his whole draft for the first overall pick and take Mahomes ? Andy Reid and Sean Payton were the two people who were all in on Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: He didn't say anything. If he had balls, he'd have either said, "this team was set behind years by the previous GM and HC," or said, "Brandon Beane and I have already made bad decisions and we're trying to avoid making more," or both. But he said neither. His wording is cryptic and weak, if you ask me. He played the smart card- the NFL circle is small. No need to burn bridges or throw previous regimes under the bus. He took a shot across the bow in a classy way. IMO a very smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: What it says to me is that previous regimes sucked at their jobs, and this team has likely one or two more drafts before they are who we want them to be. A good number of fans will not wrap their collective heads around this reality, and will whine insensately for the duration of this season at a minimum. SM envisions a Steelers/Pats type of team organization and he knows we are not there yet. I get it, and am willing to wait, we still likely make the playoffs this year so we got that. Go Bills!!! Spot on Don. Could not agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) Edited October 30, 2019 by JoeF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There's a time when the Bills signed/traded for big names just to out asses in the seats. I think he was saying they don't do that anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Whaley's trades for players: Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. I believe he was referring to poor decisions overall not just those made at the trade deadline. He wasn’t inferring they all deals done at the trade deadline are bad. He was inferring that in answering the question about why no trades yesterday, there were deals they could have made that they ultimately didn’t deem responsible and that didn’t match up with their overall strategy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I can't think of any blockbuster trade deadline deals the Bills have executed in recent history. There was the KB trade. There was the year we got rid of Dareus, Glenn, Sammy, and paid Corey Coleman for 2 weeks of service but few view those moves poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Not to mention that EJ was really a Nix pick. There is no indication that Nix did anything in the Hughes trade, although it is possible. He was already out the door. He wasn't going to leave before getting a QB and he wanted EJ (amongst all of the other crappy choices). and you're absolutely right about the trade down and result. I do think that Whaley played a large role in the drafting of Manuel. He did all of the scouting and worked him out personally on a rainy day in FL. Fun fact: he was almost certainly the anonymous Bills front office person who talked down Matt Barkley after going to his pro day at USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: That wasn't a trade for a player, however. That's the issue. Also, with regard to Manuel, at least they traded down before taking him. They netted Alonso out of that, which they later turned into McCoy. While he was asked about trades, it’s pretty clear he was talking about “ irresponsible decisions”, which includes many things. Otherwise , he’d have said “ irresponsible trades”. Overall, it was a true and rather innocuous statement by McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 All joking aside, that was uncharacteristic of McD, which hints at possible dissent at the deadline in the front office. There was zero reason to offer that to the press, considering it's his GM who's been the most active in the trade market over the past decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: He played the smart card- the NFL circle is small. No need to burn bridges or throw previous regimes under the bus. He took a shot across the bow in a classy way. IMO a very smart move. No burn bridges or throw anyone under the bus would be to say, "We like the guys we have. We made and received calls trying to improve our team but the prices were too high for us to make a deal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Guess that means he learned his lesson when he traded a 3rd for Kelvin Benjamin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: He played the smart card- the NFL circle is small. No need to burn bridges or throw previous regimes under the bus. He took a shot across the bow in a classy way. IMO a very smart move. I respectfully disagree. Classy would have not been saying anything at all. What he did was kind of slimy, in my opinion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: While he was asked about trades, it’s pretty clear he was talking about “ irresponsible decisions”, which includes many things. Otherwise , he’d have said “ irresponsible trades”. Overall, it was a true and rather innocuous statement by McD. Yeah, I know that, but the question was specifically about trades. As for the Bills acting responsibly or not before his arrival, I don't know. Their main problem was an inability to hit on a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Andy Reid and Sean Payton were the two people who were all in on Mahomes. No kidding, I remember it well. However, if it was that obvious to the all knowing , the dark lord in Foxboro would have been all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: No kidding, I remember it well. However, if it was that obvious to the all knowing , the dark lord in Foxboro would have been all over it. The dark lord may well have known and engineered it such that the one guy he knew he could beat in a crucial game, Andy Reid, would end up with Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Isn’t it “mince” words? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Maybe just maybe it is frustration a deal didnt get done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: Yeah, I know that, but the question was specifically about trades. As for the Bills acting responsibly or not before his arrival, I don't know. Their main problem was an inability to hit on a QB. Well, most Bills fans do know. It was clear his answer wasn’t just referencing trades. . While the QB was obviously a big problem, there were many others involving draft picks, salary cap management etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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