dave mcbride Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The OP is 100 percent correct. His deep throwing has been horrible this season. All misses so far. No drops by the receivers on any of those throws either. Just now, Bubba Gump said: Oh, you mean the throw Zay gave up on and didn't bother trying to break it up? Yeah, that one was underthrown a bit, and was a pathetic display of Zay bailing out instead of trying to break it up. No, he has been horrible all season. He is something like 0-10 with two picks on deep/bomb throws. None have been catchable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Can’t argue, the long ball has been totally off this season. First they were too deep now they’re underthrown. Needs a lot of work there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I think it’s decision making more than anything. Defenses still have to respect his arm strength. Just keep the chains moving. Stop looking for highlight plays all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The OP is 100 percent correct. His deep throwing has been horrible this season. All misses so far. No drops by the receivers on any of those throws either. No, he has been horrible all season. He is something like 0-10 with two picks on deep/bomb throws. None have been catchable. I know, it's quite disturbing. He was money on deep balls last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The OP is 100 percent correct. His deep throwing has been horrible this season. All misses so far. No drops by the receivers on any of those throws either. No, he has been horrible all season. He is something like 0-10 with two picks on deep/bomb throws. None have been catchable. Even the connection he had with John Brown deep over the middle.... I wanna say the Giants game. Had he not had to jump to catch the ball he would have scored. The deep ball has been abysmal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Right on Zay. I'd rather see Duke Williams out there. Foster. Not sure why he fell back on the depth chart. Zay and Josh just have no connection. I know Foster is hurt now but he should be starting outside. Edited September 30, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think it’s decision making more than anything. Defenses still have to respect his arm strength. Just keep the chains moving. Stop looking for highlight plays all the time. Was going to say something like this. There’s nothing wrong with drinking and dunking to move the chains. Brady’s been doing that his whole career. Mahomes has changed the way people perceive a quarterback should play with all his highlight reel throws. Thing is, he has the talent surrounding him that makes it possible to put up those big plays. Josh does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He has no touch on the deep balls. You can't just gun them downfield. He needs work on that, but that's probably for the off season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, GG said: Uhm, the INT was on an under thrown ball to a relatively slow WR who had beaten the coverage. Well, there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He spent so much on the short game that i think he took his deep ball for granted. He definitely needs to work on it and stop throwing off his back foot. In todays game - he was throwing the deep ball under duress - hence as you mention off his back foot. The deep ball needs to be thrown when you can properly deploy good mechanics. It's just part of the process of watching a young QB learn I suppose. There's so much to like about him and I think he gets there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, White Linen said: In todays game - he was throwing the deep ball under duress - hence as you mention off his back foot. The deep ball needs to be thrown when you can properly deploy good mechanics. It's just part of the process of watching a young QB learn I suppose. There's so much to like about him and I think he gets there. The 1st and 2nd interceptions he had all day to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, White Linen said: In todays game - he was throwing the deep ball under duress - hence as you mention off his back foot. The deep ball needs to be thrown when you can properly deploy good mechanics. It's just part of the process of watching a young QB learn I suppose. There's so much to like about him and I think he gets there. Throwing the deep ball under duress is going to be common in a "short to long" progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, vincec said: He has no touch on the deep balls. You can't just gun them downfield. He needs work on that, but that's probably for the off season. Oftentimes he doesn’t put enough air under it which allows his WR to run under the ball or adjust their route to accommodate a less than perfect throw. He just fires it down field like a bazooka. He doesn’t have to be Jeff Blake but damn Josh, put some air on those throws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said: He improved his accuracy in short and medium ropes. But his long shots are all underthrown or overthrown. Not only today picks . I can remember only 1 long TD pass by air in 4 games - to Smoke in Jets game. Last year he had several long passes to Foster and completion to Zay for 63 yards by air (next gen stats) In draft his best advantage was cannon arm. I rooted for this draft pick watching his college highlights for 50-60 yards bombs. Where is it now ? He needs to get more air under them and throw more of a rainbow so his receiver can run under it. He zips it in there too hard and if he’s not super accurate it just flies over wrs head. On a fly route if the ball is accurate it would be a tough catch any way because of the angle. It seems like he only throws the rainbow about 15 yards down field to the sideline. Idk why he won’t do it any deeper Edited September 30, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm not sure what to think of Josh, the second time he threw a bad int in two games he did his presser saying l can't throw that kind of pass and it will not happen again. Guess what,he throws the same kind of pass with the same results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: The OP is 100 percent correct. His deep throwing has been horrible this season. All misses so far. No drops by the receivers on any of those throws either. No, he has been horrible all season. He is something like 0-10 with two picks on deep/bomb throws. None have been catchable. The one John Brown caught for the game winning TD in NJ was generously called a "back shoulder" throw the TV play-by-play guy when it was just a wounded duck thrown in the general direction of the WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 A couple guys I know who are Pats fans have seen Josh Allen only twice now. The Pats games of course. They think he is one of the worst QBs they have ever seen. I’m trying to defend the guy. I thought he was pretty average to below against Cinci. I thought he sucked today. Our receivers aren’t the greatest either but he misses dudes all the time. Cmon man, he’s better than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hard to throw the ball when you are throwing off your back foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The one John Brown caught for the game winning TD in NJ was generously called a "back shoulder" throw the TV play-by-play guy when it was just a wounded duck thrown in the general direction of the WR. I do remember chuckling when he said that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: They threw deep to Zay 3 times today. He is not our deep guy and is slow and was overthrown because of that. I have no clue why he is running the deep routes. Exactly....Zay should be only used on short/ intermediate possession routes. Never use him for fly routes or hitch n go. Brown & Foster only Dabol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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