Big Turk Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Incognito being candid and admitting he fell back into drinking and drugs during the 2017, saying he was showing up to team functions high, was overweight, unmotivated and that he put up a lot of red flags which led to the Bills requesting he take a pay cut...full story below(looks like its behind a pay wall, but for those that have a BN subscritpion appears like it will be a good read). At least this gives some more background as to what was going on...at the time I remember Incognito acting in ways that seemed to indicate mental health problems may be arising or at least some form of cry for help, and now we may know what caused it or at least greatly contributed to it. http://buffalonews.com/2019/09/23/hey-listen-im-ok-incognito-addresses-his-mistakes-and-his-time-with-bills-on-real-sports/ Edited September 24, 2019 by matter2003 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Interesting At that point, it would have been nice to know if the Bills were aware of Incognito’s drinking and drugging during the 2017 season that led him to being asked to take a pay cut. No Bills executive is interviewed. “Incognito says that after leaving the team, he began using even more drugs … and was exhibiting wild mood swings,” reported Goldberg. “And those who came into contact with him during that time … often knew that something wasn’t right with Richie Incognito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 You worry about people like this when they don't have things like football to occupy their time anymore. Hopefully the guy keeps his life together, but one day football will no longer be an option. The question is what will he do when that day comes? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) I had no idea he fell back into bad habits in 2017 , oh well. Hope he is back on track now. Wonder if Castillo at OL coach had a bad effect on him . Edited September 24, 2019 by ALF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Sounds like certain posters owe the organization an apology. Remember a LOT of people here castigating beane for the Incognito situation. Shows the true professionalism of the organization that they kept quiet about it. 22 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Glad to see he’s being accountable for his actions while here. There was no shortage of posts in these parts suggesting the Bills were at fault and screwed RI by asking him to take a pay cut. 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Sounds like certain posters owe the organization an apology. Remember a LOT of people here castigating beane for the Incognito situation. Shows the true professionalism of the organization that they kept quiet about it. Just posted similar thoughts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, K-9 said: Glad to see he’s being accountable for his actions while here. There was no shortage of posts in these parts suggesting the Bills were at fault and screwed RI by asking him to take a pay cut. Just posted similar thoughts. Even worse. There were some posters who blamed the Bills for Richie’s meltdown after the pay cut. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Richie is seems like an amazing guy when he is ‘right’. Richie could have a future In public speaking or maybe even broadcasting. Well spoken and has great insight. I hope for his sake he can stay on the straight and narrow path. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Richie is seems like an amazing guy when he is ‘right’. Richie could have a future In public speaking or maybe even broadcasting. Well spoken and has great insight. I hope for his sake he can stay on the straight and narrow path. He has personal demons like many others...he will need to figure out how to handle them if he wants that...id say its 40/60 that he does. Edited September 24, 2019 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Eric Wood seems like he kept RI in check while in Buffalo. Sounds like things were already starting to spiral, but guessing Wood's retirement didn't help. The front office might have even know that w Wood gone, the issue was bound to get worse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, stony said: Eric Wood seems like he kept RI in check while in Buffalo. Sounds like things were already starting to spiral, but guessing Wood's retirement didn't help. The front office might have even know that w Wood gone, the issue was bound to get worse. Seems a bit stretch-y to look at wood or the previously mentioned Castillo here. The dudes always been incredibly erratic, regardless of coach, teammate, etc... two things here though - if he was out of shape and showing up high I’m surprised they even offered the pay cut if this is what he’s owning, I’m curious what if any more is left unsaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 This reeks of NSA cover up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Even worse. There were some posters who blamed the Bills for Richie’s meltdown after the pay cut. It was inspired by the anti Beane peeps of this board. Thankfully, they are a dying breed round here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Incognito being candid and admitting he fell back into drinking and drugs during the 2017, saying he was showing up to team functions high, was overweight, unmotivated and that he put up a lot of red flags which led to the Bills requesting he take a pay cut...full story below(looks like its behind a pay wall, but for those that have a BN subscritpion appears like it will be a good read). At least this gives some more background as to what was going on...at the time I remember Incognito acting in ways that seemed to indicate mental health problems may be arising or at least some form of cry for help, and now we may know what caused it or at least greatly contributed to it. http://buffalonews.com/2019/09/23/hey-listen-im-ok-incognito-addresses-his-mistakes-and-his-time-with-bills-on-real-sports/ Substance abuse always leads to mental health problems. I hope he stays clean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Those posts saying that the Bills "screwed" Incognito and that's what set him off were always ridiculous at the time. Even more so now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 i understand the desire to be forgiving/see the best in people, but it always shocks me how people seem almost surprised when a repeat offender offends again. richie, as much as i like him, is a drug addict and not exactly a good guy. the surprising thing should be when they keep clean, not when the fall back, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Seems a bit stretch-y to look at wood or the previously mentioned Castillo here. The dudes always been incredibly erratic, regardless of coach, teammate, etc... two things here though - if he was out of shape and showing up high I’m surprised they even offered the pay cut if this is what he’s owning, I’m curious what if any more is left unsaid. In this case I think the organization was hedging its bets. When Incognito was focused he was arguably our best lineman. However, when he started to show signs of trouble the team was willing to risk keeping him on with the hope of a return to normalcy. If it didn't work out then the cost of a release would have been less costly. Everyone knew about his mental health issues and his intermittent erratic behavior. Under control he was a good player. Not under control he was disruptive. The organization wanted to protect itself with a smaller contract. It was a wise thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I just wanna wish Richie the best. Hope he is able to put this behind him and stay straight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Incognito is one of those guys that continually screws up and, down the road, admits to it being his fault and a lot of people then think he is then on the right path. Edited September 24, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I wish him well.....in my opinion he should stop playing football, it seems like a trigger for reckless behavior in him and he should stop banging his head into others.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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