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Should 12th man on Bills Wall of Fame be changed to Bills Mafia?

Should “12th Man” on Bills Wall of Fame be changed to “Bills Mafia”  

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  1. 1. Should “12th Man” on Bills Wall of Fame be changed to “Bills Mafia”

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12th man seems generic.

 

Also, fails to account for away games where Bills Loyalists show up in numbers.

 

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No.

Although it's gained traction in the last few years, "Bills Mafia" is a really lame name.

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I say yes, old timers will say no.   Heck, just add Bills Mafia along side the 12th Man 

 

There is no right answer. Some will argue about the connotations of the word mafia, but the national media has accepted and encouraged its use.  It is a unique element to the Bills and ought be embraced. 

Just now, LeGOATski said:

It's 2019. Should be "12th Person"

Ok, you’ve been triggered. Got it. 🤷‍♂️

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Uh.....NO!!

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No.  The 12th man is special.  

 

We were called that by the greatest teams we ever had.  Coming to Rich Stadium to play the Bills and the 12th man was once a daunting task.  

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3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

It's 2019. Should be "12th Person"

or even better, “12th Non-Binary Individual”

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When other fans hear Bills Mafia they tend to just think of the slamming tables, humping girls in public, fans lighting themselves on fire, etc...

 

So of course there’d probably be some who’d want it 😄

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Na, “Mafia” is so lame and just full of cringe.

 

It’s embarrassing when they actually say it on tv

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It’s actually an interesting thought and I voted yes. 12th man isn’t us!! Texas A&M owns it (I think) and the Seahawks are the NFL team that everyone identifies with it. It’s like the Bills trying to pretend that, “Trust the Process” is a Bills thing. It isn’t. The whole Bills Mafia thing is us and only us. It’s an all-encompassing term to encapsulate the way that we rally together, good and bad. I ALWAYS prefer things that are ours not things that we took from someone else.

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I'm pretty ambivalent because I don't like either epithet.  "12th Man" isn't original.  "Mafia" has negative associations.  

 

But since the "12th Man" moniker isn't used anymore and Bills fans are widely called the "Bills Mafia" now, I get BB's point.  

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12th man is literally a thing that means the fans represent a force like a 12th player on the field. Bills Mafia is just a name for the fans it doesn't really have any meaning of them cheering being a useful force.

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13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s actually an interesting thought and I voted yes. 12th man isn’t us!! Texas A&M owns it (I think) and the Seahawks are the NFL team that everyone identifies with it. It’s like the Bills trying to pretend that, “Trust the Process” is a Bills thing. It isn’t. The whole Bills Mafia thing is us and only us. It’s an all-encompassing term to encapsulate the way that we rally together, good and bad. I ALWAYS prefer things that are ours not things that we took from someone else.

 

I’d rather share an innocuous name than go for “mafia”. Were Bloods and Crips taken already? 

 

I did enjoy The Godfather movies, however. Well, more than that horse did!   😋

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6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’d rather share an innocuous name than go for “mafia”. Were Bloods and Crips taken already? 

 

I did enjoy The Godfather movies, however. Well, more than that horse did!   😋

The whole “12th man” thing isn’t Bills. I just hate things that we stole (hence my issues with “process”). The “Bills Mafia” thing at least belongs to us. It is unique to us. If we want to recognize the fan base I’d rather recognize Bills fans than “generic football fan base.” That’s what 12th man is. It is every team’s fans. I like the idea of us vs. everyone else. Whether you like Bills Mafia or not it isn’t something that we are sharing.

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12th Man really was a factor when Rich Stadium sat 83,000 people in the early 90's and you could completely get in the heads of visiting teams. Crowd noise was much louder then. Bills Mafia is more fitting today.

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2 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

12th Man really was a factor when Rich Stadium sat 83,000 people in the early 90's and you could completely get in the heads of visiting teams. Crowd noise was much louder then. 

 

 

Have you been to a home game since then?  The crowd is loud....

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Just now, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Have you been to a home game since then?  The crowd is loud....

Indeed I have, many times and the crowd is loud. However, it is not close to the level it used to be when the stadium was at full capacity of 83000+.

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