Dan Darragh Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) I had to look up who #88 was on buffalobills.com https://www.buffalobills.com/video/isaiah-mckenzie-rushes-in-for-touchdown Edited August 24, 2019 by Dan Darragh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Nice! The other 88 (on the lions) stole the show, but he was supposed to. Nice to see from Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Knox looked good yesterday even though no passes came his way. He is aggressive in the blocking game which is great! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, wppete said: Knox looked good yesterday even though no passes came his way. He is aggressive in the blocking game which is great! Pretty much describes his college career 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Pretty much describes his college career Yeah I agree, hopefully Josh can throw some balls his way to start the season. He is fast and athletic. Good thing is he is a willing aggressive blocker also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, wppete said: Yeah I agree, hopefully Josh can throw some balls his way to start the season. He is fast and athletic. Good thing is he is a willing aggressive blocker also. I think he’s definitely capable of being an effective pass catching TE and he has traits that could make him special. Will be interesting to watch his usage, with Daboll being a former TE coach in NE’s system I am hopeful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Yes, one of those plays I did not catch because no mention of the block/blocker by either announcer. And it seemed to be the impetus for the touchdown, integral. Great to see and I think the tight ends will be dramatically more productive this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 He essentially took 2 guys out of the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Nice! The other 88 (on the lions) stole the show, but he was supposed to. Nice to see from Knox. Hockenson is going to be a star in this league. As a rookie he is going to be an impact player. He can do it all. WOW! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 do they keep Lee Smith if some of the other TE's can block well and catch? Kroft - Knox - Sweeney unless they keep 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Having a blocking TE is nice to have but we need a pass catching TE and I didn’t see that on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, JohnC said: Hockenson is going to be a star in this league. As a rookie he is going to be an impact player. He can do it all. WOW! At #8 overall, it is the expectation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Knox also had a good block on the touchdown by Singletary. he also had a key block on Gore's big run when he got injured. Can't wait to see him catching passes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, wppete said: Yeah I agree, hopefully Josh can throw some balls his way to start the season. He is fast and athletic. Good thing is he is a willing aggressive blocker also. it will happen he's just been out so long that i think coaches wanted him to get his feet wet first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Knox also had a good block on the touchdown by Singletary. he also had a key block on Gore's big run when he got injured. Can't wait to see him catching passes. We isolated him on every snap he was on the field for. He looked like he belonged on every one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: do they keep Lee Smith if some of the other TE's can block well and catch? Kroft - Knox - Sweeney unless they keep 4? A guy with foot problems and 2 rookies? I doubt that’s going to be the TE room. I imagine they keep Smith as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: At #8 overall, it is the expectation I'd rather have him than oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, JohnC said: Hockenson is going to be a star in this league. As a rookie he is going to be an impact player. He can do it all. WOW! as he did in college, really wanted Hockenson. Had amazing hands and blocked like a lineman. Would have been a great weapon for Allen , hopefully Knox can do that for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: as he did in college, really wanted Hockenson. Had amazing hands and blocked like a lineman. Would have been a great weapon for Allen , hopefully Knox can do that for us. https://www.google.com/amp/s/chowderandchampions.com/2019/04/01/new-england-patriots-2019-nfl-draft-dawson-knox-possibility/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: A guy with foot problems and 2 rookies? I doubt that’s going to be the TE room. I imagine they keep Smith as well. With 4.5m guaranteed it would be a pretty amazing whiff if they don’t keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/chowderandchampions.com/2019/04/01/new-england-patriots-2019-nfl-draft-dawson-knox-possibility/amp/ hopefully, Knox needs more mass if he wants to be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Having a blocking TE is nice to have but we need a pass catching TE and I didn’t see that on display. I agree, but didn't seem like may pass plays to the tight end we're called last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'd rather have him than oliver. If that's the way you feel, then go out and buy every Oliver jersey you can find, burn them, and buy yourself one of these to wear on Sundays: https://www.nflshop.com/detroit-lions/mens-detroit-lions-tj-hockenson-nfl-pro-line-blue-player-jersey/t-25932497+p-6972387571966+z-9-1453192132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: If that's the way you feel, then go out and buy every Oliver jersey you can find, burn them, and buy yourself one of these to wear on Sundays: https://www.nflshop.com/detroit-lions/mens-detroit-lions-tj-hockenson-nfl-pro-line-blue-player-jersey/t-25932497+p-6972387571966+z-9-1453192132 Whoa, settle down there Cornette. Your commentary sucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: do they keep Lee Smith if some of the other TE's can block well and catch? Kroft - Knox - Sweeney unless they keep 4? I am thinking Lee Smith is a goner..... We have TEs that can block....and we need that spot for other positions on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Whoa, settle down there Cornette. Your commentary sucks. Looking back, do you wish Beane had traded up to 6 with the Giants, and taken Hockenson, before Detroit could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he’s definitely capable of being an effective pass catching TE and he has traits that could make him special. Will be interesting to watch his usage, with Daboll being a former TE coach in NE’s system I am hopeful Remember during the draft, as soon as Beane took Knox at #96, the Patriots traded out of the #98 spot. A reasonable conclusion here is that the Pats* wanted Knox, and we hopped in front of them and took the guy they wanted. That made me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: as he did in college, really wanted Hockenson. Had amazing hands and blocked like a lineman. Would have been a great weapon for Allen , hopefully Knox can do that for us. If he does become a star we can take solace in the fact that he didn't fall to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Poleshifter said: Remember during the draft, as soon as Beane took Knox at #96, the Patriots traded out of the #98 spot. A reasonable conclusion here is that the Pats* wanted Knox, and we hopped in front of them and took the guy they wanted. That made me happy. They were very interested in him because he actually said that he thought he was going to the Pats - they must have told him that they were taking him if he was there, the Bills knew they wanted him, and traded up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If he does become a star we can take solace in the fact that he didn't fall to us. If he does become a star, fans and the local media (especially Howard Simon who wrote an entire article, where he said he wanted no one else at 9 but Hockenson) will be saying that Beane should have traded up for him, and that he could have gotten a DT in rounds 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: If he does become a star, fans and the local media (especially Howard Simon who wrote an entire article, where he said he wanted no one else at 9 but Hockenson) will be saying that Beane should have traded up for him, and that he could have gotten a DT in rounds 3 or 4. The most surprising thing about this is that Howard Simon wrote an article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They were very interested in him because he actually said that he thought he was going to the Pats - they must have told him that they were taking him if he was there, the Bills knew they wanted him, and traded up always good getting one on the Pats. Besides Knox is better off here, we are heading up and the Pats are at the end of their run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: I agree, but didn't seem like may pass plays to the tight end we're called last night Which is what a lot of us here wanted to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: If he does become a star, fans and the local media (especially Howard Simon who wrote an entire article, where he said he wanted no one else at 9 but Hockenson) will be saying that Beane should have traded up for him, and that he could have gotten a DT in rounds 3 or 4. Trading up in the top 10 for a TE is insanity. We already made that mistake with a certain WR. Let's just wait and see whether Olver or Hoch has a better career and not speculate off of a preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Trading up in the top 10 for a TE is insanity. We already made that mistake with a certain WR. Let's just wait and see whether Olver or Hoch has a better career and not speculate off of a preseason game. True. Except, Hockenson was viewed as the next Gronkowski. Fans would have been thrilled to trade up in the top 10 for a TE, if there was a guarantee that he'd have a career like Gronk did. Edited August 24, 2019 by Cornette's Commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: True. Except, Hockenson was viewed as the next Gronkowski. Fans would have been thrilled to trade up in the top 10 for a TE, if there was a guarantee that he'd have a career like Gronk did. If that was true he would've been taken in the top three. He didn't have the muscle mass or hand size that Gronk had. The most common comparison I heard if he reached his full potential was Zach Ertz. Fans wouldn't have been thrilled with a trade up after the Watkins debacle, but if he develops into a stud then you have a point, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 It'll be crazy once he gets his first TD. He didn't score one in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If that was true he would've been taken in the top three. He didn't have the muscle mass or hand size that Gronk had. The most common comparison I heard if he reached his full potential was Zach Ertz. Fans wouldn't have been thrilled with a trade up after the Watkins debacle, but if he develops into a stud then you have a point, Agreed, he is not similar to Gronk. Knox is, however (size/speed). Unless he was being compared to him in terms of projected impact. But not similar In style/traits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said: do they keep Lee Smith if some of the other TE's can block well and catch? Kroft - Knox - Sweeney unless they keep 4? Yes for contract money is guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Knox took out two guys so very good move on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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