Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Preseason games aren't meaningless. Its clear Josh and crew were out of sync and they need more game reps not less. Also way too many penalties on both sides, teams looked sloppy. The less these guys practice the more they get dinged up. 3 lions went down in the first half alone. There comes a point were you actually need to be conditioned to hitting and doing less is not helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Preseason games aren't meaningless. Its clear Josh and crew were out of sync and they need more game reps not less. Also way too many penalties on both sides, teams looked sloppy. The less these guys practice the more they get dinged up. 3 lions went down in the first half alone. There comes a point were you actually need to be conditioned to hitting and doing less is not helping. Was it clear though? Josh had 6 pass attempts for the HALF. that can't be allowed to happen in an actual game. WAY too many first down runs. Seemed like when they opened the playbook on the two minute drill, things looked a bunch better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Really disappointed with the penalties. Special teams kind of sucked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Duke & Yeldon have to be considered. Everyone claims Ray Ray has improved, but he's still dropping balls. I agree. I had Duke & Yeldon penciled in as cuts. Just erased that theory. Yeldon’s receiving prowess was on full display and its great! So, 4 RBs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Warcodered said: Not sure we'll have a more definite idea with the 4th game if he doesn't play there I don't know what they're doing but hiding him though I feel that would be really obvious. Duke definitely stacked another nice day. Duke in, Ray Ray out, the way I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Whats with all the pinned group chats?? Come here much?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Cut Beasley! #butterfingers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Augie said: The kid has played less than one season, and this was his first time getting all the reps in TC. I’ll stay relaxed, with fingers crossed. For a while..... Not a great night for JA, but at the same time they went run first and looks like the coach's took away the short game on purpose [not tipping hand to the Jets], forcing him to make only tight-window, intermediate throws, of which he had a few beauties. Bad pick, but if you listen to JA after the game, it almost sounds like he was thinking: it's only pre-season, I'll let it fly - I like to think there's a mature component to an otherwise awful decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I like this team. Penalties were a mess. Beasley fumble was unfortunate, but otherwise I'm happy. I liked two minute drill. I liked run game. I liked passing game, which wasn't used until Josh got his rest. I love the defense. Really really good. I really loved Edmunds. Speed and smarts on display. I loved the winning attitude that generated yhe takeaway the third down run to win the game. Very nice, all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 We saved our best for our national TV game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgrappler Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I like this team. Penalties were a mess. Beasley fumble was unfortunate, but otherwise I'm happy. I liked two minute drill. I liked run game. I liked passing game, which wasn't used until Josh got his rest. I love the defense. Really really good. I really loved Edmunds. Speed and smarts on display. I loved the winning attitude that generated yhe takeaway the third down run to win the game. Very nice, all around. Our defense got smoked by Stafford. I think our defense is good but that was a reality check yesterday. I am less confident in them now. Edited August 24, 2019 by fishgrappler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Duke in, Ray Ray out, the way I see it. I think Ray Ray played with a lot of heart last night. He may not be good enough, but damn, the effort was there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The defense played well against the run for the most part and the #1 pass defense was off. Probably a mirage of vanilla defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 hours ago, MJS said: Rough night for the starting offense. Tough to evaluate with all the penalties and turnovers. isn't that an evaluation right there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: The fact that we are 3-0 with Tyree Jackson playing significant time says something. Not sure what. Maybe that our 53 man roster is gonna be good. But everything still rests on Allen. Means nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 people overreacted last week saying how great we are and overreacting this week saying how bad we are. We are a good team but still have an unsettled O-Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I think Ray Ray played with a lot of heart last night. He may not be good enough, but damn, the effort was there. Yep, but hes got the dropsies! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, berg1029 said: The way I see it.. there are 2 possible end game strategies for Josh: 1) try to force him to become an efficient passer that takes less risks and runs less. i.e. a Ben Roethlisberger type 2) a player that runs and passes very aggressively. I'm not sure who would be the best comparison for this type of player. Maybe somewhere in between Mahomes and Cam Newton? there are things he can do that no other QB can. if you actively try to coach it out of him, he might not be able to make use of his biggest advantage: his physical gifts. it's kind of a fine line to walk because you want to play to his strengths, but you don't want costly turnovers. In case 1, you would want him coax him out of that sort of thing, whereas in case 2 you would want him to learn what he can get away with and what he can't (i.e. when to make that cross body throw that almost no one else in the league would even attempt) and maybe even help him develop these talents so that he is more efficient using them. how the coaching staff proceeds with him is going to be interesting. Am I the only one that thinks Josh is terrible at throwing in the run? I felt like last year every time he did it he was seriously under throwing his targets. Think back to how many times Zay had to come back for the ball last year. Then of course people want to blame Zay for drops. I know josh isn’t and won’t be perfect. I’m a huge fan of him. But I get itchy any time I see him run if it even looks like he’s going to throw it. Just tuck and run or throw it away 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: The defense played well against the run for the most part and the #1 pass defense was off. Probably a mirage of vanilla defenses. Probably a product of the fake #1 ranked pass defense. We were so high last year because teams didn’t have to pass to beat us. Which is why our run defense was terrible last year. Im not saying the defense is bad. I think they look pretty good overall. But the thought that they were touted as the #2 ranked defense and best against the pass is a joke. When it mattered they could stop people from getting into the end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 13 hours ago, MJS said: Rough night for the starting offense. Tough to evaluate with all the penalties and turnovers. Mjs, I hear you, and it was very frustrating, but can we just admit that the goal of the night before even started was “work the run”? i believe I am correct, but not 100% sure in saying that for the entire first half, even for the start of the 2 minute drill, that there was no series that began with a pass on first down, and no first down throw until less than 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The crawl on the NFL Network said we lost last night. It might just be because I am hungover but that annoyed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: Probably a product of the fake #1 ranked pass defense. We were so high last year because teams didn’t have to pass to beat us. Which is why our run defense was terrible last year. Im not saying the defense is bad. I think they look pretty good overall. But the thought that they were touted as the #2 ranked defense and best against the pass is a joke. When it mattered they could stop people from getting into the end zone #1 overall in yardage is arguable as not as meaningful. #2 pass really should not be dismissed. The backfield is pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Mjs, I hear you, and it was very frustrating, but can we just admit that the goal of the night before even started was “work the run”? i believe I am correct, but not 100% sure in saying that for the entire first half, even for the start of the 2 minute drill, that there was no series that began with a pass on first down, and no first down throw until less than 2 minutes. I agree. I am not worried. But you have to imagine that the coaches aren't happy with the penalties. And we've had a lost fumble in all three games of the preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why didn't Wade play? We hiding him to stash him? We either sign him or lose him. And it looks like we’re going to let him be another team’s highlight reel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why didn't Wade play? We hiding him to stash him? I want to see Duke Williams remain in a Bills uniform, and I don't think he clears wavers. I think Wade goes to the PS . I think he will get play time in the 4th preseason game. I would want Duke Williams on the 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 My immediate reaction? Josh Allen made one moronically stupid play and two poor throws. It was obvious from the first snap that the goal was to experiment with the run game. Mixed bag with the o-line, but to be expected given all the new role players. Our defense very rarely (if at all) blitzed. Very vanilla. Expect to see so many more diverse looks from Frazier for week 1. Tremaine Edmunds is a savage. Going to be a star. Special teams sucked. Blocking on kick returns sucked. Punt coverage was okay, but Corey B was wildly inconsistent. My only really solid takeaways from this game is that Josh Allen needs to get in a rhythm to throw with consistent accuracy, our special teams units need work, and we need to bring in a punter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Was it clear though? Josh had 6 pass attempts for the HALF. that can't be allowed to happen in an actual game. WAY too many first down runs. Seemed like when they opened the playbook on the two minute drill, things looked a bunch better. Dont want to show everything, just remember how bad we always looked the past 20 yrs in preseason . Tonight was great and it shows we can actually run the ball unlike last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: My immediate reaction? Josh Allen made one moronically stupid play and two poor throws. It was obvious from the first snap that the goal was to experiment with the run game. Mixed bag with the o-line, but to be expected given all the new role players. Our defense very rarely (if at all) blitzed. Very vanilla. Expect to see so many more diverse looks from Frazier for week 1. Tremaine Edmunds is a savage. Going to be a star. Special teams sucked. Blocking on kick returns sucked. Punt coverage was okay, but Corey B was wildly inconsistent. My only really solid takeaways from this game is that Josh Allen needs to get in a rhythm to throw with consistent accuracy, our special teams units need work, and we need to bring in a punter. It was stupid and Josh admitted making a rookie mistake. As to vanilla ... can we have a little chocolate thrown in? First my how the Barkley lead offense went to the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Come here much?? yes , but isnt it better to let us create the posts than you run everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: yes , but isnt it better to let us create the posts than you run everything? Hey bud. The format was something Scott wanted to try out to try to eliminate LAMP game reviews. Apparently people are being a bit stubborn to try to see if the format works. Give it time. It will work or it will go into the bit bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Hey bud. The format was something Scott wanted to try out to try to eliminate LAMP game reviews. Apparently people are being a bit stubborn to try to see if the format works. Give it time. It will work or it will go into the bit bucket. i guess, just seemed fine before. Turd posts get ignored anyway and if something of interest comes up it will get talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Was it clear though? Josh had 6 pass attempts for the HALF. that can't be allowed to happen in an actual game. WAY too many first down runs. Seemed like when they opened the playbook on the two minute drill, things looked a bunch better. Dabol was keeping that playbook shut for the same reason Beli**** keps his mouth shut: the Bills were not about to give a national TV audience a whiff of what's cooking at OBD. Poker face playcalling is a GOOD thing in preseason, when the games don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think Allen was well aware that it was a preseason game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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