billsfan1959 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: Uh, the Steelers lost their QB. They weren't that good before they lost him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Niners he had at 3-13. They are currently 5-0 Lions he had at 3-13. They're 2-1-1 and IMO one of the best teams nobody talks about Saints at 8-8...they're 4-1 and clearly one of the top teams Bills at 7-9, Chiefs at 16-0...both are 4-1 lmao And people say this dude ain't a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 When predicting season records always factor in the AFC North game that ends up in a tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Niners he had at 3-13. They are currently 5-0 Lions he had at 3-13. They're 2-1-1 and IMO one of the best teams nobody talks about Saints at 8-8...they're 4-1 and clearly one of the top teams Bills at 7-9, Chiefs at 16-0...both are 4-1 lmao And people say this dude ain't a troll. 4-0 but who’s counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Jamie Nails said: 4-0 but who’s counting sry yes correct i was not actually counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I guess Zerovoltz is no Alphadamus ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: They wouldn't have made 12-4 even WITH rapelisberger. They're just not that good, man. No I agree. I think they would have won a very average North. But I had that at 9 or 10 wins. No way that was a 12 win team. 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: Niners he had at 3-13. They are currently 5-0 Lions he had at 3-13. They're 2-1-1 and IMO one of the best teams nobody talks about Saints at 8-8...they're 4-1 and clearly one of the top teams Bills at 7-9, Chiefs at 16-0...both are 4-1 lmao And people say this dude ain't a troll. Being wrong does not make you a troll. And while we are mea culpa'ing I was not high on the 49ers either. Had them 7-9. They are clearly better than that. Edited October 8, 2019 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Being wrong does not make you a troll. And while we are mea culpa'ing I was not high on the 49ers either. Had them 7-9. They are clearly better than that. Predicting the Chiefs finish 19-0 and the Bills 7-9, as a Chiefs fan on a Bills messageboard, has got to be as close to the literal definition of trolling as you can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Predicting the Chiefs finish 19-0 and the Bills 7-9, as a Chiefs fan on a Bills messageboard, has got to be as close to the literal definition of trolling as you can get. Trolling is just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. Having a controversial opinion is not trolling or else I would have spent plenty of time on this board as a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Trolling is just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. Having a controversial opinion is not trolling or else I would have spent plenty of time on this board as a troll. Agreed, I think it is just blind homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: Agreed, I think it is just blind homerism. Sure. He is a Chiefs homer. But he is capable of proper discussion and debate. Anyone of whom I think that I do not regard as a troll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Trolling is just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. Having a controversial opinion is not trolling or else I would have spent plenty of time on this board as a troll. No, trolling is saying something you don't mean to get reactions. It isn't necessarily that it has to be the same crap over and over, it's saying things that are consistently wrong designed specifically to aggravate people which is the dude's MO. And I give him credit for at least admitting as much. The kicker is he doesn't know much about pro football. There's nothing 'controversial' about being wrong a ton, it just makes him and people who stand up for him look ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Trolling is just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. Having a controversial opinion is not trolling or else I would have spent plenty of time on this board as a troll. Actually....I would call that crusading Its hard to call you a troll Gunner when your right most of the time Going onto another teams board....telling them that THEY are going to have a losing season....and predicting your team is going to go undefeated is flat trolling.....no way around that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: No, trolling is saying something you don't mean to get reactions. It isn't necessarily that it has to be the same crap over and over, it's saying things that are consistently wrong designed specifically to aggravate people which is the dude's MO. And I give him credit for at least admitting as much. The kicker is he doesn't know much about pro football. There's nothing 'controversial' about being wrong a ton, it just makes him and people who stand up for him look ridiculous. You don't think he meant that the Chiefs could go 19-0? I think he absolutely did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: You don't think he meant that the Chiefs could go 19-0? I think he absolutely did I don't CARE if you think that's what he actually meant. It's still a dumb thing to write. Those kind of opinions don't deserve to be taken seriously, as it's NEVER happened before in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You don't think he meant that the Chiefs could go 19-0? I think he absolutely did So would he rather be thought a troll, or be known to be idiotic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: I don't CARE if you think that's what he actually meant. It's still a dumb thing to write. Those kind of opinions don't deserve to be taken seriously, as it's NEVER happened before in NFL history. No cos you are closer to trolling on this subject. You have no interest in a debate. You have decided Zero is a troll and will not engage with his opinions as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: No cos you are closer to trolling on this subject. You have no interest in a debate. You have decided Zero is a troll and will not engage with his opinions as a result. No one seriously could have picked the chiefs to go 19-0. You'd have to be missing a chromosome to even think like that. Hell, if he'd even tacked on one loss, it would have been more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: No one seriously could have picked the chiefs to go 19-0. You'd have to be missing a chromosome to even think like that. Hell, if he'd even tacked on one loss, it would have been more believable. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: Why? Because it's happened exactly ONCE in NFL history, in a far different era, AND the Chiefs defense is a travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: No cos you are closer to trolling on this subject. You have no interest in a debate. You have decided Zero is a troll and will not engage with his opinions as a result. There's no point in debating trolls. Nor people who defend them, at least on this topic. You think the Chiefs going 19-0 is a legitimate opinion and call me a troll because I say it's dumb, go ahead with it. You're defending the guy who was clearly wrong, and insulting the guy who is demonstrably right. Good luck w/that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 JeffsMagic is not a troll and he was not engaging in trolling behavior. He simply has had very bad predictions, which is not trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 hours ago, RememberTheRockpile said: Over on the Titans board he claimed he was banned here. Just checked. So he was. On 8/22/2019 at 9:30 AM, Tenhigh said: Almost every one of his football posts are about the splendor and glory of the Chiefs and the mediocrity and/or terribleness of the Bills, on a Bills board. How is that not trolling? What is your criteria? That's not how I see it, FWIW. There are fans who come here all full of themselves and their team and are all about how we (or some of our key players) suck and their team is great and they're here to enlighten us. They typically have kind of a short half-life, and I suppose that's a form of trolling but it's so obvious it's easy. Zerovoltz isn't that sort IMO. The more challenging troll is the one who expresses opinions or beliefs he really doesn't sincerely hold himself, for the purpose of eliciting reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: No one seriously could have picked the chiefs to go 19-0. You'd have to be missing a chromosome to even think like that. Hell, if he'd even tacked on one loss, it would have been more believable. You're right on the unlikelihood of the occurrence, Many of us are "a few peas short of a cassarole" where are fandom is concerned. Being a "believer" to the point of being unrealistic as a fan is kind of part of the territory. 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Trolling is just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. Having a controversial opinion is not trolling or else I would have spent plenty of time on this board as a troll. Trolling is not just endlessly repeating the same crap over and over. That's campaigning (or crusading, if you take it from thread to thread), though it can be one of the strategies trolls adopt. You're right that having a controversial opinion is not trolling. The key (to me) is the generality of a guy's posts. If I look at the posting history, and then maybe at the context of what's going on in a thread, what's the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's not how I see it, FWIW. There are fans who come here all full of themselves and their team and are all about how we (or some of our key players) suck and their team is great and they're here to enlighten us. They typically have kind of a short half-life, and I suppose that's a form of trolling but it's so obvious it's easy. Zerovoltz isn't that sort IMO.The more challenging troll is the one who expresses opinions or beliefs he really doesn't sincerely hold himself, for the purpose of eliciting reactions. Like his favorite team going undefeated? The guy has stated he's here to generally remind folks that the Bills passed on drafting Mahomes fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Well there goes those predictions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just checked. So he was. That's not how I see it, FWIW. There are fans who come here all full of themselves and their team and are all about how we (or some of our key players) suck and their team is great and they're here to enlighten us. They typically have kind of a short half-life, and I suppose that's a form of trolling but it's so obvious it's easy. Zerovoltz isn't that sort IMO. The more challenging troll is the one who expresses opinions or beliefs he really doesn't sincerely hold himself, for the purpose of eliciting reactions. He may have cleaned his act up; however, when he first started posting on this site, it certainly had a trolling feel to it - so much so that I pretty much started ignoring him and did not read too many of his subsequent posts. I trust you are right in your assessment of him now or you would have banned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Because it's happened exactly ONCE in NFL history, in a far different era, AND the Chiefs defense is a travesty. just for the record... no one has ever gone 19 -0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just checked. So he was. That's not how I see it, FWIW. There are fans who come here all full of themselves and their team and are all about how we (or some of our key players) suck and their team is great and they're here to enlighten us. They typically have kind of a short half-life, and I suppose that's a form of trolling but it's so obvious it's easy. Zerovoltz isn't that sort IMO. The more challenging troll is the one who expresses opinions or beliefs he really doesn't sincerely hold himself, for the purpose of eliciting reactions. We will have to agree to disagree here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I don't think he's a troll. I think he's a relatively bright Chiefs fan with WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much time on his hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I don't think he's a troll. I think he's a relatively bright Chiefs fan with WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much time on his hands. ^This. I barely have enough time to check in on this site - much less another team's site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: ^This. I barely have enough time to check in on this site - much less another team's site. Oh, he's only been a Chiefs fan since Mahomes got drafted by them. His roots were only as deep as his man-crush allowed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: Oh, he's only been a Chiefs fan since Mahomes got drafted by them. His roots were only as deep as his man-crush allowed. Kind of figured he was Bills fan who jumped ship - which means not really a true fan at all. If true, troll or not, he doesn't really need to be on this site. Sorry; however, that's how I feel. If you abandon this team and begin rooting for another team, then don't come back on this board. Read some posts that said he was formerly jeffsmagic. It wouldn't surprise me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 19 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: There are a few bold predictions posted in this thread that some would prefer remain unearthed. I don't think that word means what you think it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Kind of figured he was Bills fan who jumped ship - which means not really a true fan at all. If true, troll or not, he doesn't really need to be on this site. Sorry; however, that's how I feel. If you abandon this team and begin rooting for another team, then don't come back on this board. Read some posts that said he was formerly jeffsmagic. It wouldn't surprise me. Yes, Jeffismagic was his name originally. I guess when his allegiances changed so did his name, kinda like Bruce to Caitlyn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: Yes, Jeffismagic was his name originally. I guess when his allegiances changed so did his name, kinda like Bruce to Caitlyn. I thought that had been looked into and discounted. My understanding was they are demonstrably not the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Yes, Jeffismagic was his name originally. I guess when his allegiances changed so did his name, kinda like Bruce to Caitlyn. I remember Jeffismagic being much more emotional....I don't think Zero is Jeffismagic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I thought that had been looked into and discounted. My understanding was they are demonstrably not the same person. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I remember Jeffismagic being much more emotional....I don't think Zero is Jeffismagic. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't remember if anyone had proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt before. And, yes, Jeff was definitely one who stayed in his "feels" all the time. I thought his Chiefs fandom may have brought him some kind of inner peace which was the cause of the tone-down so to speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 a lot of unnecessary time and energy has been invested in this for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I thought that had been looked into and discounted. My understanding was they are demonstrably not the same person. Maybe, Maybe not. I do find it quite interesting that he showed up here the day after the 2017 draft ended as a Chief's fan... Coincidence? And he spent a considerable amount of time telling us how awful Allen was after he was drafted. So, even though I have read from you and Hapless (both posters I respect) that he now engages in substantive discussions, he definitely started out trolling this board. I have my thoughts about him, which I have expressed, and I choose not to respond to him on this board for reasons I have previously stated. Not asking anything of anyone else - just giving my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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