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To soon after the nfl season. They should have started after the draft. Everybody is ready for football by then.

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I, for one, can not wait to see another Kevin Gilbride offense take the field. 

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I lived in Birmingham during the first attempt at this. The company I worked for had a box and it was a ton of fun. Basically like top tier NCAA football. 

 

I’m certainly no McMahon fan (I loathe him as some others do here) but it would be nice to watch competitive football in the Spring. 

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10 hours ago, #34fan said:

The Lingerie League might outlast them all...

 

They already have as they’ve been around more than a decade already and doing well.  Games are actually quite fun to watch if you ever get a chance to go see one.  

 

In 2013, they Lingerie Footballs League (LFL) rebranded using same league initials to be Legends Football League so they would be taken more seriously.

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Oh goodie, another failed football league that will be ignored.

 

If the USFL failed with all their NFL talent on it, then nothing else will succeed while there is still an NFL I realize how he USFL made a “death kill” mistake by trying to go head to head with the NFL, but it failed nonetheless.

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19 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Oh goodie, another failed football league that will be ignored.

 

If the USFL failed with all their NFL talent on it, then nothing else will succeed while there is still an NFL I realize how he USFL made a “death kill” mistake by trying to go head to head with the NFL, but it failed nonetheless.

So if you realize the mistake do you think that league wouldn’t have succeeded if they followed their original growth plan? 

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What might help the AAF, or XFL would be for them to affiliate with the NFL the way baseball does. The Rochester Redwings, for example, are a farm team for the Minnesota Twins. I would have paid a lot more attention to the Birmingham Thunderbolts (or, at least knew they existed) if they were a farm team for the Bills.

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Over/Under on the league folding at week 7?

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The problem is the football just isn’t as good. As an everything Western NY fan it is hard to tune into a game between Memphis and Birmingham with players that can’t even stay on a practice squad and find anything compelling with it.

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The show Arli$$ did a parody episode of the XFL in the season 5 episode (made in 2000) "When Opportunity Knocks" where Kirby became the GM of the L.A. Carnivors in a new spring football league called the Ultimate Football League (UFL) run by a Vince McMahon type charcter named Danny Richter played by Joe Piscopo. Richter tells Arliss that the thing football fans want most are "Big T*ts & Big Hits". He brings two cheerleaders & two players with him to Arliss & the girls shake their boobs while one of the players puts a hard hit on the other guy. Doug Flutie played himself as a client of Arliss & Arliss tries to negotiate a 4 year $91 million contact for him ($11 million signing bonus, 4 years $20 million) with Kirby. Arliss demands too much, like Flutie having veto power on who his head coach is and Kirby says no to Flutie. When Kirby finds out that Piscopo's plans don't include caring about winning & the makeup of the football team he starts to get discouraged. The final straw for Kirby is when Danny Richter shows him his seat at the game. Richter tells Kirby that each fan will be given a remote & if the team is playing lousy they can press the remote. When Richter presses his remote to demontstate, Kirby finds out his seat has a dunk tank under it that opens up when the remote is pressed. That's the final straw for Kirby & he quits & ends up going back to AMM to work for Arliss.

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2 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Over/Under on the league folding at week 7?

 

...maybe they'll auction the ring girls to pay bills......

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5 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Over/Under on the league folding at week 7?

 

The original made it a full season. I think that they play out the season at the very least. Vince McMhaon sold nearly 200 million of his WWE stock to fund this venture. I imagine he calculated enough funds to play out a season and hearing that they have a TV deal means that they at least have some revenue to go with it. 

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9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

They already have as they’ve been around more than a decade already and doing well.  Games are actually quite fun to watch if you ever get a chance to go see one.  

 

Pffffttt… -It's shapely women running around in thong underwear, and bustiers… What kind of man watches stuff like that?

 

(I say with my wife looking over my shoulder.)

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Rumor has it that the Giants will be playing in the XFL this season. What a train wreck those guys are. 

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On 5/6/2019 at 9:27 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

The TV Deals bring no revenue into the XFL.  There are no rights fees being paid by the networks, just like with the AAF.  This is pretty standard until the XFL establishes ratings and sustained interest.  Likely a 2 year deal with an opt out after 1.  XFL likely wont see revenue from TV until year 3 at the earliest unless they have a big first season and have an opt out clause to negotiate rights fees for season 2. 

 

TV exposure is vital to any league starting up, so its a great deal still without the rights fees as the networks have agreed to pay for the production which is expensive at about $400,000 per game.  Had the networks not done that, the XFL would be responsible for paying to produce the content too.  

 

This is exactly correct.  As the article says:

 

"The networks are not paying a rights fee, but ESPN and Fox are picking up production costs, which generally amount to around $400,000 per game, sources said. As part of the deal, the nets will sell ads around the game; the XFL will handle sponsorships at the venue."

 

$400,000 for ~3 hours of national programming is actually pretty cheap.  The play here is that enough people will watch any kind of football to get enough ads to cover the nut.  If they can pedal spots for $25K to $50K the networks will actually make a few bucks on what might otherwise be dead air time.  (I noticed that tonight one of the ESPN's was carrying women's corn hole, so my point about dead air time is already made.)

 

There's a reason SEC games are televised on Saturdays and MAC games on Thursday nights.  You can guess which ones get better ratings and ad revenues.  Nevertheless, somebody will watch the lesser product in the offseason I suppose.

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On 5/6/2019 at 7:58 PM, Golden Goat said:

Will it last longer than AAF?

if they all take the little blue pill.

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12 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The original made it a full season. I think that they play out the season at the very least. Vince McMhaon sold nearly 200 million of his WWE stock to fund this venture. I imagine he calculated enough funds to play out a season and hearing that they have a TV deal means that they at least have some revenue to go with it. 

 

 

The AAF burned through more than that and still couldn't finish the season.  There is no TV money.  McMahon will take huge losses to finish the season and avoiding humiliation.

 

Ego costs money and fools and their money are easily parted.

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5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The AAF burned through more than that and still couldn't finish the season.  There is no TV money.  McMahon will take huge losses to finish the season and avoiding humiliation.

 

Ego costs money and fools and their money are easily parted.

 

The AAF lost 70 million to not finish the season (although they burnt more money on the gambling app they were banking on), the original XFL (Which did have a much better TV than the current production costs only deal they have in this new version) lost 70 million to make it a whole season. I think that the XFL will be designed to make it a whole season no matter what. 

 

However I think much like the original Vince burns through a lot of cash and pulls the plug after the first season. I think Vince hopes to see the XFL gain momentum after the first season and see the losses slow in year two and then maybe the league will break even in year 3 and be profitable in year 4. But I think the XFL 2.0 burns towards the worst case scenario amount of cash and they don’t quite have the success needed to project forward that the losses would slow significantly enough in year 2.

 

Vince might have enough to burn 200 million in one season but not two and I don’t think McMahon wants to leverage his WWE position below majority ownership in order to keep his football fantasies alive. But as I said before I do think that he is leveraged enough to at least last the whole season. 

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On 5/7/2019 at 11:08 AM, TroutDog said:

I lived in Birmingham during the first attempt at this. The company I worked for had a box and it was a ton of fun. Basically like top tier NCAA football. 

 

I’m certainly no McMahon fan (I loathe him as some others do here) but it would be nice to watch competitive football in the Spring. 

 

Will Vince be strapping on the pads and lacing up his cleats?

 

I would pay to see him get his clock cleaned!

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Hopeful.

 

I was hopeful for the AAF, too, but we saw how that turned out....

9 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Dammit, I can't stand Landry Jones.

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12 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

And they already have a QB that was better than anything the AAF put out there.  The play in the AAF wasn't bad but the QB play was putrid.

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