sven233 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Nope, couldn’t. It hurts to say but Marshall Faulk was simply a better version of Thurman Thomas.... No way..... Faulk was a Thurman knockoff. Good, but the original was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 For me, it has to be Barry Sanders. What he could do was simply ridiculous. He left the game too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I love Barry Sanders and I think he is an all time great. The North and South RBs are better imo. It's more demoralizing to have a guy like Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, or Adrian Peterson run through you for 4 quarters. They control the entire game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, sven233 said: No way..... Faulk was a Thurman knockoff. Good, but the original was better. I do wish it were true. He was just slightly better in every way. Sux 33 minutes ago, Needle said: Wow I couldn't disagree more! I just said compared the two with work buddies last week. I made the same statement in reverse. Difference of opinion is all, both were outstanding. I think Faulk has him everywhere. Yards, rings, tds, catching yard passing yards. I hate it. Loved Thurman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Heart says OJ.....Minds says Barry..... Edited March 29, 2019 by Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I do wish it were true. He was just slightly better in every way. Sux I think Faulk has him everywhere. Yards, rings, tds, catching yard passing yards. I hate it. Loved Thurman Different era of football. Forget the yards for a second and tell me if you think Faulk was ever the guy that carried those Rams teams. As a Bills fan, I often felt that Thurman was the most important piece. I think the greatest show on turf was easily the most talented offense ever assembled. Faulk was awesome but his stats are inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Needle said: Different era of football. Forget the yards for a second and tell me if you think Faulk was ever the guy that carried those Rams teams. As a Bills fan, I often felt that Thurman was the most important piece. I think the greatest show on turf was easily the most talented offense ever assembled. Faulk was awesome but his stats are inflated. Hear you but man he was a Thurman knock off yes, but just a little better. Could you you imagine if he stayed with Peyton? He made tge GSoT work. Sort of like Thurman, versatility killed the defense. They’d hammer the defense underneath was it run to him or pass to him, or swing pass. Either way he’s matched up on your Middle linebacker... toast As soon as defenses start cheating up, boom over the top. I cant think of one thing Thurman did well that Faulk didn’t do as well or better. Edited March 29, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Peterman was an exageration but it takes 5 to make a line. It does, but for the majority of Barry’s career that line was substantially better than our Incognito and Wood led O-line that Shady thrives behind. Not to mention that Herman Moore was an all pro WR keeping the safeties honest with help from guys like Perriman. I’m not saying that Barry wasn’t the GOAT... Just that comparing last seasons Bills team to a Lions squad that was routinely in the playoff hunt and had a minimum of 6 probowlers (2all pro) is disingenuous. Their biggest flaw was facing Favre and Reggie White twice a year.... A Packers team that held Sanders to negative yardage in the playoffs and won the game by carrying Moore out of bounds after a clutch catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 There's a significant lack of Sweetness in this thread. Barry and Walter Payton are my picks. And even though he was apparently too boring to ever be associated with these lists, Emmitt's records will probably never be surpassed at this point. Dude may forever have the most rushing yards and TDs, that's got to stand for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I don't understand why Jim Brown loses points just because he played against smaller defenses. That was part of him being so amazing. Someone his size wasn't supposed to be that fast and athletic. You compare athletes against other athletes of their age. Jordan wouldn't be Jordan playing in today's NBA. Barry wouldn't be Barry in today's NFL. That doesn't diminish their greatness. They were generational talents. Greats. But in my opinion, no running back dominated his era like Jim Brown. Bo Jackson could've been... we were all robbed of his greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 hours ago, sven233 said: Depends on what you're looking for. Barry Sanders was the best that I saw, but you could make arguments from Jim Brown, OJ, Walter Payton, Bo Jackson or a bunch of other guys. You could make a great argument for Thurman with the way he could run it, catch it, and block. Thurman might be the best all around back ever. Just depends on what you want in your RB. ^^^^^This. Thurm was an amazing pass catcher on top of everything else, and led the league in combined yards from scrimmage seemingly his entire career as a result. I agree that it’s not an easy answer when you stop to consider how many dimensions your RB should have in order to be considered best ever. Barry always seems to be a consensus choice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Loved Thurm, but he wasn't even the best back in BILLS history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, Needle said: I love Barry Sanders and I think he is an all time great. The North and South RBs are better imo. It's more demoralizing to have a guy like Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, or Adrian Peterson run through you for 4 quarters. They control the entire game It's not just more demoralizing, it's more productive. I've been eviscerated by good friends for this opinion but I had a problem with Sanders dancing behind the line. He put the Lions into long down and distance way too often for me. His balance and agility were beyond compare, no doubt an all-time great talent, just not my top RB for that reason. I can't go with Jim Brown simply because I never saw him play. By all accounts he's a great choice, maybe the best. OJ is at the top of my list and Earl and Bo get honorable mentions because they were freakishly dominating but I'll go with Sweetness. A remarkable combination of everything you want in a RB. He did it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Walter Payton and it’s not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Roch Jim said: JIm Brown---hands down. Led the league in rushing 8 of his 9 years. Averaged 100 yards a game. Not flashy like Barry just brutally effective This is such an ill informed opinion. People that say Jim Brown are really quite ignorant of the truth. Take 1958. He led the league in rushing by quite a bit, but he led the league in carries by an absurd amount. He had more than twice as many carries as the guy that finished 3rd in rush yards that year. More importantly, and we have to be real here, that season he was basically the ONLY black running back. Everyone else at the top of the leaderboard was a white guy. Come on guys. He was absolutely dominant against the people he was playing against, but to consider him the best all time is to just completely ignore the conditions he played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, somnus00 said: Jordan wouldn't be Jordan playing in today's NBA. Eh, I definitely don't agree with this. The generational gap with Jordan isn't anything like it is with Brown. Peak MJ would still dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Can't really decide between - Payton Brown O.J. Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, somnus00 said: I don't understand why Jim Brown loses points just because he played against smaller defenses. That was part of him being so amazing. Someone his size wasn't supposed to be that fast and athletic. You compare athletes against other athletes of their age. Jordan wouldn't be Jordan playing in today's NBA. Barry wouldn't be Barry in today's NFL. That doesn't diminish their greatness. They were generational talents. Greats. But in my opinion, no running back dominated his era like Jim Brown. Bo Jackson could've been... we were all robbed of his greatness. Jordan would be better. The NBA was significantly tougher and more violent defensively in Jordan's day. He would absolutely dominate today's NBA. Sanders would as well imo. His game translates. Athletically he'd be fine. Plus the difference between the 60s NFL when Brown played and the 90s NFL >> the 90s NFL and today's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Barry's the best I ever saw. Never saw Brown play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) There is no definitive greatest all time running back the way Brady and Rice are the definitive greatest all time quarterback and receiver, respectively. That is the answer. You could make a strong case for Brown, Payton or Sanders and not be right or wrong. Edited March 29, 2019 by metzelaars_lives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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