mrags Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Dude? A historic and storied venue? Common man. Sure, we love it, but it's a pile of concrete. Wrigley is historic and storied, Fenway, Lambeau, Dodger. That's about all I can come up with. Shhhhh!!!!! its historic to cover yourself in ketchup and mustard and jump through a flaming plastic table from Walmart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, mrags said: K pal. Keep thinking your super sweet. I know, your drunk uncle probably still tells stories of how they used to bring in grills and kegs of beer into the Rockpile as long as you bought a ticket for them. I wonder how how he would have felt about them moving back dowtown now. I wonder how he felt when they moved to OP in the first place. Wtf is your issue? I don't want a domed stadium downtown. You do. You fasley accuse me of being 24( I wish). Who cares? Go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm not your bub, guy! k komrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Green Bay is Lambeau. KC? it's an updated Rich. Nothing iconic or historic about it. Dude...if you can't agree with the fact that it IS a storied venue, then you've never heard a story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: k komrad I'm not your Komrad, bugeois! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, BuffAlone said: Dude...if you can't agree with the fact that it IS a storied venue, then you've never heard a story Pal, you are overreacting. It's a pile of concrete destined for demolition. It's storied to you. It isn't storied. I'm sorry that you don't get the nuance there. 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm not your Komrad, bugeois! k Gugny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: k Gugny I'm not your Gugny, Fergy! Edited June 21, 2019 by Joe in Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: I'm not your Gugny, Fergy! K Mr Ags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Cripple Creek said: Pal, you are overreacting. It's a pile of concrete destined for demolition. It's storied to you. It isn't storied. I'm sorry that you don't get the nuance there. k Gugny Pal, how many games, played in that stadium, made you a life long Bills fan? If none, then you are younger than most. Thats not a problem...but please kids, let the adults talk for awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: K Mr Ags I'm not your mrags, mead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Pal, how many games, played in that stadium, made you a life long Bills fan? If none, then you are younger than most. Thats not a problem...but please kids, let the adults talk for awhile I'm old enough to be your daddy you snot nosed brat. Except none of my kids ever had the audacity to behave like you have. Of course they never butcher the mother tongue like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Is this a discussion on potential stadiums or a “yo momma” roast? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm not your mrags, mead! So, we're sinking that low eh Exiled? Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Is this a discussion on potential stadiums or a “yo momma” roast? Thank you. I'm pulling in my wings before I get slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: So, we're sinking that low eh Exiled? Don't make me powerbomb you into a table while lecturing you on lock water levels, son Edited June 22, 2019 by Joe in Winslow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: gimme a break. It's BUFFALO IN DECEMBER!! Its part of ALL OF US. NFL included! If that's the case, then I want an air cooled stadium in Miami until December of every year. And hot cheese in Green Bay every winter. And maybe take Mile High stadium down hill 3 thousand feet while your at it?? P.S. Promo.....if you got seasons for sale, let me know. I'll be more than happy to take them off your hands Why buy my seasons when there are PLENTY of December tickets available? Not exactly a rush of people wanting to sit and freeze. Edited June 22, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I'm old enough to be your daddy you snot nosed brat. Except none of my kids ever had the audacity to behave like you have. Of course they never butcher the mother tongue like you do. Wow...what a dick you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Dude? A historic and storied venue? Common man. Sure, we love it, but it's a pile of concrete. Wrigley is historic and storied, Fenway, Lambeau, Dodger. That's about all I can come up with. Dodger? Historic? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: Dodger? Historic? No. I know, I was grasping for another. I hates them bums too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, mrags said: We'll all see within a few years (7years or less) I imagine. Time will tell. In the meantime, if you need me to load your smoker, grill and a few coolers in my vehicle, just let me know. I got you, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: In the meantime, if you need me to load your smoker, grill and a few coolers in my vehicle, just let me know. I got you, bro. Typical way you acquire assets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Typical way you acquire assets Slap fight! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Slap fight! I'll slap him so hard, YOU'LL fall down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Lot's of "Friday Night" posts. I think those of us in the new stadium crowd understand that NEF is "historic" for Bills fans. It's not some landmark that out of towners are gonna demand to see. Based on the nostalgia angle, no team would ever build a new stadium. I get it. People love the stadium and have incredible memories in OP. But the benefit of a new stadium in Buffalo would outweigh nostalgia. Even minor things like the altered skyline would be a good thing for the city. I have no doubt that Pegs WILL build a new stadium, so it's probably best to get on board. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Wtf is your issue? I don't want a domed stadium downtown. You do. You fasley accuse me of being 24( I wish). Who cares? Go away K pal 27 minutes ago, Gugny said: In the meantime, if you need me to load your smoker, grill and a few coolers in my vehicle, just let me know. I got you, bro. Rofl 54 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: K Mr Ags I think I’ll stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 My dad could beat up your dad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I do not ever see a downtown stadium to be doable Too much traffic , congestion , not enough outlets Leave it in the burbs 16 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: My dad could beat up your dad I doubt that my dad was a biker! ? Lmaooo The ultimate pissing contest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I do not ever see a downtown stadium to be doable Too much traffic , congestion , not enough outlets Leave it in the burbs I doubt that my dad was a biker! ? Lmaooo The ultimate pissing contest! How do other bigger cities with downtown stadiums do it? And you do know that there are backups leaving Orchard Park too? Edited June 22, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) I have thought for a long time that in order to get government money to help build whatever Pegula is going to do, it would need to be for a multi-use domed venue in Buffalo somewhere. Rehabbing New Era just won't provide enough tax revenue to justify the investment. If they build a new stadium downtown it will spur additional economic investment in the area and generate more revenue for everyone. Whether that is the best solution from a fan experience or a Bill's tradition point of view I think is irrelevant. If investors (including government) are going to pony up 100's of millions of dollars, they are going to expect some serious return on their investment. Adding on to New Era stadium in Orchard Park that will be used 10 times a year with no surrounding economic development was never going to be the answer. At the end of the day, there is simply more money to be made with a new downtown, domed, multi-use stadium. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just the way it is. Edited June 22, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: How do other bigger cities with downtown stadiums do it? They have better grid systems I would suppose Buffalo was designed with a European street system by the elicott brothers, with a radical street system unlike most cities in America It was designed to be accessed easily through park systems and walking and biking etc a beautifully designed city But not for traffic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Buffalo doesn't need to add itself to a list that includes San Diego, Saint Louis and Oakland Yes Saint Louis who built the stadium for the team and then they left when the team found a sweetheart deal.. I think the Pegulas are committed to Buffalo but up to a point ... If they install a new downtown stadium with PSLs and restrictions on tailgating like the baby sit lot it is possible that sales will go down a lot with most of those buying official ticket sellers who sell to opposing fans. With ticket sales and merchandise sales down how long past lease escape clause will they stay? This is as realistic as the pie in the sky scenarios some are calling downtown stadium. "Try it you may like it. Mikey likes it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I have thought for a long time that in order to get government money to help build whatever Pegula is going to do, it would need to be for a multi-use domed venue in Buffalo somewhere. Rehabbing New Era just won't provide enough tax revenue to justify the investment. If they build a new stadium downtown it will spur additional economic investment in the area and generate more revenue for everyone. Whether that is the best solution from a fan experience or a Bill's tradition point of view I think is irrelevant. If investors (including government) are going to pony up 100's of millions of dollars, they are going to expect some serious return on their investment. Adding on to New Era stadium in Orchard Park that will be used 10 times a year with no surrounding economic development was never going to be the answer. At the end of the day, there is simply more money to be made with a new downtown, domed, multi-use stadium. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just the way it is. How much funding does Buffalo provide now? Erie County does funding and IF stadium is moved downtown Erie County will not be pitching in much. The problem here many of the suburb tax payers do not see funding Buffalo as a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I have thought for a long time that in order to get government money to help build whatever Pegula is going to do, it would need to be for a multi-use domed venue in Buffalo somewhere. Rehabbing New Era just won't provide enough tax revenue to justify the investment. If they build a new stadium downtown it will spur additional economic investment in the area and generate more revenue for everyone. Whether that is the best solution from a fan experience or a Bill's tradition point of view I think is irrelevant. If investors (including government) are going to pony up 100's of millions of dollars, they are going to expect some serious return on their investment. Adding on to New Era stadium in Orchard Park that will be used 10 times a year with no surrounding economic development was never going to be the answer. At the end of the day, there is simply more money to be made with a new downtown, domed, multi-use stadium. Not saying it's good or bad, it's just the way it is. Watch the west side, A in the know poster said it b4 he was banned because he knew the location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes Saint Louis who built the stadium for the team and then they left when the team found a sweetheart deal.. I think the Pegulas are committed to Buffalo but up to a point ... If they install a new downtown stadium with PSLs and restrictions on tailgating like the baby sit lot it is possible that sales will go down a lot with most of those buying official ticket sellers who sell to opposing fans. With ticket sales and merchandise sales down how long past lease escape clause will they stay? This is as realistic as the pie in the sky scenarios some are calling downtown stadium. "Try it you may like it. Mikey likes it". Pegulas are multi billionaires that love sports and particularly love sports in Buffalo. Traditional logic doesn’t apply. And as Bills fans, we’re very fortunate for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes Saint Louis who built the stadium for the team and then they left when the team found a sweetheart deal.. I think the Pegulas are committed to Buffalo but up to a point ... If they install a new downtown stadium with PSLs and restrictions on tailgating like the baby sit lot it is possible that sales will go down a lot with most of those buying official ticket sellers who sell to opposing fans. With ticket sales and merchandise sales down how long past lease escape clause will they stay? This is as realistic as the pie in the sky scenarios some are calling downtown stadium. "Try it you may like it. Mikey likes it". Well this is an anti-stadium take... Let's keep old stuff because.... Folks it's time to move on from Rich/Ralph/New Era. As a Rochestarian, I say grab the money. Rochester is a 1+ million metro that can not attract major acts because of it's antiquated arena. The War Memorial/ Blue Cross arena is cooked as a major attraction location. As jealous as I would be to see a new $1b arena in Buffalo, I want the Buffalo Bills to have the best facilities possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Limeaid said: How much funding does Buffalo provide now? Erie County does funding and IF stadium is moved downtown Erie County will not be pitching in much. The problem here many of the suburb tax payers do not see funding Buffalo as a priority. I just don't see anyone, or any combination or entities, dropping $500 MM plus on a venue that will be used at most 12 times a year. I just don't think it's feasible. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, mrags said: K pal Rofl I think I’ll stay Dude.....you are a scumbag. What a douche.pal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Dude.....you are a scumbag. What a douche.pal... K pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: My dad could beat up your dad What's your dad's weight class? I think my dad could take yours. He's a young 60. 1 minute ago, mrags said: K pal I've been in and out this thread. What the hell did you do? How does stadium talk evolve into scumbaggery lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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