BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Back to the point of this thread....I'm staying with my original opinion that was started in a previous thread.... 1) Quinnen Williams 2) Nick Bosa 3) Ed Oliver 4)Josh Allen 5)Devin White 6)Byron Murphy 7)Jaylon Ferguson 8)Christian Wilkins 9)Jawaan Taylor 10)Greedy Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I do not understand Brown or Little in top 9. 1st round yes, top 9 no. Did you read my disclaimer, comrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Hahahahaha. Nope. I’m not “getting that”. He’s not high character. It’s been reported that he’s high maintenence and I question his heart at the end of the season. It seeed like he was milking his injured knee which let his teammates down. He’s not a Beane guy. I truly believe that. Wtf "reports" are you seeing? Haha haha. Show me one that says that, I'll show you 5 that say otherwise. High maintenance...you crack me up. I can't fix what is broken with you. He's far from the first guy to sit out bowl games for fear of injury Edited March 16, 2019 by BuffAlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Wtf "reports" are you seeing? Haha haha. Show me one that says that, I'll show you 5 that say otherwise. High maintenance...you crack me up. I can't fix what is broken with you. Here ya go, chief: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-potential-top-five-pick-ed-oliver-seen-as-high-maintenance/ar-BBPTlhe Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, whorlnut said: Here ya go, chief: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-potential-top-five-pick-ed-oliver-seen-as-high-maintenance/ar-BBPTlhe Fixed. Im Native American. Don't call me chief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Donald threw up 35 reps at the combine. How many did Oliver do? See ya after you Google it.... I think they should do squats at the combine, especially for linemen. Leg power is where most of the power is generated in the body. Not disregarding the bench though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, NewDayBills said: I think they should do squats at the combine, especially for linemen. Leg power is where most of the power is generated in the body. Not disregarding the bench though. I’ve said this as well. Completely agree. Who gives a crap about pressing 225? Leg drive is where it’s at. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I’ve said this as well. Completely agree. Who gives a crap about pressing 225? Leg drive is where it’s at. Aaron Donald squats 500+ lbs. VERY Impressive. Ed Oliver? 650+. Take it for what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Donald had a 32" vertical. 4.68 40 time Oliver had a 36" vertical.40 time pending pro day. His legs, size, production, nasty, all on par with Donald. His stock ain't dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Donald had a 32" vertical. 4.68 40 time Oliver had a 36" vertical.40 time pending pro day. His legs, size, production, nasty, all on par with Donald. His stock ain't dropped It’s dropped. He was considered a top three pick (if not first overall) in the college preseason. Now? Not so much. BTW, I showed you proof that people are saying he’s high maintenance. Still waiting on your 5 saying he’s not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, whorlnut said: It’s dropped. He was considered a top three pick (if not first overall) in the college preseason. Now? Not so much. BTW, I showed you proof that people are saying he’s high maintenance. Still waiting on your 5 saying he’s not... I''ll be honest. I'm not the high tech kid you seem to be. I'll write down every single link by hand and be back to you shortly. Still waiting on your opinion that his stock is lower than wilkins' tho. So in the meantime, we both do work and meet back here, agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, BuffAlone said: I''ll be honest. I'm not the high tech kid you seem to be. I'll write down every single link by hand and be back to you shortly. Still waiting on your opinion that his stock is lower than wilkins' tho. So in the meantime, we both do work and meet back here, agreed? Kid? Hahah. Hilarious. I ever said he was rated higher than Oliver. I just think McD goes with the process guy over the guy with maintenance issues. Like it or not (I’m assuming not), Beane loves character, which Wilkins has in spades. That’s a big deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, wppete said: Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Josh Allen Rashan Gary Ed Oliver Jawaan Taylor Montez Sweat DK Metcalf TJ Hockenson Devin White I have a feeling that one of the top 5 will drop to us. I am really hoping there is a run on QBs in the top 10. 3 QBs in the top 10 would be awesome. I have a feeling White will fall to us...and I am curious to see what would do if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: Kid? Hahah. Hilarious. I ever said he was rated higher than Oliver. I just think McD goes with the process guy over the guy with maintenance issues. Like it or not (I’m assuming not), Beane loves character, which Wilkins has in spades. That’s a big deal. Of course it is. We can talk all night about who's dropping. Some say yes, some say no. See you on the flip side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: I have a feeling White will fall to us...and I am curious to see what would do if that were the case. There aren't many players I would be unhappy with in top 15. There are players I like more than others but its not night and day and you could make an argument for drafting almost all the players we have been discussing in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I have a feeling White will fall to us...and I am curious to see what would do if that were the case. Just don’t see us going linebacker with Milano and Edmunds in the fold. Has to be DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Pretty much this thread should be QBs excluded and if Q Williams, Allen and Bosa don't drop....who do you want the Bills to draft. I think anyone beyond those 3 could be there at 9. Edited March 17, 2019 by Magnum Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I have a feeling White will fall to us...and I am curious to see what would do if that were the case. Great question. I think we draft him if he is there. Can’t pass on talent like that. BPA. White. Edmunds, Milano. Set for years at LB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, whorlnut said: It’s dropped. He was considered a top three pick (if not first overall) in the college preseason. Now? Not so much. BTW, I showed you proof that people are saying he’s high maintenance. Still waiting on your 5 saying he’s not... It's because Houston didn't use him as a 3 tech. His sack and tackle numbers dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: I think a top player will fall too. All it takes is a few qbs and a team taking a chance on DK Metcalf or a cornerback. I don’t want Ed Oliver. Not in the least. His measurable are a disappointment, he has a history of injuries, and he might have coaching issues. I would be very wary of his numbers. He might have taken advantage of weaker competition. I think you could be disappointed this year. It makes sense at a position of need. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, wppete said: I think you could be disappointed this year. It makes sense at a position of need. Nah. One of 30 visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, whorlnut said: It’s dropped. He was considered a top three pick (if not first overall) in the college preseason. Now? Not so much. BTW, I showed you proof that people are saying he’s high maintenance. Still waiting on your 5 saying he’s not... Here's a few... https://www-sbnation-com.cdn.ampproject.org https://sports-yahoo-com.ven.ampproject.org https://www.Houston chronicle-com.cdn.ampproject.org https://www-ganggreennation-com.cdn.ampproject.org https://www-passports-com.cdn.ampproject.org https://www.papercitymag.com Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Just don’t see us going linebacker with Milano and Edmunds in the fold. Has to be DT. I could see them drafting White and moving Edmunds to OLB where they could use his height and speed in more blitz situations. That could help both pass rush and run D with one pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Nah. One of 30 visits. There's a thread started from some of your peers...or the "some people" you called them about Oliver. You should check it out. Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffAlone said: For each their own man. But I'll depart by saying this....top competition, 53 TFL, a knee sprain, and one fit on the sideline in a game that he wasn't even dressed for. Was once considered a top 5 pick, bigger than Aaron Donald, and a nasty disposition to go with all of that. We'd be lucky to have him Bigger is not always better. (See also Marcel Dareus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchiseneedsme Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Nick Bosa TJ Hockenson Trade for Kuechly and Mccaffrey Ed Oliver Josh Allen Jonah Williams Noah Fant Quinnen Williams Jawaan Taylor Greg Little Why would you put this trade in there? I would love Maccaffrey with J Allen, but why would you think this is a possibility. He was IMO the most versatile player in the NFL last year. No way he is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Josh Allen Ed Oliver Devin White Jawaan Taylor Josh Jacobs Christian Wilkins Tie: Montez Sweat and Andre Dilliard Edited March 17, 2019 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, whorlnut said: Then why has he fallen so far in many people’s eyes? That doesn’t just happen. Like I said, too many of you are still buying the hype when he considered a top 5 pick. He’s not anymore. That should tell you something. Too many flags there for me to ignore. Oliver has been a college prima donna for a long time. He'll take his big fat stacks of cash and underperform. Edited March 17, 2019 by JohninMinn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Did you read my disclaimer, comrade? Maybe you did not read.....you put them in your top 9, why do you think they belong in your top 9? I did not ask why draft them at 9 which is your disclaimer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Maybe you did not read.....you put them in your top 9, why do you think they belong in your top 9? I did not ask why draft them at 9 which is your disclaimer. I'm saying we should trade down for Fant and Brown buddy. I think you missed that part but I understand why you'd be upset if I suggested we take them at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Bigger is not always better. (See also Marcel Dareus) Yes I'm aware. That has nothing to do with my comparison to Donald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Franchiseneedsme said: Why would you put this trade in there? I would love Maccaffrey with J Allen, but why would you think this is a possibility. He was IMO the most versatile player in the NFL last year. No way he is available Because almost any player is available in todays NFL... Panthers are tight with us so we would have the best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 12 hours ago, NewDayBills said: DISCLAIMER: Not all of these players would be wise to take at 9. At 7 you will start to see a drop off in talent in which case I would desire to trade down if necessary. 1.) Nick Bosa 2.) Quinnen William's 3.) Josh Allen 4.) Ed Oliver 5.) Devin White 6.) Jawaan Taylor 7.) Noah Fant 8.) Marquise Brown 9.) Greg Little I got Little with 2nd rd grade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 hours ago, whorlnut said: Kid? Hahah. Hilarious. I ever said he was rated higher than Oliver. I just think McD goes with the process guy over the guy with maintenance issues. Like it or not (I’m assuming not), Beane loves character, which Wilkins has in spades. That’s a big deal. Every GM says they value character, but most don't always walk that talk. Beane was ready to trade for Antonio Brown. He's about as big of a character problem as you can find in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Virgil said: How is Fant ahead of Hockenson in more of the rankings I’m seeing? Because the underwear Olympics has a effect on people's judgement of football talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Wonder how high the office has greedy ranked? I’d love to have the no fly zone in buffalo. But if white does manage to fall to us look out for our lb core! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, whorlnut said: Then why has he fallen so far in many people’s eyes? That doesn’t just happen. Like I said, too many of you are still buying the hype when he considered a top 5 pick. He’s not anymore. That should tell you something. Too many flags there for me to ignore. Over analysis, plain and simple. When you give scouts multiple years of a guy being hyped as a top pick they'll eventually find something to complain about. There's at least one prospect this happens to every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quincy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 J. Allen 2 Q. Williams 3 N. Bosa 4 D. White 5 C. Wilkins 6 T. J. Hockenson 7 E. Oliver 8 G. Bradbury 9 J. Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochester rob Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Virgil said: How is Fant ahead of Hockenson in more of the rankings I’m seeing? This plus almost all have Hock in the top nine but nobody wants us to take him at nine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 19 hours ago, wppete said: Quinnen Williams Nick Bosa Josh Allen Rashan Gary Ed Oliver Jawaan Taylor Montez Sweat DK Metcalf TJ Hockenson Devin White I have a feeling that one of the top 5 will drop to us. I am really hoping there is a run on QBs in the top 10. 3 QBs in the top 10 would be awesome. 7 QBs and a punter would be fine as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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