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I can't stop thinking that I want the Bills to draft Hock at the 9th spot.    I know that's high for a TE but what a fantastic offensive addition he'd be for our young QB.

 

 

 

 

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He’s a terrific prospect no doubt but this is as deep a TE class as has been around in awhile a really good probably middle first round pick in other years will be there in the second 

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I think its a real possibility and I would be excited about it.

 

I will be excited about a number of guys at 9, we are going to get a great prospect.  I started a thread that I do NOT think it will be a DT at 9 and expect an EDGE rusher or possibly Hockenson.  

 

My preference would be to trade down of course, then grab either TJ or Fant if they go TE, but if they don't find a trade partner then I think TJ is someone that will be in play at 9.  

 

If we do not go TE early, then I think someone like Jamie Oliver will be a target in rounds 3 or 4.  

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I want the best TE in the draft. I’m all in for it at 9 or any pick that requires what I just said. Im tired of these lower mid tier TEs. In Bills history, we have never had a truly elite TE. I’m talking Kelce, Ertz, Kittle level. Not A guy like Pete Metzalars that was a great BILLS tight end...I want a guy that is great in relation to the rest of the NFL. Not just the C list guys in Bills history. Go out and get the top TE. I don’t mind it at 9.

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Best argument I have is this: when was the last time that a top-10 TE went on to have a great career?

 

Matter of fact, when was the last time that a 1st-round TE went on to have a great career?

 

Moreover, who are the best TEs in football in the last half-decade? How many of them were 1st-round picks, let alone top-10 picks?

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I do like Hockenson, but chances are, we won't be drafting in the top-10 again anytime soon. If we pass on an OT prospect, we may not have the chance at a top one for a long time. There'll always be top TEs in the mid-late 1st.

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He's a nice shiny toy, and I wouldn't complain, but if the Bills can get a stud DT who can improve their run D, it would put their D into elite territory.

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Because the odds are good there will be a far better prospect available at that pick. 

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I wouldnt hate it, but the value doesnt quite line up for me.  If the FO thinks he can be a perannial ProBowler then so be it.  But that is what I expect from a top 10 pick. (He doesnt have to actually make the PB just play at that level) 

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Ugh I cant stand the womans voice on the highlights.

 

Makes me cringe.

 

 

I would love this guy to become a Buffalo Bill

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6 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Trade back and take him later and get another 2nd. 

I'd love that but I'm not sure how long he's going to last.

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I absolutely will not be upset if it is Hock....would still prefer him in a trade down.

 

We have addressed so many needs in free agency and already had a lot of the roster already under contract........this might actually make sense.

 

I would not want to do it at 9 though

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Why not: there is a higher rated player on the draft board.  If he is closely rated to a player above, then make the pick.  I suspect that will not be the case as a top rated DT will drop to 9.

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I won’t change your mind bc I would be good with it. He’d be Allen’s version of Greg Olsen.

 

i want them to draft talent on offense. I believe they can coach defense well enough to get production out of middling talents that work hard.

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Just say no to a TE at 9. He may be a solid player eventually but I want more than just solid with a top 10 pick. I bet he won’t go top 15 either

 

We desperately need help on the d-line and that is by far the strength of where we are picking. Just take Ed Oliver and let him wreak havoc on opposing QBs

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1 minute ago, Dkollidas said:

I won’t change your mind bc I would be good with it. He’d be Allen’s version of Greg Olsen.

 

i want them to draft talent on offense. I believe they can coach defense well enough to get production out of middling talents that work hard.

The thing is its not even middling talent.....this D is pretty much set and we would have 9 more picks.....

 

We really set this D up last year getting Edmunds, Taron Johnson, finding Wallace, etc.

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Best argument I have is this: when was the last time that a top-10 TE went on to have a great career?

 

Matter of fact, when was the last time that a 1st-round TE went on to have a great career?

 

Moreover, who are the best TEs in football in the last half-decade? How many of them were 1st-round picks, let alone top-10 picks?

I think it’s more about the way teams value the position. I think each team needs to look at their own situation and make those decision. There have been good TEs taken in round 1 in the last 15 years but Most of the picks in round 1 are the same few positions. That doesn’t have to be wrong it’s just how it is.

 

I want the best TE. If we get that guy in round 2, then great. Im just a little worried that if we wait, this guy won’t still be there. 9 is high I understand but if you really love the player, take him. I don’t subscribe to just taking the best player regardless of position. I think that’s the dumbest thing humanly possible. That’s how you end up with C.J. Spiller even though you already had Lynch and Fred Jackson. If the best player left at 9 is a QB are we taking him? We need a TE bad and the top guy probably won’t last past 20. If we move back in round 1 and he’s still there, great. If we wait until round 2 and he’s gone I’m going to be upset. Now if the Bills think Fant is the best TE or the Alabama kid...fine. Get the one that they feel is the best for Dabol. If it’s at 9, I’m good. I don’t expect that to be the Bills thinking though.

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Just now, Bangarang said:

Just say no to a TE at 9. He may be a solid player eventually but I want more than just solid with a top 10 pick.

 

We desperately need help on the d-line and that is by far the strength of where we are picking. Just take Ed Oliver and let him wreak havoc on opposing QBs

I am a trade down guy.....but it is a good bet that Hock is gonna be more then just a "solid" player

 

He does everything you are looking for in a go to TE.....he also blocks

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I would love it but I don't think it happens.  The draft is deep at TE so they will probably target one later.  I see them go DE or DT.  Maybe OT

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19 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

You can trade back and get him

 

Not sure about that. One of the mock draft analysts (I think Daniel Jeremiah) has him as the #5 prospect now.

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