YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, realtruelove said: Mike Mayock is smarter than most GMs in this league. LOL! We'll see shortly that that's not true. It's easy to make draft predictions and a whole other beast entirely to have your ass on the line for actually making those selections. Mayock's career dealing with the NFL will likely end with the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 For years the Raiders have handed out horrible contracts which cascade leaguewide. Brown is a below-average LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This might explain how it got done so quickly- Rosenhaus has been talking to the Raiders all weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Offer Matt Paradis a 4 year $62 million contract and be done with it. That’s a bad idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I applaud what the raiders are doing bills fans would be jumping for joy if both of those signings were coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: This might explain how it got done so quickly- Rosenhaus has been talking to the Raiders all weekend. Between agents making other deals and players talking to each other (Harper in MLB already came out and said he will recruit Trout to the Phillies), it's all ways teams can get info out about interest in players. Raiders this weekend while discussing AB mention interest in another client of the agents and he relays a message back to his client and a deal can be thrown together in minutes once both sides are known to be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, papazoid said: I applaud what the raiders are doing bills fans would be jumping for joy if both of those signings were coming here Not this Bills fan. And the Raiders will still be terrible as they still have no defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 invest heavily in the O line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, papazoid said: invest heavily in the O line They just traded away a good guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bangarang said: That’s a bad idea To much money, money was made for spending. Why not go cheap and go 6-10 again right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Glad we have Beane as the GM. Getting players is important, but getting players with cap friendly contacts is how you sustain success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: To much money, money was made for spending. Why not go cheap and go 6-10 again right? Because our only options are to give insanely stupid contracts or be cheap and suck? Have you even bothered to look at the contracts for the rest of the centers? If you did, you’d realize paying one $15.5 mil a year is stupid. Edited March 11, 2019 by Bangarang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, billspro said: Glad we have Beane as the GM. Getting players is important, but getting players with cap friendly contacts is how you sustain success. And finding guys that are good to agree to cap friendly contracts is like finding a Unicorn or Bigfoot........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rico said: Mike Mayock having fun with his new job. He must have a lot of experience as GM on Madden. Was still a few seasons to early to trade Mack though - right around 29 is the time they need to go on Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Was still a few seasons to early to trade Mack though - right around 29 is the time they need to go on Madden I saw somewhere that they tried to make the Brown trade on Maddon and the game rejected it...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Because our only options are to give insanely stupid contracts or be cheap and suck? Have you even bothered to look at the contracts for the rest of the centers? If you did, you’d realize paying one $15.5 mil a year is stupid. Those are your options pick one or the other. You cannot win a Superbowl with coupons and a dollar menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 ***** that is a lot of money. I hate the Raiders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: And finding guys that are good to agree to cap friendly contracts is like finding a Unicorn or Bigfoot........... Wow you have not been paying attention tot he Bills then. We've brought in plenty of solid to great players ont he cheap. Yes we hit a few duds in there, but our secondary alone was re-built on the cheap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: I saw somewhere that they tried to make the Brown trade on Maddon and the game rejected it...... Ha the last couple years I drafted Brown and picked up Tyreek - I'm a Hill guy all the way now. On a side note my strong armed QB turned John Ross into a Hall of Famer - along with my 6'7" 280 pound TE who runs a 4.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cage Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I mean crazy that the Raiders could get this contract sorted out in 15 mins... ? I thought they weren't allowed to talk $$, just interest and parameters. This is pretty specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This will go down as one of the biggest FA mistakes in 2 years when he is cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Wow! That is insane. This guy is a 7th round pick from 2015 that has had ONE good year. And that good year came playing for Brady (who gets the ball out very quick) and Dante Scarnecchia (by far the best o line coach in the NFL). New England also has some TE’s who are very good blockers. Plus they just drafted a guy at #15 last year who I thought was supposed to be their long term LT? Edited March 11, 2019 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 And just like that, the Pats got a third round comp pick next year. Dammit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Just Joshin' said: This will go down as one of the biggest FA mistakes in 2 years when he is cut. Kind of reminds me of Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: And finding guys that are good to agree to cap friendly contracts is like finding a Unicorn or Bigfoot........... No you just need to scout well so you are paying someone on the upswing of their career and not the downswing. See Hyde and Poyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, dpberr said: 1. He's not *that* good. 2. Raiders are booking their rooms in cap purgatory in Las Vegas Year #2. I foresee them hoodwinking all their new fans into season tickets and PSLs with a dazzling year one in the new stadium and then having to tear it all down shortly thereafter. Obviously the Raiders didn't do their homework. Tackles that leave NE grossly underperform. Brady has the quickest release in football on 3 step drops. Brown will be required to protect Carr on 7 step drops. This will not end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Wow you have not been paying attention tot he Bills then. We've brought in plenty of solid to great players ont he cheap. Yes we hit a few duds in there, but our secondary alone was re-built on the cheap Are where has that gotten the Bill's? Those guys were solid players, but not game changers. 1 minute ago, billspro said: No you just need to scout well so you are paying someone on the upswing of their career and not the downswing. See Hyde and Poyer. 2 decent players that got the Bill's where? They had great first years here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Jasovon said: Teams continue to think that it's the players on that New England team that make it successful. This is yet another ex Patriot that will be mediocre to poor on a new team. Plus withthat money paid - he become a probable 3rd round comp pick for NE next year. Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, cage said: Kind of reminds me of Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Are where has that gotten the Bill's? Those guys were solid players, but not game changers. 2 decent players that got the Bill's where? They had great first years here OK if you think so... should we jump back in way back machine a discuss all the big money FA that have brought us all those championships Edited March 11, 2019 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: And just like that, the Pats got a third round comp pick next year. Dammit!! I was thinking the same thing lol, just a ridiculous contract for the raiders. Mayock doesn’t seem like a very good negotiator. “I’ll just sign a few guys for max contracts and call it a day” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Are where has that gotten the Bill's? Those guys were solid players, but not game changers. 2 decent players that got the Bill's where? They had great first years here If you pay attention to how the good teams are built you can see the Bills following that model. Teams that spend big in free agency fail at a very high percentage. Spend smart in free agency and build through the draft. That is how you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: Plus withthat money paid - he become a probable 3rd round comp pick for NE next year. Idiots everyone just keeps helping the Patriots. Absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Those are your options pick one or the other. You cannot win a Superbowl with coupons and a dollar menu. Except, those aren’t the only options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, papazoid said: I applaud what the raiders are doing bills fans would be jumping for joy if both of those signings were coming here Not at that price - I wouldn’t mind either or both players, but when you way overpay for what will become a lack of production- the joy leaves quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Except, those aren’t the only options. You can't steak a Steak on the McDonalds $1 menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I know it's PFF and I didn't catch much of the Cheaters last year, but I thought he had a better season than 32nd best? If true, or even close, that's an even dumber contract than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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