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1 hour ago, Nanker said:

Wasn’t he something like 15 and the woman he pummeled was fighting with his mama?

Think he’s been okay since then though. 

 

1 hour ago, Pete said:

yep.   I believe in second chances, especially when you were 15.  And I don't believe in double jeopardy.  Why should you be punished for something you did when you were 15, and already paid a price? 

 

I think that was Simmons. But yes the NFL is full of it. 

 

Fergusons ban is even dumber. A simple battery at a McDonalds or something. 

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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

I think that was Simmons. But yes the NFL is full of it. 

 

Fergusons ban is even dumber. A simple battery at a McDonalds or something. 

He got in a fight at McDs in HS. Sometimes I think the nfl does things just for show. Banning a guy from the combine for that seems a bit over the top 

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1 hour ago, Nanker said:

Wasn’t he something like 15 and the woman he pummeled was fighting with his mama?

Think he’s been okay since then though. 

 

I don’t know the details, but I’ll give a kid a second chance for most transgressions. The lack of flack over this tells me it might not be that big of a deal, even though I think I’ve seen some horrific video. Life can be pretty darn complicated.... I form opinions, but I’m not qualified to be the judge. 

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On 3/10/2019 at 8:13 PM, YoloinOhio said:

I thought Crosby was under the radar but I noticed he’s been discussed a lot by draft guys recently. Combine results will do that. He was really productive in the MAC and his film vs Purdue should be pretty good (I watched the broadcast and he jumped out)

The cover1 guys turned me on to him. Yeah his Purdue tape was good. 

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I am really hoping WR Keelan Doss shows up on this list.  He is a perfect fit for the Bills and this coaching staff in my opinion.  He got injured benching at the combine which has helped keep him off the radar, but I would LOVE it if we could get him in the 4th round or so...

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Buffalo Rumblings has a tracker but they don’t have Ferguson or Knox. Either they missed it or We read it wrong on those two and it’s a private workout at their school instead of a top 30 visit. Guess we will see. 

 

 

 

The Bills had dinner with Ferguson prior to his pro day only from what Tony Pauline said. No mention of a visit to one bills drive 

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On 3/10/2019 at 7:12 PM, YoloinOhio said:
1. DL Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan 
2. TE Jace Sternberger, TE Texas A&M
3. DL Ed Oliver, Houston
4. OL Nate Davis, Charlotte 
5. DL Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech 
6. TE Dawson Knox, Ole Miss

 

Thanks for keeping track of this, Yolo. Past couple years it's been pretty tough to find out who they're visiting with but this year seems a bit more open. Good stuff.

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9 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

The Bills had dinner with Ferguson prior to his pro day only from what Tony Pauline said. No mention of a visit to one bills drive 

Ok - it was posted in here so I thought it was a visit. I’ll edit. 

1 minute ago, blacklabel said:

 

Thanks for keeping track of this, Yolo. Past couple years it's been pretty tough to find out who they're visiting with but this year seems a bit more open. Good stuff.

The team doesn’t announce the visits so it’s entirely dependent on reporters finding out. Sometimes the colleges and agents report it too. But the Bills don’t really benefit from telling anyone so its sporadic finding them out. 

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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ok - it was posted in here so I thought it was a visit. I’ll edit. 

The team doesn’t announce the visits so it’s entirely dependent on reporters finding out. Sometimes the colleges and agents report it too. But the Bills don’t really benefit from telling anyone so its sporadic finding them out. 

 

Definitely. Totally opposite of when Whaley was here. I remember he was on WGR talking about who they'd met with and who was still coming in. I mean, I guess it's not bad if word leaks out about who you're visiting with but as you said, they don't really gain anything by it so why not just keep it all in-house. 

 

Also opposite of Whaley is how often this front office meets with/drafts small school prospects. Whaley was always drafting from Clemson, Bama, etc. because he figured those players were so accustomed to winning that it would carry over to the Bills. And so far McBeane has visited with players from Louisiana Tech, Eastern Michigan, Houston, and Charlotte. If you can play, they'll find you.

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10 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

Thanks for posting this. I feel like it’s not necessarily the player they have in but the positions they are looking at and general round they are looking for that positional value is what is most to gain from this IMO. 

I agree with that. The only one that drafted last year who they brought in for a visit was Allen. But they brought in 2 1st round LB - Roquan Smith and Vander Esch. So even though it was obvious they were taking a QB first, they clearly were targeting a LB high too and got one. 

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Dawson Knox another traditional Y tight end. 

 

Interesting. 

 

Seems we prefer guys that are proficient in blocking. 

 

I continue to beat the TJ Hockenson drum and to me this is more evidence 

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56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I agree with that. The only one that drafted last year who they brought in for a visit was Allen. But they brought in 2 1st round LB - Roquan Smith and Vander Esch. So even though it was obvious they were taking a QB first, they clearly were targeting a LB high too and got one. 

Exactly

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https://twitter.com/80fredster23/status/1109524598318657536?s=21

#Bills to host Penn State CB Amani Oruwariye on pre-draft visit. @NFLDraft

@buffalobills. @PennStateFball

@ColdFrontReport

 

stud

5 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

CB Amani Oruwariye from Penn St plans pre draft visit to Buffalo (per his own social media)

Kid is big n fast with very good college production. Not sure if I'd spend a 2nd on him, but that's where he'll likely go

Very underrated player 

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13 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Am I the only one checking in here hoping to see TJ Hockenson's name on this list?

Probably not! Not me though.  I’m not hoping or expecting a TE in the 1st, and I like this player as a prospect but as someone who watches way too much Iowa football I definitely wouldn’t take him that high. 

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2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Guys I really love 

 

Devine Ozigbo

Terry McLaurin

Diontae Johnson

Kahale Warring

Dru Samia

Max Scharping

Maxx Crosby

Blake Cashman

Rock Ya Sin

Justin Layne

 

One of those years I wish we had two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders lol

 

I think we could get Dru in the 2nd and Maxx in the 3rd.    I can also see us trading later picks to have 2 2nds or 2 3rds.  perhaps both.  

45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Probably not! Not me though.  I’m not hoping or expecting a TE in the 1st, and I like this player as a prospect but as someone who watches way too much Iowa football I definitely wouldn’t take him that high. 

 

Yolo: so you think Hock is not a 1st rounder???  I've only watched highlights, which of course make the prospect look great.  Good to hear from someone who watches a lot of Iowa football.   Are there any TE's 1st worthy in your opinion (I generally think there are not, this year seems different).   Who would you target for TE?  

 

On the other hand, watch Kroft bust out.  

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5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I think we could get Dru in the 2nd and Maxx in the 3rd.    I can also see us trading later picks to have 2 2nds or 2 3rds.  perhaps both.  

 

Yolo: so you think Hock is not a 1st rounder???  I've only watched highlights, which of course make the prospect look great.  Good to hear from someone who watches a lot of Iowa football.   Are there any TE's 1st worthy in your opinion (I generally think there are not, this year seems different).   Who would you target for TE?  

 

On the other hand, watch Kroft bust out.  

He will go in the 1st. I would not take him, or any of the TEs in this draft, higher than the 2nd. Since I expect Hock to be gone by the 2nd, I would take Irv Smith in the 2nd or Sternberger in the 3rd.  I would take Fant in the 3rd but he won’t be there. I think it’s very tough to project a rookie TE to immediately produce. They typically don’t come in and start and produce at a high level as rookies. 

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3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I think we could get Dru in the 2nd and Maxx in the 3rd.    I can also see us trading later picks to have 2 2nds or 2 3rds.  perhaps both.  

 

Yolo: so you think Hock is not a 1st rounder???  I've only watched highlights, which of course make the prospect look great.  Good to hear from someone who watches a lot of Iowa football.   Are there any TE's 1st worthy in your opinion (I generally think there are not, this year seems different).   Who would you target for TE?  

 

On the other hand, watch Kroft bust out.  

 

I really hope Jawaan Taylor is still on the board at #9 and the Texans really, really love him and trade up. They have the 23rd, 55th and 56th picks in the Draft. Trade value says it matches up.

 

Imagine coming away with the following in the first two days of the Draft

 

1. Jerry Tillery-DL Notre Dame

2. Dru Samia-G Oklahoma

2. Justin Layne-CB Michigan St

2. Kahale Warring-TE San Diego St

3. Maxx Crosby-DE Eastern Michigan

 

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I won't link it as I don't want to promote my own work, but NYUP's draft tracker is up to date and will be updated whenever news is reported. In addition to pre-draft visits and private workouts, we also have information on prospects that the Bills have reportedly reached out to/shown interest in.

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On 3/21/2019 at 9:25 PM, gonzo1105 said:

Ferguson scares me, he has a lot of production at the group of 5 level but looks stiff on tape and not a bend the edge kind of guy and he's not a great bull rusher. He might be the type that dominates college football and then underachieves in the NFL.

what are you talking about.....half his sacks came off a bull rush....its his main move

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How much correlation has there been with visiting & being picked by the Bills? 

 

I didnt look look at their visits from 2017 & 2018, but how many of those guys that visited were actually drafted by McDermott (2017) and McBeane (2018)? 

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14 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

How much correlation has there been with visiting & being picked by the Bills? 

 

I didnt look look at their visits from 2017 & 2018, but how many of those guys that visited were actually drafted by McDermott (2017) and McBeane (2018)? 

 

Generally, their first round pick is going to be a guy they've met and talked with several times. I can't recall for sure but I believe they met with Tre' White at the Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Day and then had him in for one of their 30 visits. Same with Dawkins that year, I think. In 2018, they had obviously scouted and met with all of the top QBs and came away liking Allen the most. Sometimes a pre-draft visit means they just haven't had the chance to learn more about the player until then. Maybe they missed out on meeting with a player at the Combine or his Pro Day or whatever so the visit gives them a chance to see what a certain player is all about. But in general, if they made a visit, there's a strong likelihood that those 30 players are under serious consideration to be picked.

 

When Whaley was GM almost all of his picks had pre-draft visits. The only one that stood out that didn't visit was Kiko Alonso and that was because they were trying to hide their interest in him. That happens sometimes, too. 

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13 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

 

Generally, their first round pick is going to be a guy they've met and talked with several times. I can't recall for sure but I believe they met with Tre' White at the Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Day and then had him in for one of their 30 visits. Same with Dawkins that year, I think. In 2018, they had obviously scouted and met with all of the top QBs and came away liking Allen the most. Sometimes a pre-draft visit means they just haven't had the chance to learn more about the player until then. Maybe they missed out on meeting with a player at the Combine or his Pro Day or whatever so the visit gives them a chance to see what a certain player is all about. But in general, if they made a visit, there's a strong likelihood that those 30 players are under serious consideration to be picked.

 

When Whaley was GM almost all of his picks had pre-draft visits. The only one that stood out that didn't visit was Kiko Alonso and that was because they were trying to hide their interest in him. That happens sometimes, too. 

They didn’t have White or Dawkins on a visit. But the Panthers did (for the conspiracy theorists) 

 

The only other 1st round pick since 2010 they haven’t had in for a visit was Shaq. 

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On ‎3‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 5:25 AM, Nanker said:

I can see why they have interest in him. 

 

 

Thank God for the mute button. But he is in the right colors. I heard he didn't do well at the Senior Bowl. Played in a weak conference for O-Line (CUSA) But looks explosive

On ‎3‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 6:57 PM, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

I think that was Simmons. But yes the NFL is full of it. 

 

Fergusons ban is even dumber. A simple battery at a McDonalds or something. 

Did he ask for a special order @ McDonalds ?

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On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 11:48 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

I really hope Jawaan Taylor is still on the board at #9 and the Texans really, really love him and trade up. They have the 23rd, 55th and 56th picks in the Draft. Trade value says it matches up.

 

Imagine coming away with the following in the first two days of the Draft

 

1. Jerry Tillery-DL Notre Dame

2. Dru Samia-G Oklahoma

2. Justin Layne-CB Michigan St

2. Kahale Warring-TE San Diego St

3. Maxx Crosby-DE Eastern Michigan

 

No

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On 3/10/2019 at 7:12 PM, YoloinOhio said:
1. DL Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan (3-4)
2. TE Jace Sternberger, TE Texas A&M (3-4)
3. DL Ed Oliver, Houston (1)
4. OL Nate Davis, Charlotte  (4-5)
5. TE Dawson Knox, Ole Miss (4-5)
6. CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn State (1-2)
7. CB JoeJuan Williams, Vanderbilt (2-3)
8. DE Brian Burns, FSU (?) (1)
 
 
 

Why is it called a top 30? I don’t recall that terminology in prior years, is this something new?

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