Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Considering roughly the same number of Americans are killed in a year by illegal immigrants than in the Iraq war (2003-2012) I’d say it qualifies. Not to mention the drug, arms and human trafficking. That said, I don’t think a “see through” fence will do much to stop those issues. Needs to be a solid wall, not one you can just hand off drugs through. I mean a wall wont work either way. I lived near the border. They have a lot invested in terms of technological ability to detect drugs trafficking in Texas. Didnt that ring of human traffickers allegedly bring women in through NYC? I have no issue with securing that border, however, I want it to be efficient. Building a big dumb wall just sounds like a caveman attempt of solving a problem created by people with great motivation and of creativity to match. Edited February 28, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: What crime did lettuce commit to get into this country? How do we know the lettuce isn't here illegally? Maybe Mexican kids tossed those lettuce heads over the wall to their farmer accomplices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: I mean a wall wont work either way. I lived near the border. They have a lot invested in terms of technological ability to detect drugs trafficking in Texas. Didnt that ring of human traffickers allegedly bring women in through NYC? I have no issue with securing that border, however, I want it to be efficient. Building a big dumb wall just sounds like a caveman attempt of solving a problem created by people with great motivation and of creativity to match. Physical barriers funneling to check points that make it easier to apprehend illegal crossings sounds quite logically sound to me. Just now, Lurker said: How do we know the lettuce isn't here illegally? Maybe Mexican kids tossed those lettuce heads over the wall to their farmer accomplices... We should mark every piece of lettuce grown in the US "Made in America." It's the only way to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I mean a wall wont work either way. I lived near the border. They have a lot invested in terms of technological ability to detect drugs trafficking in Texas. Didnt that ring of human traffickers allegedly bring women in through NYC? I have no issue with securing that border, however, I want it to be efficient. Building a big dumb wall just sounds like a caveman attempt of solving a problem created by people with great motivation and of creativity to match. Show me some fatsos climbing over the wall. Walls work. The first thing they try to do to come here is to just simply walk in. It has to be harder than that. The solution starts with a wall and progresses from there. As long as you literally let people walk in, they will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Physical barriers funneling to check points that make it easier to apprehend illegal crossings sounds quite logically sound to me. That wall isn't stretching from the gulf to the Pacific. They already have a ton of money invested in different kinds of temperature sensing radar at checkpoints, and in drones. That's not working and they're still getting around that. What is a wall that doesn't even cover all the land built going to change? And for the record a wall that spanned the whole border wouldnt work either. They'd find a way to go under if needed. They're going to adjust. You're better off increasing drone coverage and the technological abilities rather than building a partial wall. The wall will be obsolete sooner rather than later. It's a wasted investment. Only a president who longs for the past would want to rebuild the wall of China on the southern border rather than invest in research and development of technology that helps or expand on the technology already being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I mean I don’t know how one side can claim to be environmentally conscious AND be okay with millions and millions of people flowing into the country every year. Show me a country with a billion people and I’ll show you a polluted wasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Surprise surprise... He lied again. Awww you poor ❄️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Troll Toll said: Show me some fatsos climbing over the wall. Walls work. The first thing they try to do to come here is to just simply walk in. It has to be harder than that. The solution starts with a wall and progresses from there. As long as you literally let people walk in, they will continue to do so. I get it.... You're doing an act right? This is parody? All I can do is read that in Danny Devitos voice and it is magical. Well, most things are hilarious said by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Who cares? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: That wall isn't stretching from the gulf to the Pacific. They already have a ton of money invested in different kinds of temperature sensing radar at checkpoints, and in drones. That's not working and they're still getting around that. What is a wall that doesn't even cover all the land built going to change? And for the record a wall that spanned the whole border wouldnt work either. They'd find a way to go under if needed. They're going to adjust. You're better off increasing drone coverage and the technological abilities rather than building a partial wall. The wall will be obsolete sooner rather than later. It's a wasted investment. Only a president who longs for the past would want to rebuild the wall of China on the southern border rather than invest in research and development of technology that helps or expand on the technology already being used. I specifically didn't say that. I'm not against increasing drone coverage or the millions of other things we can ALSO do to protect the southern border. We put locks on our doors AND we arm secruity systems. Sometimes, we even own guns too. That doesn't mean locks and security systems are stupid and obsolete. I believe that funneling traffic closer to check points with strategic wall placement will aid in preventing human and drug trafficking. I believe that's a cause worth supporting. It's really that simple. Edited February 28, 2019 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I specifically didn't say that. I'm not against increasing drone coverage or the millions of other things we can ALSO do to protect the southern border. We put locks on our doors AND we arm secruity systems. Sometimes, we even own guns too. That doesn't mean locks and security systems are stupid and obsolete. I believe that funneling traffic closer to check points with strategic wall placement will aid in preventing human and drug trafficking. I believe that's a cause worth supporting. It's really that simple. Fair enough, we can just agree to disagree. I will also add, if the wall were to be built with funding from Congress it wouldn't matter to me. I'd still have my same fundamental disagreements with it, but that's part of living in a functioning republic. I can take my losses. I did with the Affordable Care Act. That has done nothing but cost me money, and directly out of my pocket, unlike the wall. However, his work around of Congress does not sit well with me at all and creates more of an objection to it for me than the wall itself. It's absurd. Don't like half of his supporters like to talk about the Constitution like they hold it on some mantle and he is doing one of the most damaging things to it ever attempted. Edited February 28, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Fair enough, we can just agree to disagree. I will also add, if the wall were to be built with funding from Congress it wouldn't matter to me. I'd still have my same fundamental disagreements with it, but that's part of living in a functioning republic. I can take my losses. I did with the Affordable Care Act. That has done nothing but cost me money, and directly out of my pocket, unlike the wall. However, his work around of Congress does not sit well with me at all and creates more of an objection to it for me than the wall itself. It's absurd. Don't half of supporters like to talk about the Constitution like they hold it on some mantle and he is doing one of the most damaging things to it ever attempted. On 2/15/2019 at 6:36 PM, DC Tom said: On the one hand...presidential overreach. On the other hand...Trump has a pen. And a phone. Suck it, Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: At one point someone has to realize that broadening the powers of the executive is going to hurt him, by him I mean themselves. The Republicans spent 8 years crying about over reaching executive orders. Now it is okay that Trump does it in an even more aggressive fashion? A Democrat will be elected again, whether you want to believe it or not, and if they don't become the party of reason. It will get worse. And I don't want to hear any of you cry when they pass more restrictive gun laws on you. It's bigger than just the moment, it's about precedents. It all has to be taken in consideration, you get some things you dont get everything. And if you get everything, what is the cost? Is it worth it? Which again this is why I don't go to PPP, because while your responses have been great and i enjoy talking to you. Their is like 5 or 6 posters in that forum who ruin it. It's funny none of them pop up in this thread. That guy you quoted is okay, but you said PPP is good if you can support your points. That post is grade a crap. I'll just leave it at that. You got some KGB clown in their too who talks too much and is always disrespectful. And some other dude who says NY loves to kill babies. That forum is poison. Edited February 28, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 All Dems in office... I was for the wall before I was against it. It made sense until Trump wanted it, now it’s oppressive. We should not be stopping those poor cartels and their sex/drug trafficking... how else are they going to pay for their mass unmarked graves and fancy axes to dismember bodies on the border?! There’s no crisis, ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Hey, I want my 13 year old daughter to have a better life... let me stock her up with birth control so she doesn’t end up carrying 2 across the border from the many encounters she will have with the cartels to make it across the wall-less border. Dems: don’t stop the cartels from using that girl, she has every right to be savagely abused on her way to America! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 hours ago, jimmy10 said: Well, there's that whole pesky Benghazi thing and selling uranium to Russia and wanting another war in Syria thing. But besides that, sure. Emails. ? 6 hours ago, MattM said: Uranium One? That’s been pretty thoroughly debunked. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/ Snopes lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Okay. Edited February 28, 2019 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Well, there's that whole pesky Benghazi thing and selling uranium to Russia and wanting another war in Syria thing. But besides that, sure. Emails. ? Cool story, bro. We’ll see who gets indicted first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Now this can die here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: At one point someone has to realize that broadening the powers of the executive is going to hurt him, by him I mean themselves. The Republicans spent 8 years crying about over reaching executive orders. Now it is okay that Trump does it in an even more aggressive fashion? A Democrat will be elected again, whether you want to believe it or not, and if they don't become the party of reason. It will get worse. And I don't want to hear any of you cry when they pass more restrictive gun laws on you. It's bigger than just the moment, it's about precedents. It all has to be taken in consideration, you get some things you dont get everything. And if you get everything, what is the cost? Is it worth it? Which again this is why I don't go to PPP, because while your responses have been great and i enjoy talking to you. Their is like 5 or 6 posters in that forum who ruin it. It's funny none of them pop up in this thread. That guy you quoted is okay, but you said PPP is good if you can support your points. That post is grade a crap. I'll just leave it at that. You got some KGB clown in their too who talks too much and is always disrespectful. And some other dude who says NY loves to kill babies. That forum is poison. Your opinion is the only one that matters in the world. You are a better and more enlightened man than most. Eff those low information voters. Edited February 28, 2019 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I knew this thread would end up in the PPP. I'm glad the Con Man didn't get the backing (shady loans) to make a legitimate offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Edited February 28, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Everytime I see leftists talking politics on TSW it reminds me of this. Skip to 30 seconds in. The far right depiction in this clip is pretty frigging funny too actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I knew this thread would end up in the PPP. I'm glad the Con Man didn't get the backing (shady loans) to make a legitimate offer. There's nothing shady with Trump using his gold toilet bowl accounting method to overestimate the value of his brand name. I'm guessing the Deutsche Bank credit officers had a big laugh when they saw that financial "statement" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I knew this thread would end up in the PPP. I'm glad the Con Man didn't get the backing (shady loans) to make a legitimate offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Some of you have zero idea what you’re talking about. My father had both top pentagon and CIA clearances. He would have been sent to prison in a heartbeat for what James Comey testified that Mrs Clinton had done. No questions, no debate, just gone! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: At one point someone has to realize that broadening the powers of the executive is going to hurt him, by him I mean themselves. The Republicans spent 8 years crying about over reaching executive orders. Now it is okay that Trump does it in an even more aggressive fashion? A Democrat will be elected again, whether you want to believe it or not, and if they don't become the party of reason. It will get worse. And I don't want to hear any of you cry when they pass more restrictive gun laws on you. It's bigger than just the moment, it's about precedents. It all has to be taken in consideration, you get some things you dont get everything. And if you get everything, what is the cost? Is it worth it? Which again this is why I don't go to PPP, because while your responses have been great and i enjoy talking to you. Their is like 5 or 6 posters in that forum who ruin it. It's funny none of them pop up in this thread. That guy you quoted is okay, but you said PPP is good if you can support your points. That post is grade a crap. I'll just leave it at that. You got some KGB clown in their too who talks too much and is always disrespectful. And some other dude who says NY loves to kill babies. That forum is poison. I think it sums up the position most people have. They don’t like Presidential overreach, but after being served the same ***** sandwich over and over with Obama, they aren’t up in arms. If you asked PPP if they thought this was Presidential overreach, point blank, you’d probably get half of them to say yes. Edited February 28, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I think it sums up the position most people have. They don’t like Presidential overreach, but after being served the same ***** sandwich over and over with Obama, they aren’t up in arms because they have had this same ***** sandwich served to them for 8 years. I didn’t fault Obama and I don’t fault Trump. Presidential overreach is the symptom not the cause. The problem is that congress refuses to do much of anything except argue with each other over stuff that we all know they actually agree on. Something has to change to upset the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I didn’t fault Obama and I don’t fault Trump. Presidential overreach is the symptom not the cause. The problem is that congress refuses to do much of anything except argue with each other over stuff that we all know they actually agree on. Something has to change to upset the status quo. It doesn’t matter. It’s still not the way this democracy should operate. But the cat is already out of the bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 16 hours ago, Protocal69 said: You can’t make this ***** up I keep looking for the link here in your OP that would support your premise. Normally it's considered proper to provide a link to enable people to intelligently discuss the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: According to him, of course. Then there was two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Oh, and did you notice that none of them...NONE challenged any of Cohen's allegations? Weird, huh? When someone is making things worse with more lies under oath, and embarrassing themselves and the people who brought them to the party, you step to the side and don't interrupt the clusterfk. You just let it fall apart on it's own. But thanks for the talking point. You seem to catch MSNBC last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: At one point someone has to realize that broadening the powers of the executive is going to hurt him, by him I mean themselves. The Republicans spent 8 years crying about over reaching executive orders. Now it is okay that Trump does it in an even more aggressive fashion? A Democrat will be elected again, whether you want to believe it or not, and if they don't become the party of reason. It will get worse. And I don't want to hear any of you cry when they pass more restrictive gun laws on you. It's bigger than just the moment, it's about precedents. It all has to be taken in consideration, you get some things you dont get everything. And if you get everything, what is the cost? Is it worth it? Which again this is why I don't go to PPP, because while your responses have been great and i enjoy talking to you. Their is like 5 or 6 posters in that forum who ruin it. It's funny none of them pop up in this thread. That guy you quoted is okay, but you said PPP is good if you can support your points. That post is grade a crap. I'll just leave it at that. You got some KGB clown in their too who talks too much and is always disrespectful. And some other dude who says NY loves to kill babies. That forum is poison. Or, perhaps, this declared National Emergency could spur Congress into fixing the NEA which gave 45 (and others before him) the authority to declare such national emergencies. That would be the adult thing for Congress to do. Doubt it happens though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 16 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Awww you poor ❄️ Trumptards can't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: Trumptards can't handle it. You obviously have a wonderful economy with words, Gloria. We look forward to your next syllable with great eagerness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, LABillzFan said: You obviously have a wonderful economy with words, Gloria. We look forward to your next syllable with great eagerness. You don't realize how ignorant Trump supporters are until you see them getting angry over a thread in TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: You don't realize how ignorant Trump supporters are until you see them getting angry over a thread in TBD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: You don't realize how ignorant Trump supporters are until you see them getting angry over a thread in TBD. You don't realize how embarrassing leftists are until you see them confuse anger with joy. Most of us here don't care for Trump, the person. But we love, love, love how me makes leftists like yourself leak your Depends. Trumptards! Orange Man Bad! Stop telling me to learn code! Open the borders! Socialism is awesome! Love me late term abortions! Best. Meltdown. Ever. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 16 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Awww you poor ❄️ It's always so fun when one of them comes out of the woodwork, with blood pressure still as high as two years ago. I'm sure he's been glued to CNN just waiting for the "beginning of the end"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 question is. will cohen meet a shank when he gets to prison? my guess is there may be a good chance he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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