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Cuts to add an additional 6 Million

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2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Save being defensive  for when you actually have a solid point  to make. 

Nice non-answer

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2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said:

Hmmmm, my suggested signings cost the Bills $42,000,000, leaving $43,000,000 for next year.  Plus the signings give us room to move off the contracts to pay Tre, Josh and Tremaine at market value

But that is already a rate so reckless we will be back in salary cap hell after offseason 2

2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

The cap rises every year. I can see maintaining some space under the cap. It's prudent. That's not where we're at here. We have a TON of cap space with no major impending FA's in 2020. I expect them to be pretty aggressive this year. If they're not careful, they could end up not hitting the cap FLOOR. I agree that it would make sense to stay under by 10-15 mil or so, but anything over that is a waste of cap space.

 

Most of that response tells me you either aren’t really following what I’m saying or don’t understand the impact of multi year deals on salary cap planning. I’d be surprised if they didn’t hit the floor. They have to. “The cap rises every year” is a breathtakingly uninformed statement. Like, sure, the cap inflates, but so do player salaries. 

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5 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

But that is already a rate so reckless we will be back in salary cap hell after offseason 2

 

Most of that response tells me you either aren’t really following what I’m saying or don’t understand the impact of multi year deals on salary cap planning. I’d be surprised if they didn’t hit the floor. They have to. “The cap rises every year” is a breathtakingly uninformed statement. Like, sure, the cap inflates, but so do player salaries. 

Bottom line. What dollar amount would you like to see the Bills remain under the cap?

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Hire away the best o f the Pats free agents.....we need somebody who has actually been to the superbowl.

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4 hours ago, Herc11 said:

I stopped reading when I saw you suggest cutting Ivory...

Really? 

 

Like Chris Ivory is a make or break player. 

 

I’d like a whole new set of running backs Shady included. Being chained to 30-31 year old veterans is ridiculous. 

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People act like Doug Whaley was the only GM that spent to the cap and occasionally had issues. That's patently not true and really Bills centric thinking. Pretty much ALL teams spend to the cap and have issues every single year, especially if they want to remain competitive. Whaley's problem was that he never found a true answer at QB. Once you get the QB, you have more flexibility in terms of letting guys loose. The Bills right now are in a perfect spot where they have the QB on a rookie deal. That's precisely when you spend money to surround said QB with talent. It's a constant struggle to remain under the cap for virtually ALL competitive teams. There is really no benefit to stashing all this cash. None whatsoever.

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So.... cutting 5 bare bones players to equal 6 million. But then you would need to sign 5 guys still to fill out the roster, and you probably can’t for that 6 million 🤔

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Cut them all. Sign the best Guard on the market with that money. 

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They'd just have to replace those guys with similar caliber players and similar contracts.

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4 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Here's some more cuts:

Random player #1

Random player #2

Random practice squad player #3.

 

 

"Punter."  You're an idiot.

Dont forget "whatshisface

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Cut Shady sign Hunt, that's how you save money.

 

Those guys need to be replaced for position and roster size and there are minimum contracts that govern all that. Not saving money cutting them (although Ivory is a bit pricey for what he is). 

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5 hours ago, RPbillsfan said:

Here are some easy cuts to add $6,000,000 to our $78,750,000 in cap space

 

Chris Ivory

Vlad Ducasse

Punter 

Cam Phillips

Denzel Rice

 

These obvious moves would bring our cap space to $85,000,000.

 

That additional space is going to be very helpful.

I like your style bud screw these guys they don't know Jack!!! 

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4 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

Lets cut everyone...

Except for:

 

Chris Ivory

Vlad Ducasse

Punter

Cam Phillips 

Denzel Rice

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4 hours ago, RPbillsfan said:

The reason I'm suggesting these cuts will be to be competitive with teams with a bit more money to spend.

With the right moves the Bills can compete for a playoff spot next year.

Agreed

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4 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

They need to spend way more than that to get to the minimum cap. They can’t roll 40 million. 

And you mention some of the top free agents, surely other teams will be bidding quite hard to get those guys as well. This is why it’s difficult to cut more guys. 

You may end up with worse replacements than you already have on the team. Difference is the guys on the team already know the schemes and players in the locker room. 

You don’t cut someone like ivory until you already have their replacement under contract. Tevin Coleman and Yeldon are the top 2 backs available, other teams need them way more than buffalo. They can’t just sign all the top free agents that’s a bad way to build the team and fill holes. 

Ask the redskins and dolphins 

it appears they can roll 40 mill.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-much-salary-cap-space-your-favorite-nfl-team-will-have-in-2017/

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My cuts would be:

  • Trent Murphy - his contract was structured with an out this offseason if they don't think he's worth $8.5M/yr.  Cap savings of $5M.
  • Cutting Clay saves us $4.5M. 
  • Ivory & McCoy are both on the wrong side of 30 and will save us another $8.6M combined.

That's a cool $18M added to our FA fund.

 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo86 said:

My cuts would be:

  • Trent Murphy - his contract was structured with an out this offseason if they don't think he's worth $8.5M/yr.  Cap savings of $5M.
  • Cutting Clay saves us $4.5M. 
  • Ivory & McCoy are both on the wrong side of 30 and will save us another $8.6M combined.

That's a cool $18M added to our FA fund.

 

I'm all in on everything you said. If they can get back some money by cutting Murphy I'd be all about that too. I get why they signed him because we needed help rushing the passer but you're just never gonna get a great return on your investment with him. Dudes only really had 1 good season & he's always injured & even when he does play, he's only in there for 40% of the plays. Maybe I'm old fashioned but 8.5 mil is a helluva lotta money for a guy like that. If ur cool with paying 9 mil per year, pay Clowney, pay Demarcus Lawrence. Players who have shown in the past they can consistently make plays. Theyre not perfect but have more upside than Murphy

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I’m throwing shade. This thread is off the rails.

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