Mountain Man Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, billieve420 said: It can't get any worse. I am all for lining up the best 5 regardless of where they played last year. Why would you move Dawkins to a position he is bad at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Why would you move Dawkins to a position he is bad at? You clearly are in the minority, Dawkins killed it in the brief time he was at LG. Maybe stay up on the mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Mountain Man said: Why would you move Dawkins to a position he is bad at? Also depends who is playing next to him. If you have a pro bowl T or C next to him how bad would he look. I will leave it to the OL coach to put these guys in the best spots for the team. If you can find upgrade at LT, I have no problem moving Dawkins somewhere else. If not and he is the best option then let him continue to play LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 1:51 PM, Mountain Man said: Leave Dawkins at LT. Whenever they have tried in any other position he was terrible Well, he played guard in college, was projected to be an NFL guard, started at RT but sort of got LT by default because of Cordy. Coaches have said they'll look at it, to me he's the perfect guard because of his freakish strength and anchor, which is why I'm betting that drafting a LT is happening 1st or second round. He's fast enough to pull too. Plus he can catch the rock, in case we need a backup TE or something woot woot. still my favorite play of the year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: You clearly are in the minority, Dawkins killed it in the brief time he was at LG. Maybe stay up on the mountain. He didn't. He was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 11:24 PM, IgotBILLStopay said: That is stiffer than I imagined. Maybe 6-7 mill per year. 6 or 7 Mill would be a good deal add in some playing time incentives which could motivate him even more but he would be a upgrade for sure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 12:07 AM, YoloinOhio said: So in other words, McDermott is drooling Possibly master*****g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He did miss almost all of 2018 with an injury, so he does check one box on the Bills list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 2:35 PM, Da webster guy said: Well, he played guard in college, was projected to be an NFL guard, started at RT but sort of got LT by default because of Cordy. Coaches have said they'll look at it, to me he's the perfect guard because of his freakish strength and anchor, which is why I'm betting that drafting a LT is happening 1st or second round. He's fast enough to pull too. Plus he can catch the rock, in case we need a backup TE or something woot woot. still my favorite play of the year.... Dawkins started all of his games at left tackle for Temple. He played a game or two at RT his freshmen year. But he was a full time three year starter at left tackle. He's a converted defensive lineman and so I think his game still needs some refinement. I think the Dawkins to guard thing comes from Mike Mayock's comments during the draft. I think he is fine at left tackle. He's got super long arms and great feet, his punch is inconsistent, but I would hope that would come with more work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 6:18 PM, klos63 said: I don't know why, I like Milano, but for some reason not totally sold that he is anything special. He's above average much of the time, but not always. Just can't read him well I guess. But a 9mm deal sounds like it won't cost too much, even if the give him a top of the line model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, T master said: 6 or 7 Mill would be a good deal add in some playing time incentives which could motivate him even more but he would be a upgrade for sure . Dreaming. 10 million or more per season he’ll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Dawkins started all of his games at left tackle for Temple. He played a game or two at RT his freshmen year. But he was a full time three year starter at left tackle. He's a converted defensive lineman and so I think his game still needs some refinement. I think the Dawkins to guard thing comes from Mike Mayock's comments during the draft. I think he is fine at left tackle. He's got super long arms and great feet, his punch is inconsistent, but I would hope that would come with more work. I still think moving Deon to LG and drafting a LT in the first (and signing Daryl Williams to play RT) might be the best thing they can do for this team......then start drafting offensive threats from the 2nd round on. In the little time we have seen Dawkins at LG.....he was impressive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 9:24 PM, IgotBILLStopay said: That is stiffer than I imagined. Maybe 6-7 mill per year. If he was healthy we'd probably be looking north of $12 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I still think moving Deon to LG and drafting a LT in the first (and signing Daryl Williams to play RT) might be the best thing they can do for this team......then start drafting offensive threats from the 2nd round on. In the little time we have seen Dawkins at LG.....he was impressive. I understand the sentiment. I want to see what he can do now that Juan Castillo is gone. I thought he played really well despite some terrible plays here and there. I think that pretty much any tackle is better off inside, but I'm not moving him unless I am absolutely sure he can't be a left tackle in this league. I do not believe that any rookie in this draft can come in and be a better left tackle than Dawkins is, so I feel like it would be a waste of a top ten pick. If you are drafting Tyron Smith, that is whole different story. I think you give him one more year to see if it all comes together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I understand the sentiment. I want to see what he can do now that Juan Castillo is gone. I thought he played really well despite some terrible plays here and there. I think that pretty much any tackle is better off inside, but I'm not moving him unless I am absolutely sure he can't be a left tackle in this league. I do not believe that any rookie in this draft can come in and be a better left tackle than Dawkins is, so I feel like it would be a waste of a top ten pick. If you are drafting Tyron Smith, that is whole different story. I think you give him one more year to see if it all comes together. I think the time for ‘let’s wait and see’ is over.. This team needs to start winning games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I think the time for ‘let’s wait and see’ is over.. This team needs to start winning games That's just unrealistic. There are too many young developing players. It's still going to be a wait and see no matter what you do. I expect improvement but they are still in wait in see mode. My point is that people want to move Dawkins just to move him. He has not been terrible and there is no one in the draft who will come in day 1 and be better. Moving him in to guard is just creating a massive hole at left tackle, which then forces you to draft for need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 11:41 AM, Mountain Man said: He didn't. He was terrible. You are incorrect on this 3 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I think the time for ‘let’s wait and see’ is over.. This team needs to start winning games I think the time has come and gone for bargain shopping as well...... The last 2 years of the Beane/McDermott era have cumulated to this offseason - We cut salary and players for draft picks - We got rid of dead cap crap sandwich Now we need players.....and we need to start winning.....and that all start on the O and D lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You are incorrect on this You can't talk to this guy John. I think he's Dawkins agent to be quite honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah we've been having Daryl Williams discussions since pre-season. Taylor Moton capitalized with the Williams injury and he's now expendable. Would love to sign him and not worry about the RT position for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 I don’t know if lacanfora has any real info on this or is just piecing together Gettleman/Beane/Panthers and the fact both teams need a RT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know if lacanfora has any real info on this or is just piecing together Gettleman/Beane/Panthers and the fact both teams need a RT. Agreed. LaConjecture is making an educated guess based on the personal relationship both GMs have with Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know if lacanfora has any real info on this or is just piecing together Gettleman/Beane/Panthers and the fact both teams need a RT. I'm guessing that's what it is LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I know that the NFL has to put parameters around when you can legally tamper, but it’s gotta be impossible from keeping agents from playing footsie with GM’s and knowing what other teams are willing to pay well before the legal tampering date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I know that the NFL has to put parameters around when you can legally tamper, but it’s gotta be impossible from keeping agents from playing footsie with GM’s and knowing what other teams are willing to pay well before the legal tampering date. Read this: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/22/free-agent-tampering-period-agents-players-mmqb 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 6:58 AM, Meazy26 said: My dream is to sign Daryl Williams, Matt Paradis, and Trent Brown. (LT) Trent Brown - (LG) Dion Dawkins - (C) Matt Paradis - (RG) Wyatt Teller - (RT) Daryl Williams Probably would cost us at least 10mil per year for each guy. It’s would take upwards of about 35mil of our cap space. Still would have nearly 50mil left over. Sign another stud pass rusher and a WR... Playoffs! One can dream, right? I like your plan but would be very hesitant to sign trent Brown at LT as he is an RT forced to play there when Isiah Wynn got hurt. He is not a good pass pro guy and the NE quick passing game covered up some glaring holes in his game. Remember when we played Langston Walker at LT - disaster! Have to believe that RT (Daryl Williams) or LG (Foster, Saffold) may be targets now in FA given Long signing. Bills could grab an LT (Williams, Dillard) and C (McCoy, Bradbury) in draft then. Line could look like this then: Williams, Saffold, Long, Dawkins, Williams with Bradbury, Teller and Serles as backups. Good mix of vets and youngsters Daryl Williams and Jordan Phillips were teammates at OU for 2-3 years. Wonder if they have a tight relationship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Agreed. LaConjecture is making an educated guess based on the personal relationship both GMs have with Williams. Two words I ever expected to see together: La Conjecture and educated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I hope we land him. Would love to add at least 1 more relevant FA if not 2. If we could get him, then go land Saffold and one of the 2 centers then I would be on cloud 9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 As long as the medical is good on him the rest is a easy decision & the contract at what they are talking isn't bed for a starting tackle i think Bean will make it happen & may even make the contract a bit better given his injury history could be a incentive based deal that could make it even more enticing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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