Marv's Neighbor Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 https://sports.yahoo.com/10-year-old-kid-won-science-fair-proving-tom-brady-cheater-184439991.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Meh. He's a guy constantly looking for a competitive advantage and probably crosses the line. He's the best quarterback I've ever seen play. Didn't seem to affect him when they inflated his balls. That being said, the end is nigh. Edited January 24, 2019 by LSHMEAB 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 LOL! Is this even a question? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Sounds like this kid posts on here 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) "Ace sought to prove that Brady was a cheater through science. He wanted to show that deflated footballs gave Brady a competitive advantage. On his poster, he included the results of experiments he did with his mom and sister. Each of them threw footballs of varying inflation, and he measured the distance of each one and calculated the average. He found that the least inflated football traveled the farthest, therefore giving Brady a competitive advantage."Well if that's not definitive, I don't know what is! But seriously...the game was 17 to 7 at halftime, with Brady only throwing 1 TD & 1 INT. Then in the 2nd half after the balls were replaced with properly inflated ones, they outscored the Colts 28-0 with Brady throwing 2 TD's and 0 INT's... I don't any sane person would argue that inflating the footballs suddenly made Brady play worse, or that the Colts would've won had it not been for the air pressure in those balls. They got outplayed & out-coached thoroughly in the 2nd half, as seen by their whopping 0 points and the defense allowing 4 more TD's. Edit: I didn't realize the whole point of football is to see how far a ball can be thrown... It's must've been that deflated ball that resulted in Tom Brady's longest completion of the first half being 30 yards (which is obviously what made them win the game). Besides that one 30 yard pass, his next deepest pass was for 12 yards. What a cheater!!!! Edited January 25, 2019 by BigDingus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) He doesn't have to cheat.... the Refs are on his side. Edited January 24, 2019 by Azucho98 1 1 17 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Wouldn't shock me if he (Or his wife) paid off the Falcons to choke away that SB. He's a disgusting human being who should've been banned for life. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Face it, the Patriots have out scouted, out drafted, out signed FA's, out coached, and out QB the rest of the NFL for over 20 years!! If you honestly think they have cheated you are delusional!!! As an organization, they have achieved success and excellence, inflated or deflated footballs as an excuse are hilarious!! 1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Wouldn't shock me if he (Or his wife) paid off the Falcons to choke away that SB. He's a disgusting human being who should've been banned for life. You sir, are nuts! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Sounds like this kid posts on here ..PG-13...gotta love it.....I blame Fisher-Price wi fi............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Wouldn't shock me if he (Or his wife) paid off the Falcons to choke away that SB. He's a disgusting human being who should've been banned for life. Really? You think Brady or his wife could pay more money than Arthur Blank could pay? Blank is worth over $4.5 BILLION... I'm sure Brady & his wife couldn't sniff that if that if they tried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: He doesn't have to cheat.... the Refs are on his side. $$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 All I know is he likes his balls just so. Does Brady make money from TB12 that offsets his lower salary? Is that cheating? is being a whiny littlebitch cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Does a bear **** in the woods? Pats fans aren't so sure about Bear anatomy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Is hugging a ref before the game cheating? Is yelling at the refs during a game and not getting a flag cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Is hugging a ref before the game cheating? Is yelling at the refs during a game and not getting a flag cheating? JA does his fair share of referee b****ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Meh. He's a guy constantly looking for a competitive advantage and probably crosses the line. He's the best quarterback I've ever seen play. Didn't seem to affect him when they inflated his balls. That being said, the end is nigh. ...LOL....don't they all?.....Pats happened to get caught while the other 31 snickered in private.......and the Pats/BB/Brady seemingly unrealistic accolades put them under the microscope......realistically (and begrudgingly), their stats belong in "Ripley's Believe It Or Not"....... Edited January 24, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: JA does his fair share of referee b****ing No one can yell at a ref like Tom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Deflating the balls was just about having better grip. It helps in a number of ways, including not fumbling. The results of the game really don't matter. I've never consider Brady to be the real problem. Belichick and the front office have always been the cheaters in my mind, with Brady going along for the ride. Spygate and the radio tampering were bigger deals. 13 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: JA does his fair share of referee b****ing He's a huge fan of Brady 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, vorpma said: Face it, the Patriots have out scouted, out drafted, out signed FA's, out coached, and out QB the rest of the NFL for over 20 years!! If you honestly think they have cheated you are delusional!!! As an organization, they have achieved success and excellence, inflated or deflated footballs as an excuse are hilarious!! You sir, are nuts! I generally agree with you. I think they “out-everything” the entire league. I don’t discount spy gate though. Not necessarily because of when they did it, but because the effects are so long lasting and career altering. Brady knowing the signals, calls, plays, and most importantly, keeping his helmet mic on, are the worlds greatest tutor when it comes to learning the game in the NFL. He got them all in live action. You can’t discount it in terms of his current ability to see the field. Would Tom have been great with out it? Sure, probably. Would he be the GOAT and play at such a high level mentally into his 40’s, like he is now? Unsure. At best it’s worth the conversation. At worst, Brady would have had a Rogers, Romo, Rivers, Manning, type career without that “tutoring” and “mentorship” during his early stages of his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Really? You think Brady or his wife could pay more money than Arthur Blank could pay? Blank is worth over $4.5 BILLION... I'm sure Brady & his wife couldn't sniff that if that if they tried. Insanity, these people are crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Mango said: I generally agree with you. I think they “out-everything” the entire league. I don’t discount spy gate though. Not necessarily because of when they did it, but because the effects are so long lasting and career altering. Brady knowing the signals, calls, plays, and most importantly, keeping his helmet mic on, are the worlds greatest tutor when it comes to learning the game in the NFL. He got them all in live action. You can’t discount it in terms of his current ability to see the field. Would Tom have been great with out it? Sure, probably. Would he be the GOAT and play at such a high level mentally into his 40’s, like he is now? Unsure. At best it’s worth the conversation. At worst, Brady would have had a Rogers, Romo, Rivers, Manning, type career without that “tutoring” and “mentorship” during his early stages of his career. Come on dude, not buying it!!! Look on the internet, you can find so much more interesting conspiracy theories! Face it, they have out performed everybody, I know that hurts! 1 minute ago, wppete said: Get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, vorpma said: Get a life! Jesus dude, relax it’s a joke and FYI That picture has been on the internet for a decade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Jesus dude, relax it’s a joke and FYI That picture has been on the internet for a decade You have my apologies my friend! Truly sorry! Just tired of the absurd!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, vorpma said: Get a life! 2 minutes ago, vorpma said: You have my apologies my friend! Truly sorry! Just tired of the absurd!!! You need to relax.... it’s all over the internet. Just google Tom Brady Cheater.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Jesus dude, relax it’s a joke and FYI That picture has been on the internet for a decade Because they've been CHEATING for a ***** decade. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: LOL! Is this even a question? All stupid nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 No, I don't think he's a cheater. Well, not until he met Darth Bill and crossed over to the dark side. When you acquire an underrated talent and pair him with one of the NFLs all time great strategists and employ a work ethic second to none and combine that with certain methods (ethical or not) the result is 20 years of unequalled excellence. God I hate those mutherflockers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 ...so here's a twisted hypothetical.....say all of Brady's accomplishments, awards, accolades, SB rings, indiscretions and subsequent penalties ALL occurred while in a Bflo uniform, earning OBD mantra as the "Bogus Bills"?......pissed?....defensive?....in agreement?.....don't care about outsider opinions?....hmmmm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so here's a twisted hypothetical.....say all of Brady's accomplishments, awards, accolades, SB rings, indiscretions and subsequent penalties ALL occurred while in a Bflo uniform, earning OBD mantra as the "Bogus Bills"?......pissed?....defensive?....in agreement?.....don't care about outsider opinions?....hmmmm........ Tbe punishment of giving our hearts over to a loser franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, vorpma said: You have my apologies my friend! Truly sorry! Just tired of the absurd!!! That’s ok. We’re Bills fans and I thought we were supposed to rail on our nemesis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: That’s ok. We’re Bills fans and I thought we were supposed to rail on our nemesis ...and "26" vanished...what happened to your bud??........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 As much as I'd like to re-shoe my horse with his head, there comes a point when you just have to admit that he's amazing. It's just a fact. Years ago I insisted that Montana was better because he played against defences that were actually allowed to hit and bump receivers etc. And while I still think that's true to an extent, you just can't deny his greatness. The list of achievements kind of makes me sick because I can't see anyone ever getting close to it. 9 SBs. NINE. 5 wins so far, 4 SB MVPs, 13 AFC championships including the last 8! Those numbers are just mind boggling. The one thing I do find interesting is that in all those years they have never dominated their way through the playoffs and then destroyed their opponent in the SB. Montana had the close games, but he also helped humiliate Denver, who I believe had the best defense in the league that year. Brady and the Pats have never done that, all their SBs have been tight. Of course that means they could have won them all, but they've also never been the absolute clear cut best that's miles above the next best team. They'll probably put 56 up against the Rams next week now I've said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and "26" vanished...what happened to your bud??........ See the thread on OTW. some say he’s done this before Maybe Dunkirk made him an offer he couldn’t refuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, wppete said: You need to relax.... it’s all over the internet. Just google Tom Brady Cheater.... He needs to relax or go back to his Pat's* message board to defend them. He seems to think only Bills fans have a problem with their past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Deflating the balls was just about having better grip. It helps in a number of ways, including not fumbling. The results of the game really don't matter. I've never consider Brady to be the real problem. Belichick and the front office have always been the cheaters in my mind, with Brady going along for the ride. Spygate and the radio tampering were bigger deals. He's a huge fan of Brady I would bet a good sum you'd be hard pressed to find a quarterback who reached the NFL that doesn't admire Brady. If Josh Allen thought POORLY of Brady, that would be a serious problem. If you want to emulate anyone's work habits, it's that ******bag. You wanna be the best? You beat the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Wouldn't shock me if he (Or his wife) paid off the Falcons to choke away that SB. He's a disgusting human being who should've been banned for life. Save these hot takes for twitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, vorpma said: Come on dude, not buying it!!! Look on the internet, you can find so much more interesting conspiracy theories! Face it, they have out performed everybody, I know that hurts! Get a life! Huh? It’s not a consipieacy theory. It was reported as part of spygate. His helmet mic never shut off inside 15”/ at the LoS. Doug Flutie mentioned that it surprised him when he accidentally grabbed Toms helmet one game. Tom Brady has always been good at seeing the field, but his learning curve was very different from every other QB in the league. There’s a very real argument to be made that he is exponentially better at it because of his “upbringing”. There is 100 links to this story from reputable sources, but I’ll drop one. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/from-cheating-claims-to-trash-talking-steelers-patriots-rivalry-full-of-bad-blood/ Real world example. You graduate from UNC with your MBA. Very good program, but it’s no Chicago, Harvard, or Wharton. You do well. You’re not top of your class but in the 5-10 range. You get a mid level job with a few of your fellow graduates at Amazon in some mid level supply chain role. You perform well on a few early projects. Bezos takes a liking to you. In fact, makes you the President and CEO. Except while you’re taking over the company, Bezos isn’t just a mentor to bounce ideas off. He’s proof reading all your emails, providing reports and financials, telling you how to handle your PNL’s, and what companies to acquire. Amazon keeps growing. Bezos disappears over some insider trading aligations. But you maintain your position as CEO and President. You do a fine job continuing to grow the company. Would you be the same President and CEO of you hadn’t had Bezos controlling your every business move for those years? Thats Tom Brady. Promising, talented, driven, but with an advantage when it comes to learning on the job that created who he is today. He is the GOAT, hands down, not close. I just question how he got there. Deflate gate was dumb BTW. I’m more upset by the underhandedness more than I am the result of the act. If you want to try and sneak by the refs when they check. Whatever. But if don’t systematically pull a fast one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mango said: Huh? It’s not a consipieacy theory. It was reported as part of spygate. His helmet mic never shut off inside 15”/ at the LoS. Doug Flutie mentioned that it surprised him when he accidentally grabbed Toms helmet one game. Tom Brady has always been good at seeing the field, but his learning curve was very different from every other QB in the league. There’s a very real argument to be made that he is exponentially better at it because of his “upbringing”. There is 100 links to this story from reputable sources, but I’ll drop one. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/from-cheating-claims-to-trash-talking-steelers-patriots-rivalry-full-of-bad-blood/ Real world example. You graduate from UNC with your MBA. Very good program, but it’s no Chicago, Harvard, or Wharton. You do well. You’re not top of your class but in the 5-10 range. You get a mid level job with a few of your fellow graduates at Amazon in some mid level supply chain role. You perform well on a few early projects. Bezos takes a liking to you. In fact, makes you the President and CEO. Except while you’re taking over the company, Bezos isn’t just a mentor to bounce ideas off. He’s proof reading all your emails, providing reports and financials, telling you how to handle your PNL’s, and what companies to acquire. Amazon keeps growing. Bezos disappears over some insider trading aligations. But you maintain your position as CEO and President. You do a fine job continuing to grow the company. Would you be the same President and CEO of you hadn’t had Bezos controlling your every business move for those years? Thats Tom Brady. Promising, talented, driven, but with an advantage when it comes to learning on the job that created who he is today. He is the GOAT, hands down, not close. I just question how he got there. Deflate gate was dumb BTW. I’m more upset by the underhandedness more than I am the result of the act. If you want to try and sneak by the refs when they check. Whatever. But if don’t systematically pull a fast one. Deflate gate was dumb, but I said at that time that the deflating of balls was probably more likely to be the distraction than the real infraction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mango said: Huh? It’s not a consipieacy theory. It was reported as part of spygate. His helmet mic never shut off inside 15”/ at the LoS. Doug Flutie mentioned that it surprised him when he accidentally grabbed Toms helmet one game. Tom Brady has always been good at seeing the field, but his learning curve was very different from every other QB in the league. There’s a very real argument to be made that he is exponentially better at it because of his “upbringing”. There is 100 links to this story from reputable sources, but I’ll drop one. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/from-cheating-claims-to-trash-talking-steelers-patriots-rivalry-full-of-bad-blood/ Real world example. You graduate from UNC with your MBA. Very good program, but it’s no Chicago, Harvard, or Wharton. You do well. You’re not top of your class but in the 5-10 range. You get a mid level job with a few of your fellow graduates at Amazon in some mid level supply chain role. You perform well on a few early projects. Bezos takes a liking to you. In fact, makes you the President and CEO. Except while you’re taking over the company, Bezos isn’t just a mentor to bounce ideas off. He’s proof reading all your emails, providing reports and financials, telling you how to handle your PNL’s, and what companies to acquire. Amazon keeps growing. Bezos disappears over some insider trading aligations. But you maintain your position as CEO and President. You do a fine job continuing to grow the company. Would you be the same President and CEO of you hadn’t had Bezos controlling your every business move for those years? Thats Tom Brady. Promising, talented, driven, but with an advantage when it comes to learning on the job that created who he is today. He is the GOAT, hands down, not close. I just question how he got there. Deflate gate was dumb BTW. I’m more upset by the underhandedness more than I am the result of the act. If you want to try and sneak by the refs when they check. Whatever. But if don’t systematically pull a fast one. Keep on dreaming and reading tabloids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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