B-Man Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 NEO: Nathan Phillips and the surprise video: Phillips got his video and the story went out. He got his interviews and he got to frame the story, and although almost every word he said was wrong, he never thought his narrative could be disproved. The only reason it was disproved (for those with eyes to see and ears to hear) was that someone else was videotaping the whole thing, not just the part he wanted to air. Almost certainly unbeknownst to Phillips, someone else had started recording long before Phillips moved into the crowd of boys. That “someone” was apparently part of the Black Israelite group that was harassing the teenagers with racial and other threats and insults… That was the longer video that showed that it was the Covington students who were being abused and who were actually being rather polite and non-confrontational under some very trying circumstances… That was the video that proved Phillips was lying. And that was the video he never thought would exist. And if that longer video hadn’t existed, Phillips would have succeeded in the technique that Professor Jacobson has described, because no one would have believed the students against the word of this righteous Native American elderly guy. No wonder Phillips is now muttering that he won’t have an Obama-style “beer summit” (root beer summit?) with the Covington kids because “He (Sandmann) stole my narrative.” Somebody stole his narrative, but the rules of the identity politics left gives him no choice who to blame. . WELL, THAT’S THE TRUTH: Joy Behar: We jumped to conclusions about the Covington Catholic kids because we desperately want Trump out of office. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: it's just stupid garbage I find it highly disturbing. I'm afraid things like this are taken too lightly. I almost took to FB, myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Attempts by some in the media (and random people online) to find any embarrassing moment involving anyone remotely associated with Covington, no matter how long ago or unrelated or misleadingly put forth, is almost a worse smear than the initial one. Concern over having this boy show up for the NBC interview Quote PoliMath @politicalmath FollowFollow @politicalmath PoliMath Retweeted TODAYSHOW Do not do this. Do not let your kids do combative interviews with media figures. I would never in a million years allow these ***** vultures do this to my kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Tibs loves Big Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jim-carrey-takes-covington-students-214104635.html Hes gone full Lloyd Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Rob's House said: Nice try, lady, but the Goonies got it first. And Goonies never say die. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Rob's House said: Get in her face and bang on a drum and I'll bet she goes completely ballistic over being assaulted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, The_Dude said: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jim-carrey-takes-covington-students-214104635.html Hes gone full Lloyd Christmas. These are kids being attacked by Hollywood rich *****. This is surreal to normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Violence is the only solution. It’s the only answer. These liberal bastards. I go to Iraq to kill Haj and then they start importing Haj on an epic scale like 9/11 never freaking happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Ya....well there are also videos of the MAGA teen squad acting like total effing dbags before the whole native American thing....so there is that.... Wait - MAGA hat not so cool anymore - come on bro - REPRESENT! ^^^^ Another douche who thinks it’s okay to bully minors. Pull yourself together, you sound like a kook 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: ^^^^ Another douche who thinks it’s okay to bully minors. Pull yourself together, you sound like a kook TH3 aka Baskin didn't bother to give us a video link to those boys misdeeds. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Not stolen valor and I'm ashamed to say he was a Marine, but stories of him being recon are total bullsh1t unless they had recon training in the El Toro brig where he liked to hang out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, TH3 said: So tell me.....Are we saying... Nah, we're all just saying that you're still a ***** moron, you ***** moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 11:55 AM, 3rdnlng said: The hate was multiplied by 10 just because of the hat that he wore. Without the hats I doubt this would have been even picked up by the media. It certainly wouldn't be seen as the brouhaha they made it out to be. this is what I was thinking. If they had been wearing Cubs hats it would be nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: ^^^^ Another douche who thinks it’s okay to bully minors. Pull yourself together, you sound like a kook What if it was a minor calling for gun control? It would be ok then right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, reddogblitz said: this is what I was thinking. If they had been wearing Cubs hats it would be nothing. I did notice the one kid with a Dolphins hat. I assume he was raised that way, and am not going to recommend running him through a wood chipper. His parents, though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 hours ago, teef said: i'm on the other end. at 5'9", and very adorable, i don't think anyone has been intimidated by me ever. if anything, i'm oddly approachable. I'm 6'2 ⅜. I'm fairly built. Not a giant or monster but I'm not fat/obese and when I'm in shape or like I'm getting back in to now I definitely show it. This causes people at bars who want to do something to stare me down, single me out or look to get my attention. Generally I don't even care, sometimes I intentionally loosen them up and disarm them/de-escalate because I just don't want to have to bother and, well, believe it or not, I'm easy going as hell and approachable to many. Though, others see me as intimidating as ***** and compare me to the demeanor of Jason Statham in his normal role. Anyway, my point is, it's about the confidence - not size - that you exude which makes people want to challenge or enter your space. 9 hours ago, row_33 said: I'm 6'6" or a bit taller, drifting from 270 to 310 depending on my feelings about eating and drinking sugary stuff for the past few months. I keep to myself and try to be pleasant if i'm forced into an unwanted discussion. i do unintentionally bump into people or door frames due to my huge wingspan, when someone whirls around in anger and sees me they quickly change the look on their face and i say "sorry" and all is fine... cowards.... I haaate bumping in to doors and walls. I've broken 2 in the last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I'm 6'2 ⅜. I'm fairly built. Not a giant or monster but I'm not fat/obese and when I'm in shape or like I'm getting back in to now I definitely show it. This causes people at bars who want to do something to stare me down, single me out or look to get my attention. Generally I don't even care, sometimes I intentionally loosen them up and disarm them/de-escalate because I just don't want to have to bother and, well, believe it or not, I'm easy going as hell and approachable to many. Though, others see me as intimidating as ***** and compare me to the demeanor of Jason Statham in his normal role. Anyway, my point is, it's about the confidence - not size - that you exude which makes people want to challenge or enter your space. I haaate bumping in to doors and walls. I've broken 2 in the last year. I'm bigger than both of you, and I don't bump in to anything. What the hell's wrong with you two? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I'm bigger than both of you, and I don't bump in to anything. What the hell's wrong with you two? People usually step to the side for ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I'm bigger than both of you, and I don't bump in to anything. What the hell's wrong with you two? I'm 6' and I break at least 3 doors a year. Believe it or not, the shorter you are the more easy it is to smash through doors like a kool-aid man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I'm bigger than both of you, and I don't bump in to anything. What the hell's wrong with you two? I don't pay attention for one. And I am careless. I was sleep walking from taking a piss years ago and didn't know where I was... I accidentally ran my foot through the wall. I woke up quick. Hurt like hell. You're also old and probably have osteoporosis and other old people diseases so you have to be careful. I still love the one member who did meet you, Rosen, said I could be kin to you because we somewhat look the same in stature and build kind of thing. I find that funny, because I can't imagine you this good looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Paulus said: I'm 6' and I break at least 3 doors a year. Believe it or not, the shorter you are the more easy it is to smash through doors like a kool-aid man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Nathan Phillips’s Interview with CNN Is Full of Falsehoods, Inconsistencies, and Nonsense. He’s a disgrace to the tribe of which he’s allegedly an “elder.” They should be ashamed to be represented by such a sad sack. Quote John CardilloVerified account @johncardillo FollowFollow @johncardillo Navy SEAL Don Shipley who calls out stolen valor obtained Nathan Phillips DD-214. Phillips was a USMC Reservist who never left the U.S., and went AWOL numerous times. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 13 hours ago, B-Man said: We have now reached the “Bargaining” phase of the “5 Stages of Grief That You Shared An Internet Hoax,” which is when you pivot to smaller allegations in an attempt to justify the original mob. The smartest ones drop truth altogether and pivot to “the larger context.” Think of them as Narrative Maintenance Technicians for the left and it all makes sense. The purpose of this is to quell any pangs of conscience lefties might have felt for going after those boys now that the truth is out, by telling them that even if these Covington boys were innocent, others, sometime, somewhere were guilty of something. Orwellian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Tiberius said: An assclown, how original. They were chanting insulting stuff. You may not be old enough to remember, but I remember when people used to say "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight for your right to say i t." this was all freedom speech . The guy yelling "Mexicans go home. Puerto Ricans to home.". Whatever the kids were chanting. The Indians doing their song. No one punched or shoved anyone. what is the big freakin' deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Boyst62 said: I'm 6'2 ⅜. I'm fairly built. Not a giant or monster but I'm not fat/obese and when I'm in shape or like I'm getting back in to now I definitely show it. This causes people at bars who want to do something to stare me down, single me out or look to get my attention. Generally I don't even care, sometimes I intentionally loosen them up and disarm them/de-escalate because I just don't want to have to bother and, well, believe it or not, I'm easy going as hell and approachable to many. Though, others see me as intimidating as ***** and compare me to the demeanor of Jason Statham in his normal role. Anyway, my point is, it's about the confidence - not size - that you exude which makes people want to challenge or enter your space. I haaate bumping in to doors and walls. I've broken 2 in the last year. are you 27 ₁/₂ too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, Foxx said: are you 27 ₁/₂ too? 1/1068th, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: You may not be old enough to remember, but I remember when people used to say "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight for your right to say i t." this was all freedom speech . The guy yelling "Mexicans go home. Puerto Ricans to home.". Whatever the kids were chanting. The Indians doing their song. No one punched or shoved anyone. what is the big freakin' deal? This is all stupid. I'm glad no one was hurt but the reaction is out of hand. Threats to the school are just ridiculous. The kid was on NBC last night and seems like a typical kid that age just got caught in a messed up situation. 6 hours ago, B-Man said: Nathan Phillips’s Interview with CNN Is Full of Falsehoods, Inconsistencies, and Nonsense. He’s a disgrace to the tribe of which he’s allegedly an “elder.” They should be ashamed to be represented by such a sad sack. . I never heard you complain about Trump's lies. I mean seriously, YOU are complaining about someone you say is not being honest?? You are sure a piece of work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I saw an interview with the young man and Savhanna Guthrie today. He did quite well, obviously nervous, while she was just what you would expect a journalist for NBC to be. Lots of questions about feelings, questions about whether or not he should apologize to someone for standing where he was standing, and of course a question to a kid about the "smirk" after he was singled-out of a crowd by an activist looking to engage in conflict. She did ask if he felt he should have walked away, though not in the context of whether he should walk away after this activist approached him. The implication was he should relinquish he space on the sidewalk to someone else. No time for references by SG to Twitter cowards threatening him, or the Hollywood types calling for violence against him. When he mentioned threats against he and his family, no follow up questions. She's a dullard and a horrible interviewer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Libels of and threats to Covington Kids will face Kentucky justice By Thomas Lifson The ongoing campaign of hate against children from Kentucky guilty of being Catholic, (mostly) white and wearing MAGA caps will not end until there are legal consequences. Fortunately, the wheels of justice already are turning in Kentucky, albeit at a pace that is frustrating to those who operate at internet speed. But the prospect of Kentuckian jurors judging those who libel or threaten their children is delightful. There are two separate avenues available, and both are being explored by people ready and willing to act. The more serious path to legal relief was articulated by Kenton County (which contains Covington) prosecutor Rob Sanders. Gateway Pundit reports: “We’ve got multiple ongoing investigations into numerous, numerous threats,” Mr. Sanders said Tuesday in a podcast interview with 700 WLW. “There’s probably a dozen law enforcement agencies, if not more involved in this — it’s growing, it’s spreading, there are other jurisdictions now involved in this,” Sanders added. 700 WLW radio host Willie Cunningham brought up the death threats towards the Covington teens made by bluecheck verified accounts on Twitter and asked Mr. Sanders about Kentucky law. (snip) “What is the Kentucky law about making threats to Covington Catholic specifically? Is there a law against it?” Willie asked Rob Sanders. Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/libels_of_and_threats_to_covington_kids_will_face_kentucky_justice.html#ixzz5dRWqsgLc Nathan Phillips rally attempted to disrupt Basilica Mass... Washington D.C., Jan 22, 2019 / 03:58 pm (CNA).- While chanting and playing ceremonial drums, a group of Native American rights activists reportedly led by Nathan Phillips attempted Jan. 19 to enter Washington, D.C.’s Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception during a Saturday evening Mass (He must have been trying to "calm things down") 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 A cheque for $20,000,000 would start to ease the pain of being lynched by the media for no reason. Donate it to a worthy conservative cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) After days of outrage and condemnations, the Covington affair has revealed a disturbing bigotry among far too many media figures and outlets on the left. The Bigotry At The Heart Of The Covington Affair Belongs To The Left At a few days’ remove from the Covington Catholic High School incident at the Lincoln Memorial, we can be reasonably sure there will be no other apologies or corrections forthcoming from the major media outlets that rushed to vilify the students involved. The New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, and dozens of lesser news organizations that condemned the high schoolers from Kentucky have not retracted or walked back their initial, warped narrative: that racist white teens harassed an elderly Native American man. Nor will there be any public contrition from many individual members of the media who were in the vanguard of the online mob. CNN’s Reza Aslan tweeted an image of one of the boys and asked, “Have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kid’s?” Filmmaker Michael Green tweeted the same image with the comment, “A face like that never changes. This image will define his life. No one need ever forgive him.” Despite additional video footage that largely exonerated the students, neither of those public figures have deleted their tweets or apologized. Same for James Fallows at The Atlantic, who initially compared the high schoolers to Arkansas segregationists in the 1950s then doubled down, noting that because the kids were white and wearing “Make America Great Again” hats, they must be guilty. Although some journalists have recanted at length, and others have apologized and deleted their early, emotionally charged reactions, plenty of others have not and will not. They believe that whatever the video footage actually reveals about the incident— specifically, that the elderly Native American man, Nathan Phillips, approached the kids and initiated a confrontation after they had been harassed by a bizarre racist group called the Black Hebrew Israelites—is irrelevant to what they say is the larger point: that “privileged” white teenage boys who wear MAGA hats are racist bigots and deserve no mercy. The Covington kids are certainly getting none. They and their families have been doxxed, harassed, and threatened for days on end. On Tuesday, Covington Catholic High School was closed over security concerns. It’s hard not to see the parallels here to the Brett Kavanaugh affair, the Rolling Stone-UVA rape hoax, and the Duke Lacrosse scandal. In all these cases, the rush to judgement hinged on the race and perceived privilege of the accused. They were guilty not based on the facts of what happened, they were guilty because of who they were: supposedly privileged white males. The Covington high schoolers were in this sense the perfect villain for the social justice outrage mob. Not only were they mostly white, male, and Catholic, the entire reason they were in Washington was to attend the annual March for Life. {SNIP} Here we get to the heart of the Covington affair. For the social justice left, including many mainstream media figures, holding conservative views on abortion or marriage automatically makes you a bigot. Even apart from any views you espouse, simply wearing a MAGA hat makes you a bigot. And being a white male, together with any of the above, makes you the worst of bigots. And you don’t apologize to bigots. You destroy them. . Edited January 23, 2019 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 They are idiots, the liberals have more superstitions than a medieval peasant. And they can't even remotely realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I saw an interview with the young man and Savhanna Guthrie today. He did quite well, obviously nervous, while she was just what you would expect a journalist for NBC to be. Lots of questions about feelings, questions about whether or not he should apologize to someone for standing where he was standing, and of course a question to a kid about the "smirk" after he was singled-out of a crowd by an activist looking to engage in conflict. She did ask if he felt he should have walked away, though not in the context of whether he should walk away after this activist approached him. The implication was he should relinquish he space on the sidewalk to someone else. No time for references by SG to Twitter cowards threatening him, or the Hollywood types calling for violence against him. When he mentioned threats against he and his family, no follow up questions. She's a dullard and a horrible interviewer. And, I saw her getting crushed on twitter yesterday by leftists - for giving this bigoted hat wearing kid a platform. Normalizing him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, bbb said: And, I saw her getting crushed on twitter yesterday by leftists - for giving this bigoted hat wearing kid a platform. Normalizing him! That's why I don't go on Twitter, a bunch of morons calling a hat bigoted will just make a person dumber. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That's why I don't go on Twitter, a bunch of morons calling a hat bigoted will just make a person dumber. it's all just stupid garbage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: This is all stupid. I'm glad no one was hurt but the reaction is out of hand. Threats to the school are just ridiculous. The kid was on NBC last night and seems like a typical kid that age just got caught in a messed up situation. So now is the part where you apologize for being a nimrod ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: This is all stupid. I'm glad no one was hurt but the reaction is out of hand. Threats to the school are just ridiculous. The kid was on NBC last night and seems like a typical kid that age just got caught in a messed up situation. too late now, people on TV are able to dictate that minors can be assaulted by name and address and school 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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