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LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 God I wish we could hire Palmer to replace Culley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: God I wish we could hire Palmer to replace Culley. Or to supplement him. From what I've ready, Culley is good at breaking down defenses in the film room. Palmer is good at QB biomechanics. Two very different, complementary skill sets. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 So long as Palmer is not on the staff, Josh can work with Palmer all he wants during the off-season. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Love this kid, can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) “He’s an old guy but he’s pretty awesome.” Allen bone-r Edited December 31, 2018 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Props to Brandon Beane for this pick. If you can find franchise QBs consistently it means you're worth your salt as a GM. I'm very curious about the plan for Allen going forward, itll be very interesting to see what kind of team we build around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 56 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: So long as Palmer is not on the staff, Josh can work with Palmer all he wants during the off-season. Who has more access than a coach (under the current CBA) would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Or to supplement him. From what I've ready, Culley is good at breaking down defenses in the film room. Palmer is good at QB biomechanics. Two very different, complementary skill sets. This is the one of only two major mistakes I think this FO and McD have made and that's having a lifetime WR coach as your rookie franchise QB's coach. Mistake with a kid who needs work on his mechanics as much as the mental side of the game. That and their mess on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Or to supplement him. From what I've ready, Culley is good at breaking down defenses in the film room. Palmer is good at QB biomechanics. Two very different, complementary skill sets. Culley was always known as a fundamentals and mechanics coach too and he was a D1 QB They both emphasize footwork and upper body mechanics as well as the mental aspects of the game couldn’t hurt to have the most help, but Culley was always a fundamentals coach and Allen certainly played well for a green rookie with not many weapons . His footwork while inconsistent vastly improved over the season and so did his upper body mechanics Daboll , Culley and Co certainly are doing a pretty good job of developing him right now and he’s certainly ahead of schedule i give credit where it’s due and think Culley is doing a good job developing Allen right now 19 minutes ago, zonabb said: This is the one of only two major mistakes I think this FO and McD have made and that's having a lifetime WR coach as your rookie franchise QB's coach. Mistake with a kid who needs work on his mechanics as much as the mental side of the game. That and their mess on the OL. Culley was a D1 QB who is known to be a great teacher of fundamentals and mechanics . he can coach anything on offense Edited December 31, 2018 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Culley was always known as a fundamentals and mechanics coach too and he was a D1 QB They both emphasize footwork and upper body mechanics as well as the mental aspects of the game couldn’t hurt to have the most help, but Culley was always a fundamentals coach and Allen certainly played well for a green rookie with not many weapons . His footwork while inconsistent vastly improved over the season and so did his upper body mechanics Daboll , Culley and Co certainly are doing a pretty good job of developing him right now and he’s certainly ahead of schedule i give credit where it’s due and think Culley is doing a good job developing Allen right now I defer to your insight here. Anderson seems to have been a helpful presence as well. Nothing will help more than an improved oline, a #1 wr, a te, and a rb under thirty who is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Dr. Who said: I defer to your insight here. Anderson seems to have been a helpful presence as well. Nothing will help more than an improved oline, a #1 wr, a te, and a rb under thirty who is good. Of course. Anderson has been in the league for a decade.. you don’t make it that long if you cannot play and help your team he brings invaluable insight because he has seen every single defense and faced every situation... not to mention when he had to play , he was always a good spot starter... that’s hard to find in the league.. he can show Josh the work Ethic it takes to make it a decade in the league and how to be a pro Surround Josh with talent and I think he will be amazing.. he carried this offense this year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, zonabb said: This is the one of only two major mistakes I think this FO and McD have made and that's having a lifetime WR coach as your rookie franchise QB's coach. Mistake with a kid who needs work on his mechanics as much as the mental side of the game. That and their mess on the OL. Allen improved vastly from beginning of the season to the end, and made large strides the past six weeks. Culley must be doing some good work. Or is only the mistakes Allen makes that are supposed to be credited to Culley? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I love this kid, he is so 'Buffalo'. Just get him some support Beane. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Props to Brandon Beane for this pick. If you can find franchise QBs consistently it means you're worth your salt as a GM. I'm very curious about the plan for Allen going forward, itll be very interesting to see what kind of team we build around him. LUCKY I like Beane and MCD and feel like the team finally did get it right there. But finding a QB is more luck than anything. If the GM of NE was so smart why did he wait until the 6th round to draft Brady, why not take him in the 3rd to make sure they had him. Excluding Indy twice (Peyton and Luck) Rams with Goff and a small handful others taken at #1 when you look at the rate of finding very good to great QB's the rate is less than 50% so when you do get him it's more luck than anything. Why did Beane wait until #7 to get Allen, someone easily could have jumped ahead of them. If that had happened, at the time he likely would have been almost as happy with Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: LUCKY I like Beane and MCD and feel like the team finally did get it right there. But finding a QB is more luck than anything. If the GM of NE was so smart why did he wait until the 6th round to draft Brady, why not take him in the 3rd to make sure they had him. Excluding Indy twice (Peyton and Luck) Rams with Goff and a small handful others taken at #1 when you look at the rate of finding very good to great QB's the rate is less than 50% so when you do get him it's more luck than anything. Why did Beane wait until #7 to get Allen, someone easily could have jumped ahead of them. If that had happened, at the time he likely would have been almost as happy with Rosen. It's not luck. I knew Mayfield, Allen and Darnold to a lesser extent would be good QBs. That's not what impressed me. What impressed me was how ballsy Beane was to get his guy. I like that. Levi Wallace is also proof that Beane is an extremely competent GM. He nailed picks throughout the draft and also signed Jordan Phillips off of waivers. If Beane was fired tomorrow, a dozen teams would be in hot pursuit. He will never be out of a job. I'd fire McD loooooooooong before I'd fire Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, stosh64 said: I love this kid, he is so 'Buffalo'. Just get him some support Beane. The music they play for this video is perfect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: The music they play for this video is perfect Right?? So fitting. Edited January 1, 2019 by stosh64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 that was nice of him to lie about his O-Line like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, zonabb said: This is the one of only two major mistakes I think this FO and McD have made and that's having a lifetime WR coach as your rookie franchise QB's coach. Mistake with a kid who needs work on his mechanics as much as the mental side of the game. That and their mess on the OL. Our QB seems to be developing ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Props to Brandon Beane for this pick. If you can find franchise QBs consistently it means you're worth your salt as a GM. I'm very curious about the plan for Allen going forward, itll be very interesting to see what kind of team we build around him. The 2017 draft was loaded at the QB position. It could become a historic year. All the rookie QBs have struggled but have also showed significant promise to their embattled franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The 2017 draft was loaded at the QB position. It could become a historic year. All the rookie QBs have struggled but have also showed significant promise to their embattled franchise. I think there will be 3 franchise QBs: Darnold, Allen and Mayfield. If Beane lost out on Allen I think his career as a GM would come to an end. I think he got the last good one in the draft. I think Rosen will be a career journeyman and I think Jackson will find short term success but will fail long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: It's not luck. I knew Mayfield, Allen and Darnold to a lesser extent would be good QBs. That's not what impressed me. What impressed me was how ballsy Beane was to get his guy. I like that. Levi Wallace is also proof that Beane is an extremely competent GM. He nailed picks throughout the draft and also signed Jordan Phillips off of waivers. If Beane was fired tomorrow, a dozen teams would be in hot pursuit. He will never be out of a job. I'd fire McD loooooooooong before I'd fire Beane. I don't disagree with anything you say about Beane. I too think he is doing a very good job and unlike some here would be very sorry to see him or McD go, but when it comes to QB, still say it's more luck when you look at how many high picks flame out. It's not that all these other GM's are clueless/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Josh is everything I think we hoped for and more. He’s well spoken, a hard worker, and has a sense of humor lol. He showed real leadership and the ability to takeover a game. I look forward to seeing what he’s capable of when he has others on the team who can make plays for him. A screen for a 30 yard gain. A 45 yard contested catch. A long run? Instead of everything on his shoulders the entire game being able to rely on anyone else to make a play and dare I say takeover the game at their position. I am happy with what he has shown for his rookie season and while everyone should have some concerns with his game I don’t think anyone can say he was disappointing. And the send off for the off season vs Miami will give me even more hope for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Think about it, HE WAS THE OFFENSE! Besides him, every other aspect of the offense could stand a significant upgrade: o-line, WRs, RBs, TE. There is not one other area on the offense that is in the top 20 of the NFL. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, CSBill said: Think about it, HE WAS THE OFFENSE! Besides him, every other aspect of the offense could stand a significant upgrade: o-line, WRs, RBs, TE. There is not one other area on the offense that is in the top 20 of the NFL. Well said ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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