Stank_Nasty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: He didn't get enough on that pass IMO. Clay would have had to come out of the endzone to catch that, which IMO he should have because no one was close enough to him to stop him before he got back in. It was a dropped ball, but also a bad throw. right. he needs to start wedging the balls into the players facemasks so our sorry wr's and te's don't actually need to make a routine play on the balls they are thrown. my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: Get out Troll. Seek Life Else Where. So because I don't agree 100% with whatever you say, you get to label me a troll? That's offensive tbh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I have a feeling WhyteDwarf is AllenWillBust. We haven't seen AllenWillBust much since Allen's game has been improving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: To all completion % snobs. JA has no rb, TE, slot receiver to throw screens and dump offs too and the line is not athletic enough for screens. These throws pad comp % JA pushes the ball down the field. He will have high yards per attempt / YPC numbers but lower comp % Thats fine with me especially for the time being... As time goes on and our line is better and can actually block for screens and we get more players that can be a safety valve for JA his numbers will go up. That coupled with better receivers/tight end that can catch more reliably. But low 60 high 50 % may be the ceiling for his type of down field attack game... Right. Its how often we are throwing over 15-20 yards matters Just now, WhyteDwarf said: So because I don't agree 100% with whatever you say, you get to label me a troll? That's offensive tbh. No because it is obvious. this is well beyond opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: So because I don't agree 100% with whatever you say, you get to label me a troll? That's offensive tbh. no. its 100% because of the ignorant takes you are spewing onto the board over the last day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: no. its 100% because of the ignorant takes you are spewing onto the board over the last day. Wanting Allen to be a better passer is an ignorant take, I'll make sure to write that down lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: He's 4-5 as a starter right? I'm going to use a phrase/ question used by a former poster (also banned) What banned poster are you? 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Wanting Allen to be a better passer is an ignorant take, I'll make sure to write that down lol. you sure are on a troll for being on probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: he is 4-5 because of the trash out there we have catching the ball he is 4-5 because he is a rookie he is 4-5 because he is RAW talent with much to learn he is 4-5 because of the trash offensive line we have. Most Bills fans get this, A troll on the other hand would point out stupid facts like this,. Thus one would wonder.. With the amount of posts you have saying "He's 4-5 as a starter right?" is going to make people think you are a troll. He's also 4-5 as a rookie with a team that has been favored in 2 out of 14 games, is 4-4 in games he completed, and with a team that is 1-5 when any other QB has played a significant time. There's nothing definitive yet, but it's a pretty promising start to a career. I find it hard not to be excited about the upcoming prospects of a team who overachieved its (admittedly negligible) expectations with an exciting, dynamic young QB, a top defense with most if not all likely returning next year, an abundance of salary cap room and draft picks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Wanting Allen to be a better passer is an ignorant take, I'll make sure to write that down lol. no. not taking into account the trash heap he has around him and in front of him is though. i'm don't fattening up the troll though. somebody else can toss the table scraps for here on out. have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: no. not taking into account the trash heap he has around him and in front of him is though. i'm don't fattening up the troll though. somebody else can toss the table scraps for here on out. have a nice day. that was being to nice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: no. not taking into account the trash heap he has around him and in front of him is though. i'm don't fattening up the troll though. somebody else can toss the table scraps for here on out. have a nice day. Is it really a "trash heap" all around him? Really? Somehow I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: But didn't he also say when you adjust all other QB's completion percentage in the same manner Allen is 23rd on the list? YAY? 23rd...did you consider he has the worst talent in the league on offense. Like 32nd out of 32 teams. Edited December 17, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: He's 4-5 as a starter right? Actually 4-4 in games he started and finished. He left in the 3rd Q of the Houston game with the Bills trailing 10-3. The Bills scored a FG on the drive on which he was injured to make it 10-6, then we know what happened afterwards. QB wins and losses are solely based upon who started the game so it is what it is, but Allen had the Bills "in position" when he was hurt. All of that nonsense aside, when you look at the talent around him on offense for Allen to be essentially a .500 QB in his rookie season is impressive (to me). The "problem" with Josh Allen is that so many people are completely invested in him being a bust because they didn't like his "advanced stats" predictors that they will continue to look for the negatives until he wins an MVP or throws for 40 TDs with an 80% completion percentage. It's sad. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: Is it really a "trash heap" all around him? Really? Somehow I doubt that. you doubt that this team has been labeled having the worst WR base in the game? you doubt that we are the bottom end on the offensive line? you doubt that McCoy is an aging RB? Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Some people are especially bitter and suspicious after 17+ years of mediocrity. It’s understandable. They will come around to our moxie-filled offensive leader in their own time. Eventually the wins will come and this will finally be put to rest. GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: 23rd...did you consider he has the worst talent in the league on offense. Like 32nd our of 32 teams. Is that really true though? Or is that something people just like to say? Yes, at WR they are nowhere, but is the OL really trash? Is Shady trash? Edited December 17, 2018 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, eball said: Actually 4-4 in games he started and finished. He left in the 3rd Q of the Houston game with the Bills trailing 10-3. The Bills scored a FG on the drive on which he was injured to make it 10-6, then we know what happened afterwards. QB wins and losses are solely based upon who started the game so it is what it is, but Allen had the Bills "in position" when he was hurt. All of that nonsense aside, when you look at the talent around him on offense for Allen to be essentially a .500 QB in his rookie season is impressive (to me). The "problem" with Josh Allen is that so many people are completely invested in him being a bust because they didn't like his "advanced stats" predictors that they will continue to look for the negatives until he wins an MVP or throws for 40 TDs with an 80% completion percentage. It's sad. We were projected to be a 4-12 team with a vet at QB and Allen not starting....because we didn't have much talent on offense. .500 with Allen, who wasn't supposed to start is actually really good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, WhyteDwarf said: Is that really true though? Or is that something people just like to say? Yes, at WR they are nowhere, but is the OL really trash. Is Shady trash? Shady is aging. are you even a Bills fan? cause a Bills fan would know this. Shady has also become Injury prone... again do to age. Look at his numbers this year. go away troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Is that really true though? Or is that something people just like to say? Yes, at WR they are nowhere, but is the OL really trash? Is Shady trash? We're 32nd in the league in spending for offensive lineman. Our 10 offensive lineman make $13 million total. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, eball said: Actually 4-4 in games he started and finished. He left in the 3rd Q of the Houston game with the Bills trailing 10-3. The Bills scored a FG on the drive on which he was injured to make it 10-6, then we know what happened afterwards. QB wins and losses are solely based upon who started the game so it is what it is, but Allen had the Bills "in position" when he was hurt. All of that nonsense aside, when you look at the talent around him on offense for Allen to be essentially a .500 QB in his rookie season is impressive (to me). The "problem" with Josh Allen is that so many people are completely invested in him being a bust because they didn't like his "advanced stats" predictors that they will continue to look for the negatives until he wins an MVP or throws for 40 TDs with an 80% completion percentage. It's sad. My issue is with the "Allen will be great once they get rid of the trash" crowd. I don't think it's that simple. Allen needs to be a better passer than what he has shown so far IMO. 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Shady is aging. are you even a Bills fan? cause a Bills fan would know this. Shady has also become Injury prone... again do to age. Look at his numbers this year. go away troll. I think you need to stop calling me a ***** troll *****. Just because I don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We were projected to be a 4-12 team with a vet at QB and Allen not starting....because we didn't have much talent on offense. .500 with Allen, who wasn't supposed to start is actually really good. That is true. We've done 1 better thus far. Maybe we can do 2 better by season end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We were projected to be a 4-12 team with a vet at QB and Allen not starting....because we didn't have much talent on offense. .500 with Allen, who wasn't supposed to start is actually really good. Good point. Add the fact that his teammates and coaches have, quite literally, raved about his leadership and ability. Matt Patricia called Allen a "great" player in his postgame PC yesterday. The Bills fans who are also invested in being Allen detractors are just going to need to figure out what they are more interested in doing -- rooting for the Bills and an exciting young QB, or touting their pathetic pessimism on message boards. I continue to believe that if the internet had been around when Jim Kelly joined the Bills there would have been at least 20% of the fan base who would have wanted him benched. Edited December 17, 2018 by eball 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We're 32nd in the league in spending for offensive lineman. Our 10 offensive lineman make $13 million total. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/ Same with Wide Receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: he's a clay drop in the endzone from having more wins than losses. just stop Alright then he is also a Titans dropped TD from being 4-5 again. Works both ways. Can't just look at the one score losses and say we should have won unless you look at the one score wins and say we could have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: My issue is with the "Allen will be great once they get rid of the trash" crowd. I don't think it's that simple. Allen needs to be a better passer than what he has shown so far IMO. I think you need to stop calling me a ***** troll *****. Just because I don't agree with you. your posts do come off as trolling. that seems to be the concusses of long time posters ... probationary poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: 23rd...did you consider he has the worst talent in the league on offense. Like 32nd out of 32 teams. I actually think it's time SkyDiver comes back and takes a bow re: Foster. Something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: I think you need to stop calling me a ***** troll *****. Just because I don't agree with you. Then Adjust your thinking back down to earth. you make dumb comments questions like "Yes, at WR they are nowhere, but is the OL really trash?" "Is Shady Trash" Dumb questions from a Bills fan. Your Take on everything is one a troll would say. Get used to be called troll till you start making points that make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Same with Wide Receivers. Good lord....our total for all 5 active WR is $2.8 million dollars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Same with Wide Receivers. Wait, are they not all on rookie contracts for the most part? I think it's pretty obvious they neglected WR this past offseason. Though I really hate dipping into free agents to build a team, some of that ~80 million needs to go towards WR. They can't fix the group by picking one guy in the 2nd round. 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Then Adjust your thinking back down to earth. you make dumb comments questions like "Yes, at WR they are nowhere, but is the OL really trash?" "Is Shady Trash" Dumb questions from a Bills fan. Your Take on everything is one a troll would say. Get used to be called troll till you start making points that make sense. Shady is far from trash IMO. And don't tell me how to post. Edited December 17, 2018 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Good lord....our total for all 5 active WR is $2.8 million dollars. so let me get this right. any person with any kind of brain that is a bills fain would not have to ask if the people around him are trash right? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: He's 4-5 as a starter right? He would be 5-4 if not for a Clay drop against the Dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Buffalo03 said: He would be 5-4 if not for a Clay drop against the Dolphins Or if the pass was better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Is it really a "trash heap" all around him? Really? Somehow I doubt that. Do you have a point somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: stats only tell a short part of the story. That's why there is analytics.. you look at the stats and the context of the situation they are in. Statistics are like bikinis, they reveal a lot, but not everything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Though I really hate dipping into free agents to build a team, some of that ~80 million needs to go towards WR Shady is far from trash IMO.And don't tell me how to post. I will cause what your doing and saying makes No sense. You really think we are going to spend 80 million on WR in FA when we have Needs on Offensive line to? Do you really think we will have 80 million after contracts are paid out to keep some of what we have? You are trying to make sense in your post.. Now.. you are yet.. 80 Million on WR this year? that would be just as bad of a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The QBs change but the arguments always stay the same. LOL QB record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, TH3 said: Do you have a point somewhere? He needs a hug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, TH3 said: Do you have a point somewhere? Yeah, that the rest of the team being trash is a crutch IMO. 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: The QBs change but the arguments always stay the same. LOL QB record. What would change things is a QB that wins games, then the "discussion" could progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said: Or if the pass was better Throwing it 40 yards downfield plus another 30 yards across the field from across his body? Kind of hard to put that on him. Could it have been better? Sure I guess but how many NFL QBs actually get that ball anywhere close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 So whytedwarf is the new guy who tries too hard. Got it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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