Roundybout Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They lack a pass rush. Reason I wouldn't be opposed if they go pass rusher with their most likely top 10 pick. Ed Oliver is going to look so good in royal blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: It's funny how these threads are always started by people with less than 50 posts. For real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, vorpma said: Whatever! I will give you credit..........you at least have the balls to be honest about your ingratitude to the man whose permission you requested to be on here. Your buddy Domdab99 he has considerably less courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 51 minutes ago, vorpma said: This board has some great members but it also has some that I honestly believe following the Bills and the NFL is nothing more than a passing fancy and it shows in there posts! The worst to me are those who B word about a missed penalty on every ***** play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I will give you credit..........you at least have the balls to be honest about your ingratitude to the man whose permission you requested to be on here. Your buddy Domdab99 he has considerably less courage. I have no buddies and offer opinions, like all on this board, only opinions!! 38 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: You guys have an inside joke going? Hilarious! Here is a quote from the PM your buddy @Domdabb99 sent me: lol are you for real, Skippy? I come here to troll you idiots. that's it. Tell whoever you want, I don't give a *****. I frequent real Bills discussion sites and threads. This place is a disgrace. Imagine being so caught up in a stupid web forum like you obviously are. My Lord. remember, you're an adult...time to act like it No idea what you are talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 There are very good players on the defense. It’s 100% Fraiser. The same reason he’s been run out of every other place. Complete soft shell bull ***** that will just get carved by any patient QB. Looks good against erratic passers. Destroyed by accurate pocket passers. The DC is a major problem and Mcd should have just taken over the defense after week 2. We will just stick with him and fall apart like the panthers defense is now. Just like the Oline coach and the STs cord, Mcd will stick with guys that continue to underwhelm. Choosing the right staff is a very important aspect of being a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, vorpma said: I have no buddies and offer opinions, like all on this board, only opinions!! No idea what you are talking about! Except OldAflGuy ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Bill's defense gave up 14 ST gave up 13 Our ST have wet themselves all year. Including today they've cost us 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, tuckan said: They gave up an 85 yard drive and 60 yard drive in the second half. Gangrene was 3 of 4 in the red zone. 75 percent is horrible. They rank 25th in red zone defense. Created one turnover today. Seriously, did anybody thing they would hold a three point lead against a rookie QB coming of injury no less? Please address these points before pointing to other parts of the team(offense, special teams) which we can all agree were less than stellar..... We have a post count? The defense isn’t as elite as some would have you believe. Three weeks in a row they haven’t been able to stop, Bortles, Tannehill, and Darnold ( a veritable murders’ row of NFL Quarterbacks) on last minute drives. Those DVOA stats must be misleading. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, vorpma said: I have no buddies and offer opinions, like all on this board, only opinions!! No idea what you are talking about! Right.......your opinion is you don't care about the opinion of the owner of the site(read "whatever")..........you didn't have to tell SDS off but you went out of your way to. That's ingratitude. I quoted Domdab99 because you were praising him for his "seriousness" as a Bills fan..................when he clearly stated he's just here to troll people...........which is the exact opposite of that. So.......you are wrong. He also tells me "You think I give a ***** who's site this is?" That's also ingratitude. You two requested his permission to be here............have some respect for your position as guests on this free, but privately owned forum. Edited December 10, 2018 by BADOLBILZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Rufridr101 said: Cornerbacks and safeties are continually tackling running backs.tremaine Edmunds is not a middle linebacker he's an outside linebacker. Hopefully they put him in Milano's spot to finish the year. Dead on about Tremaine, I dont know why they thought he was a middle to begin with. I almost thought that jobber ILB for the Jets who quicksand'ed on the McKenzie TD wa as emulating Edmunds. He just came diagnose the play in the hole. Some of it is leverage and some of it is just inability to keep track of the ball. The Bill's have done well when they could slide him over a shade and have milano stack a tackle. Tremaine should be weak and be able to use length and speed to disrupt passing lanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: It's funny how these threads are always started by people with less than 50 posts. Maybe not always, but usually. What kind of person walks into a new room and screams to get attention? No real knowledge was shared here. It wasn’t like “excuse me, but did you know there is fire leaping out of the upstairs windows?” This is more “I’m new here, and everybody needs to look at me!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckan Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe not always, but usually. What kind of person walks into a new room and screams to get attention? No real knowledge was shared here. It wasn’t like “excuse me, but did you know there is fire leaping out of the upstairs windows?” This is more “I’m new here, and everybody needs to look at me!” That is idiotic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Right.......your opinion is you don't care about the opinion of the owner of the site(read "whatever")..........you didn't have to tell SDS off but you went out of your way to. That's ingratitude. I quoted Domdab99 because you were praising him for his "seriousness" as a Bills fan..................when he clearly stated he's just here to troll people...........which is the exact opposite of that. So.......you are wrong. He also tells me "You think I give a ***** who's site this is?" That's also ingratitude. You two requested his permission to be here............have some respect for your position as guests on this free, but privately owned forum. I don’t know if our community and our posters are overrated or not. I do know I reviewed the latest postings of Domdab99 and it’s clear he certainly wasn’t making this a better place (along with his six warning points). Not to get sidetracked here, but I have always been willing to listen to people suggestions. Obviously I can’t implement everyone’s suggestions because people have conflicting opinions, but I don’t understand the purpose of posters just taking a potshot at the community in a thread without offering a constructive solution. ?♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 "overrated?" No. Except for the last drive by the Jets, the Bills D were put behind the 8 ball by the special teams so often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, tuckan said: Statistically superior but with three major flaws: 1. Not dependable in the clutch. 2. Do not create turnovers. 3. Terrible in the red zone. Bonus number 4, lose gap integrity in run defense far too often at the most inopportune time. Had no faith that they could close the game out today. They were completely blown off the ball on 4th and goal. Had an opportunity to stuff that play for no gain in my opinion. Tremaine Edmunds late to the party..... 1 Have been all 3 of those things at times, especially last year where we were great in the red zone, had lots of turnovers and made some big stops in teh clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Dead on about Tremaine, I dont know why they thought he was a middle to begin with. I almost thought that jobber ILB for the Jets who quicksand'ed on the McKenzie TD wa as emulating Edmunds. He just came diagnose the play in the hole. Some of it is leverage and some of it is just inability to keep track of the ball. The Bill's have done well when they could slide him over a shade and have milano stack a tackle. Tremaine should be weak and be able to use length and speed to disrupt passing lanes To this point I gotta' agree. There's this whole "he's going to make a huge jump next year" narrative..........and we can *hope* for that.........but typically MLB's usually show instinctive play early on. I've detailed the fact before that good ones.....let alone GREAT ones.........usually hit the ground running as a rookie. It's not "oh he struggled as a rookie but then the light came on".........it's usually just subtle improvements. Edmunds has struggled and they've worked around it for the most part. But on 4th down at the end of the game today........when you needed him to get off that block and shoot that gap and take the back down short of the goal line......he was a step late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, tuckan said: That is idiotic..... Are you calling me an idiot? That role is already filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Getting started at midfield 4 times didn't help. Not to mention getting started at the 8 yd line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Right.......your opinion is you don't care about the opinion of the owner of the site(read "whatever")..........you didn't have to tell SDS off but you went out of your way to. That's ingratitude. I quoted Domdab99 because you were praising him for his "seriousness" as a Bills fan..................when he clearly stated he's just here to troll people...........which is the exact opposite of that. So.......you are wrong. He also tells me "You think I give a ***** who's site this is?" That's also ingratitude. You two requested his permission to be here............have some respect for your position as guests on this free, but privately owned forum. Get lost dude, I do not have a flying F*** of a clue who Domadab99 and I have backed the owner of this board many times; but I too have an opinion! Grow up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe not always, but usually. What kind of person walks into a new room and screams to get attention? No real knowledge was shared here. It wasn’t like “excuse me, but did you know there is fire leaping out of the upstairs windows?” This is more “I’m new here, and everybody needs to look at me!” The OP made points..........the defense certainly came up small against a team that would have had the worst record(#1 overall draft pick positioning) in the NFL had they not beaten the Bills today. You are just trying to shout him down for whatever reason. He's dead-on right about Edmunds not being able to make certain plays that you need a good MLB to make. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The OP made points..........the defense certainly came up small against a team that would have had the worst record(#1 overall draft pick positioning) in the NFL had they not beaten the Bills today. You are just trying to shout him down for whatever reason. He's dead-on right about Edmunds not being able to make certain plays that you need a good MLB to make. He did make some points. Points that seem to be covered already in various ways in various places. Edmunds needs to fill his gap. We get it. I’m not trying to shout anyone down, despite what you may have to say. The kid is 20, so we will have to wait to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, vorpma said: Get lost dude, I do not have a flying F*** of a clue who Domadab99 and I have backed the owner of this board many times; but I too have an opinion! Grow up!! So what was the point of telling SDS off? I like the mis-spelling touch though........after that I TOTALLY get that you guys weren't buds because you can't spell his name..........you were just liking it because you perceived it as a "shout down" of the OP? That's a mature approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: So what was the point of telling SDS off? I like the mis-spelling touch though........after that I TOTALLY get that you guys weren't buds because you can't spell his name..........you were just liking it because you perceived it as a "shout down" of the OP? That's a mature approach. Whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: So what was the point of telling SDS off? I like the mis-spelling touch though........after that I TOTALLY get that you guys weren't buds because you can't spell his name..........you were just liking it because you perceived it as a "shout down" of the OP? That's a mature approach. Bado....why are you judging mature from immature posts? Have you read some of your posts? Ahem....this is absolutely the best on line bills community and there is not one close.....ppl should be thankful it is here especially after the bills decided to shut down their official board and ppl had to migrate over here I myself have been guilty of jumping on posts of ppl I dont agree with and admit it (and others should as well Bado this means you) Take the halo off your friggen head.....it does not suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Augie said: He did make some points. Points that seem to be covered already in various ways in various places. Edmunds needs to fill his gap. We get it. I’m not trying to shout anyone down, despite what you may have to say. The kid is 20, so we will have to wait to see. And how many times do we gotta' hear "the kid is 20" as if there is some linear connection to youth and becoming exponentially more instinctive the next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The board after a loss is a painful place. Let us all grieve together, and come back next week. 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: And how many times do we gotta' hear "the kid is 20" as if there is some linear connection to youth and becoming exponentially more instinctive the next season. Time will tell. Have a nice life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: The board after a loss is a painful place. Let us all grieve together, and come back next week. A few could opt out.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Agent 91 said: Dead on about Tremaine, I dont know why they thought he was a middle to begin with. I almost thought that jobber ILB for the Jets who quicksand'ed on the McKenzie TD wa as emulating Edmunds. He just came diagnose the play in the hole. Some of it is leverage and some of it is just inability to keep track of the ball. The Bill's have done well when they could slide him over a shade and have milano stack a tackle. Tremaine should be weak and be able to use length and speed to disrupt passing lanes I have a couple of thoughts on this I believe that Edmunds will get better as he matures.....he has all the tools especially for McD's defense but I also think that we should go into next offseason looking at all options.....if they come up with a player that is better at MLB it would not be the end of the world if they slid Edmunds over because he is probably a pro bowler at that position...... I wonder if they have discussed it behind the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Bado....why are you judging mature from immature posts? Have you read some of your posts? Ahem....this is absolutely the best on line bills community and there is not one close.....ppl should be thankful it is here especially after the bills decided to shut down their official board and ppl had to migrate over here I myself have been guilty of jumping on posts of ppl I dont agree with and admit it (and others should as well Bado this means you) Take the halo off your friggen head.....it does not suit you. John, please read the posts prior before you jump in(re:judging maturity). It's an annoying habit of yours jumping into discussions late and pretending you understand the context of the discussion. And don't straw man me with the "halo" stuff.........you'll never find a post of me criticizing the site in the 20 years I've been here.........that just is what it is so don't pretend that I am in any way inconsistent about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: John, please read the posts prior before you jump in(re:judging maturity). It's an annoying habit of yours jumping into discussions late and pretending you understand the context of the discussion. And don't straw man me with the "halo" stuff.........you'll never find a post of me criticizing the site in the 20 years I've been here.........that just is what it is so don't pretend that I am in any way inconsistent about that. I see So just because you have not insulted SDS or the site the fact that you insult posters for their opinions on this board should be overlooked. What is fair is fair.......the holier then now thing does not suit you. I agree that nobody should be saying a damn thing about a free and great board like this one.....but you calling someone else immature is......:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: I see So just because you have not insulted SDS or the site the fact that you insult posters for their opinions on this board should be overlooked. What is fair is fair.......the holier then now thing does not suit you. I agree that nobody should be saying a damn thing about a free and great board like this one.....but you calling someone else immature is......:( If you want to take this time to point out that I am snarky with other posters..........as are you........then mmmmmmokay. Don't get the point though..........you are off the topic of the discussion you are referencing........it was about gratitude for the use of the site to express our various opinions........snarky or otherwise. If you had the decency to read the beginning of the thread you'd see that the recently vaporized Domdab99 called out the site and refused constructive feedback and then went off the deep end. By contrast.........I've given you constructive feedback.........READ BEFORE YOU RESPOND. CONTEXT John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Just to chime in, big kudos to @SDS and the others that make this board possible. Light years better than any forum I’ve been on and the reason it’s the only one I’ve stuck around at. I’m on here way too much lol It’s not an easy job, and I’m sure BBMB shutdown didn’t make it any easier, so thanks for keeping it going for us schmucks to spend too much time on Edited December 10, 2018 by Alphadawg7 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Augie said: Time will tell. Have a nice life. 1) Words to live by.........including the OP's take! 2) And Augie.......again, so kind of you.........live your BEST life in Hotlanta. Go Falcons! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I have a couple of thoughts on this I believe that Edmunds will get better as he matures.....he has all the tools especially for McD's defense but I also think that we should go into next offseason looking at all options.....if they come up with a player that is better at MLB it would not be the end of the world if they slid Edmunds over because he is probably a pro bowler at that position...... I wonder if they have discussed it behind the scenes Edmunds belongs. I just think he is miscast as a traditional MLB his talents are being wasted right now. Will he get better? Perhaps. But I would DEFINITELY look for an alternative. Luckily Alexander is 35 and said MAYBE 1 more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Luka said: Average drive position for the Jets was the 48 yard line. That's a tall order for any defense. Last week they lost the Phins game but this week I don't think they were terrible. Terrible special teams and a sputtering offense were more to blame. They were definitely manhandled by the Jets OL. Darnold was never under duress (except for that one play which he miraculously completed for a TD)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Yet another cheesy noob thread..? They aren’t overrated because no one here says they are. Their Rating is done by the League, based solely on yards against rush & pass. But you’d have to actually follow the NFL to know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yet another cheesy noob thread..? They aren’t overrated because no one here says they are. Their Rating is done by the League, based solely on yards against rush & pass. But you’d have to actually follow the NFL to know this. Stats on a laptop mean about one third of an honest evaluation rhe Jets gutted the Bills D with ease in the 4th quarter twice when it really counted Edited December 10, 2018 by row_33 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Everything went down hill after Chris Kelsey retired 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I think they need a penetrating three technique. A Geno Atkins-Aaron Donald type. I know those guys don't grow on trees, but that's what the defense is missing. I love Kyle, but he isn't that anymore. He's a nice rotational player who looks gassed at times. Harrison Phillips or Jordan Phillips....neither fits the bill. People have mentioned Sheldon Richardson in free agency and that's the kind of player this defense needs. Maybe that's Quinnen Williams or Ed Oliver. They also need more pass rush and improvement from Tremaine. I think there is a chance we go after Richardson. Our draft board is going to be, imo: Bosa Q. Williams, Ed Oliver, J. Simmons, Brown Josh Allen That's where the value is going to be in the draft. Forget about top ten wide receivers, guards and right tackles. Those will all be reaches we will regret. A defensive front seven player is probably our first pick. I think offensive lineman come in free agency. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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