NickelCity Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, mattynh said: 8 for 19 passing with 13 runs. You are happy with that? I mean they won the game so I get "who cares about stats when you win". But for me, I just dont see that as something that will be successful in the long term if it continues. The box score from this game in particular really hid how well Josh did. Those back to back 3rd down completions, toss in the hail mary attempt and drop(s)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, sleeby said: He dove head first today? Are you certain about that? Twice in the 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: The box score from this game in particular really hid how well Josh did. Those back to back 3rd down completions, toss in the hail mary attempt and drop(s)... I think he did very well if you consider it all about progression. Objectively, I don't think it was a great day, but a solid one that looked better than the box score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Never said HOF or any level of accolades for that matter. I just do not understand why more people are not impressed by Allen out athleting Jacksonvilles defense. He doesn't have a go to guy on 3rd down. He doesnt have a running game to fall back on. If this was a terrible defense than I understand. I do not recall an easy matchup yet for Allen. The Jags have lost 7 games in a row. The Packers defense is not that good. He is struggling to throw for any volume. If he got sacked on the pass to Foster which he almost did he would have been under 100 yards again. His athleticism shows no doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Oh I got your point. I just found it funny that you demonstrated it by bringing up a guy whose career is over because he didn't throw for enough yards. You got me. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, NickelCity said: The box score from this game in particular really hid how well Josh did. Those back to back 3rd down completions, toss in the hail mary attempt and drop(s)... He hangs guys out to dry then when they get smashed and dont catch we call it a drop, ball placement is a thing, an important thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 It’s weird that we didn’t talk about how bad the running game or Zay Jones was with Barkley. Just something to think about . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Matt Ryan is averaging over 300 a game how is that working out for the falcons with receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Look beyond the stats. Allen had a very good game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 He did. Thompson and Croom need to catch and our OL needs to learn how to stop getting so many damn holding penalties that negate nice passes by Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Great team win and Allen made some huge throws and ran for over 100yards, end of the day i do not want my franchise QB focused on running the football. For Allen to become a great franchise QB he needs to throw the ball and more plays to need to be called to throw the ball and not run. This is a passing league, and ground and pound is for losers the great teams pass for 300yards on weekly basis and we struggle to make it to 200 yards. Yes the receivers suck but we need to stay committed to becoming a pass first team. Even finishing this season focused on passing the ball and establishing ourselves as a pass first team will help signing potential free agent WR'S. You're going to trigger a lot of people with this post, but you do have a point. He won't make it through the rest of the year with that style of play. He needs to learn to slide or he's going to wind up on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Agent 91 said: Im ok with the no 300 yd thing. But I also don't want to see him talking the hits I find it funny that Allen comes back and Zay disappears again. I need to understand the gameplan. McKenzie looks intriguing I will admit The Jags Defense is not the same as the Jets...The Jags front 7 is a blue-chip group. Our OL had no chance against them. Allen had very little time to make those throws...and Daboll did not really help. He left his rookie QB exposed to all those hits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The same few posters who ride Allen anytime he plays bad with their “bust” predictions have once again been given a Monday off. See you guys midweek.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 So long as Allen does not take big hits, run as much as you like. When he makes big runs the confidence carries over into the passing game. Allen seems to settle down after he takes a hit, he seems to embellish it and talk ***** to defenders after the fact. I say let him do it. I expect him to be more of a passer next year but as a rookie QB, I'm fine with it and feel it should be a big part of our game plan. If Allen repeats this production going forward we finish between 8-8 and 9-7. Possibly a wildcard birth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Running that much with the franchise QB is just plain dumb. McD should know better. Absolutely crazy. Nice thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: No hater, i just want him to pass more Idk why people are nitpicking here. Every time he took off I got nervous and I dont think he slid once. Everyone saying, yeah but hes good and needed to, he almost blew his back out on a scramble from the 3 while we were winning. Im glad he can but gd stop taking so many hits so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Commonsense said: The same few posters who ride Allen anytime he plays bad with their “bust” predictions have once again been given a Monday off. See you guys midweek.? Its crazy. Haven’t heard a peep from rober or fadingpain after they hot taked us for two months on Allen’s suckitude. 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Running that much with the franchise QB is just plain dumb. McD should know better. Absolutely crazy. Nice thread Coming from the Allen is a bust guy. Stick to the script. Lets forget all about Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, and all the other qb’s that run when it’s called for ? I forgot Trubisky, Watson, Prescott, and Mariota. They should all quit the league too Edited November 26, 2018 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Running that much with the franchise QB is just plain dumb. McD should know better. Absolutely crazy. Nice thread It feels like Allen is a foot taller than everyone who tries to tackle him. Allen seems to be extremely durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhalen26 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Less running. One play his head took a nice bounce of the turf when he went down, another his throwing arm that was injured took a big hit. It was the head bounce that concerned me. He’s gotta stay healthy and learn to thrown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 13 hours ago, mattynh said: I had the same thought. The first 3rd down they had where he ran for the first down, he had a guy right after the snap to the right that would have been an easy conversion but he was not looking there. Bottom line is right now he is a one read guy, that has to change for him to make it. It's great that he is using his legs though which can give him some confidence and keep the offense moving at times. In the long run though your franchise QB has to be able to throw it more consistently that he does right now. So many bootlegs that generate a lot of time to pass and he often just hoofs it for 3-4 yards. Go back and watch it. He did look before he took off and he picked up more yards than the receiver would have. The TD to Foster was his second read on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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