Mr. WEO Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Bolded 1. 100% your made up speculation 2. Did they really? If Pegulas did "learn their lesson" Why did they preach continuity and then proceed to fire Whaley right after the draft? Pegulas already knew Doug's fate at that time, if they did not we should be worried all the more. So knowing they are going to S&^t can Doug after the draft how much input from Doug do you really think they took in as value added on the HC hire? You could be right though but it doesn't add up in my mind. As far as Hue and Rex go. Must of us knew Rex was a clown show fraud before coming here. A very large majority of fans and posters supported Hue's being our next HC. Hue's first shot as a HC was also a clown show no doubt, but was never seen before like Rex with the NYJ. Also, the Bills and Browns rosters in 2014-2016 were bipolar opposites talent wise. We still don't 100% know what went down between McD, Pegula and Whaley. If I had to imagine McD's and Whaley's vision were 100 opposite on how to build the team. All we do know for Whaley's 3rd coaching staff we went all D happy in an offensive league. I have a feeling this is where Doug finally stepped up to ownership and McD before the draft and said something? It didn't match McD's plan and Pegula had such a woody for him they parted ways. Knowing how much Whaley wanted Watson it's clear as day he had zero control of the 2016 draft and his tenure was over. The bolded part is hilariously false. The consensus here was that, after Rex, Whaley was FINALLY going to get to pick "his" HC. There is simply no chance that Terry and Kim Pegula would have known much, or anything at all, about McD to hire him. Again, they relied on Whaley for the hire. Any other spin makes zero sense. Whaley was a dead man walking as soon as that season was over, wither way. He was such a weak character, to suggest that he would have "finally stepped up and said something" is not believable. As for Whaley's salary, why would McMahon have to pay him more than that? He just picked him out of the NFL's dumpster to be an executive in a league that will hemorrhage cash from day one. 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Hue wanted to keep Schwartz here. He had already spoken to him. Schwartz hadn't made up his mind but ultimately he was under contract to the Bills and they turned down requests to interview him from the Giants and the Redskins for their DC jobs before they hired Rex. If Hue had come here he'd have been a glorified OC acting as HC and I think he'd have got the 2015 into the playoffs.... largely on the back of the already excellent defense. But as that defense aged, and it was starting to the performance would have fallen off and Hue's lack of clear direction as a leader would have sunk him ultimately. Hue can't be a glorified OC...or even an inglorious one. Without a franchise QB, he's nothing in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I texted him "Congrats" yesterday, he responded saying he was very excited for the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They hired a company who's logo is a female fast pitch softball pitcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 7:08 AM, BigDingus said: Movin' on up! Going to the XFL is probably an upgrade over being the Bills GM at this point hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Day 10 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Probably a real good idea to start out in the largest cities that have NFL teams the furthest possible distance from one another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: i'll let you summarize it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: i'll let you summarize it for me Dallas, St Louis, Houston, LA, DC, Tampa, Seattle, New York 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Dallas, St Louis, Houston, LA, DC, Tampa, Seattle, New York ...where's Letchworth?....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Dallas, St Louis, Houston, LA, DC, Tampa, Seattle, New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KD in CA Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Which team will have EJ at QB? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeziehmer Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 11/8/2018 at 1:15 PM, LeGOATski said: The XFL is done before it began. The AAF starts in 2019 (a year earlier) and has a working relationship with the NFL. It's going to be the preeminent minor league to the NFL, so buy your season tickets if there's an AAF team in your city. I’m rooting for the Atlanta Legends. Could be the farm system for professional Coaches as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Which team will have EJ at QB? I hope DC to spite the Redskins for not signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Joeziehmer said: I’m rooting for the Atlanta Legends. Could be the farm system for professional Coaches as well. That's interesting, too. Right now it seems like the coaches are mostly experienced guys, but it could be a good transitional step for college coaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill from NYC Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 9:09 PM, KD in CA said: Which team will have EJ at QB? The worst one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) So where are these teams playing, like, what stadiums? Edited December 17, 2018 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 what "high quality" coaches are they going to get? How is the pay going to be? Sounds like a dead end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, May Day 10 said: what "high quality" coaches are they going to get? How is the pay going to be? Sounds like a dead end. I wonder what the over/under on seasons this league plays? 1or2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 9:42 AM, May Day 10 said: Dallas, St Louis, Houston, LA, DC, Tampa, Seattle, New York I'm shocked that the Bay Area did not get one. When the XFL was first around, the San Francisco Demons had a strong following and many fans went to those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm shocked that the Bay Area did not get one. When the XFL was first around, the San Francisco Demons had a strong following and many fans went to those games. They’ll need one now to replace the Oakland/L.A./Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders. Come to think of it, the replacement team could probably play the Raiders straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: what "high quality" coaches are they going to get? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: They’ll need one now to replace the Oakland/L.A./Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders. Come to think of it, the replacement team could probably play the Raiders straight up. Exactly! This was a perfect scenario for the XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 11/8/2018 at 1:17 PM, LeGOATski said: Whaley is a great pro-personnel evaluator. Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. Pro scouting and college scouting are not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. Indeed, as does his picking Terrell Troup one pick ahead of Gronkowski! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, The Senator said: Indeed, as does his picking Terrell Troup one pick ahead of Gronkowski! ? Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, harv shitz said: Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver. You’re right - he might not be the worst GM in Bills history. That distinction has to go to either Buddy Nix or Stew Barber. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, The Senator said: You’re right - he might not be the worst GM in Bills history. That distinction has to go to either Buddy Nix or Stew Barber. . I kinda lump he and Buddy in together, as they were two peas in a pod. I barely remember Barber, was still pretty young during his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I think the XFL 2020 could work if they make it more of an unofficial development league looking to fill the niche market of winter/spring football. I think they have the right idea in giving themselves much more time to build the infrastructure of the league and get a coherent plan to make the league have a sensible business model. If they can actually get a decent TV deal they might stand a chance to tap sports landscape. I think they learned their lessons from the first time around hopefully. Now granted they could have learned their lessons and still fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, harv shitz said: I kinda lump he and Buddy in together, as they were two peas in a pod. I barely remember Barber, was still pretty young during his tenure. Barber was the guy that drafted Tom Cousineau #1 overall (using the #1 pick they obtained from the 49ers for O.J. Simpson) then failed to pick him up at the airport, failed to take him to his hotel, failed to take him to dinner, failed at everything. Cousineau was upset, his agent was infuriated. Cousineau went to the CFL. (The silver lining is, that when Cousineau returned to the NFL after his CFL contract was up, the Bills promptly traded his rights to Cleveland for a first round pick, which we used to draft Jim Kelly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I remember the Cousineau pick, and him never signing, but never knew about the failures that went with it. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, harv shitz said: I remember the Cousineau pick, and him never signing, but never knew about the failures that went with it. Interesting. Quite a difference from the treatment Terrell Owens got - private jet, dinner at Tempo, finest hotel, so much wining and dining that Owens decided to stay another day and called his wife to come and look at available homes for sale. The Bills sent a private jet to bring her here! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Wow. No wonder he signed! I wish he had worked out better than he did. But, no quarterback to get him the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) I don't get some of the Whaley hate. He was able to find some decent draft picks, was good at scraping the barrel for contributors and was a witch in trades. Cap management was poor. I think the XFL is making the same mistakes all upstart pro football teams make. Putting teams in solid NFL cities. Could think of some solid metros that don't have NFL football that would be great fits Some are cities burned by the NFL that have stadiums Some are growing cities overlooked by the NFL, many with stadiums And plenty of 1-3 million plus metros with no pro sports teams. I'd also target capitals to get past red tape. 2 conferences 4-6 teams each - top 2-3 records per conference get in Potential East Teams Toronto - beat the NFL into the expansion into Canada (media center for the league) Orlando - 2.4 million metro, holding pro sports teams Columbus - fastest growing metro in the midwest, supporting MLS, 2 million metro (capital) Raleigh/ Durham - fast growing 1-2 million plus metro, no pro sports (capital) Richmond - million plus metro, no pro sports (capital) Providence or Hartford - 1 million metro, no pro sports - close to major population centers (Capitals), fills the NE gap Louisville - million metro, no pro sports, fills the south/midwest gap Potential West Teams: Oakland - Football clout, has stadium, lost team, bay area presence San Diego - Football Clout, has stadium, lost team, Southern CA presence Saint Louis - Football clout, has stadium, lost team, 3 million metro San Antonio - has stadium, supports pro team, overlooked by NFL, 2.4 million metro Oklahoma City - fast growing, holding NBA team, 1.3 millon and growing Salt Lake City - supports NBA, 1.3 million metro, the 'Broncos' of the XFL Portland - supports NBA, West hub not in CA, metro 2.3 million If I've learned anything, don't put pro football teams in markets with embedded NFL teams Edited December 18, 2018 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 hours ago, harv shitz said: Yes, his 16th overall pick of E.J. Manuel backs up that theory. You're a ***** genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, harv shitz said: Great point. At least he never traded a #1 and then used two #1's on a very over rated receiver. And a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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