Sean McDermott is Out of Answers

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Goff was considered a bust and wasted pick ,by many, 2 years ago. The Rams were a complete dumpster fire.

A lot can happen with a QB on his rookie contract and cap space .

No no no. Everyone expected the Rams to be the surprise team last year. They went 11-5 and Goff played well. It is not the same as here or even close. 

 

The year before they struggled and that was more expected with Goff starting the second half of the yea. Most did not call him a bust and expected him to be solid going into 2017.

 

In 2016 they were 4-12 and fired the coach mid year. McVay came in and did not purge the roster. He added key pieces and kept many of the prior regime players. It is ego driven mistakes like turning over an entire roster that set teams back. 

Edited October 30, 2018 by ngbills

[mrags]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

What do you suggest they do right at this current moment?

Fire this loser coach and get someone else in here to get a shot and see what they can do. But they won’t do that. We’ll be stuck with them for another year and a half and back in this same spot then. 

38 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

They nstink right now.  No one is denying that.  No one is denying that they need to make sure they use their cap space and draft picks wisely or they will be in jeopardy of losing their jobs.

 

But here you are, trying to rewrite history to have your little hissy fit.  And it's tiring. 

Pretty solid ideas.

What’s tiring is watching this team and it’s idiotic fans make excuses and fail for those excuses 

[Buffalo Boy]

27 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

Yeah, and they fired his defensive-minded head coach and replaced him with an innovative offensive coordinator.

The Rams Offense is basically a play action passing offense predicated on Gurley running well. It is not very innovative.

And, the NFC west is a bigger dumpster fire than the AFC east. They have 6 gimmee games right off the bat.

 

Edited October 30, 2018 by Buffalo Boy

[Perry Turtle]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said:

The Rams Offense is basically a play action passing offense predicated on Gurley running well. It is not very innovative.

 

Right,  basically the same scheme Fisher was running.?

[Buffalo Boy]

10 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Most did not call him a bust and expected him to be solid going into 201

You clearly weren’t reading the threads on here two years ago.

I , and a few others, were soundly mocked for suggesting he needed some time before one could call him a bust.

Just now, Perry Turtle said:

Right,  basically the same scheme Fisher was running.?

It’s not the Chiefs and it isn’t innovative.

[Fadingpain]

4 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I listened to the post-game show last night, and Sean McDermott is out of answers folks. When his team gets kicked in the teeth, he pulls out his Dick Jauron cue cards repeats the most bland answers and cliches. 

 

First question out of the gate: "your offense has 2 Touchdowns in the last 5 games, explain it" and McDermott leads with "the defense came out and played well at times"... "go back and find answers". 

 

On McCoy's ineffectiveness as a runner - "making sure we are giving LeSean opportunities, and I have to go back and look at the tape" - HEY SEAN, MAYBE STOP ALLOWING SWEEPS AND PITCHES TO THE EDGES

 

"Learn from our mistakes"

 

"We are developing a football team"

 

"Learn from the tape"

 

From your time in the NFL could you recall any offense you've been a part of that has struggled like this? .... "establish the line of scrimmage early, thought we did some of that early, they made adjustments, and we weren't able to sustain it really the rest of the game" 

 

Derek Anderson evaluation: "thought he made some good throws, and he had some throws he'd like back"

 

What is holding Derek Anderson's back: "being able to establish the run game ... stay in 3rd and manageable"

 

Why is first down such a problem? "Can't get it going"

 

 

 

 

And so I ask Bills fans, do McDermott's answers bother you? Because they aggravate me. You have Bills fans sitting out there all night to watch a 47 yard and 51 yard FG and they get: we have to study tape harder. They get we are building a culture as we "move this thing forward".  

 

I think McDermott really thinks that you can line up in 2018 with an extra Tight End and Fullback, and run over teams across a 16-game schedule. That you can line McCoy up and just use the run game to control the line of scrimmage and that still works in the NFL. That you can watch tape, correct mistakes, and learn to be good offensively. That stay in 3rd and manageable is an accomplishment. 

 

Halfway through the season, 11-13 as a Coach and I think McDermott is out of answers. If he was gifted Alvin Kamara today he wouldn't know how to use him. He'd slam him into the line 8 times and talk about physicality. 

 

It's very frustrating listening to him speak about the team and you definitely are not alone in this.

 

A Buffalo Bills message board is probably the only place on earth where you'll find a lot of people arguing with you about this.

 

For whatever reason, this forum attracts the kool aid types.

 

 

[Heitz]

1 hour ago, kota said:

LOL at people who get mad a press conferences.  

 

But he didn't say what *I* wanted him to say, so I have to complain about it, or no-one will know that he didn't do what I thought that he should have done! ?

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

It's very frustrating listening to him speak about the team and you definitely are not alone in this.

 

A Buffalo Bills message board is probably the only place on earth where you'll find a lot of people arguing with you about this.

 

For whatever reason, this forum attracts the kool aid types.

 

 

LOL

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

 

[BananaB]

His D played great last night. We have no talent on offense and Beane is too worried about stock piling picks to do anything about it.

[PeterDude]

McDermott is an idiot coach, bottom line.  Bills fans have to keep suffering through franchise incompitence. Looks like no end in sight either.

[PauleeeWalnuts]

5 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I listened to the post-game show last night, and Sean McDermott is out of answers folks. When his team gets kicked in the teeth, he pulls out his Dick Jauron cue cards repeats the most bland answers and cliches. 

 

First question out of the gate: "your offense has 2 Touchdowns in the last 5 games, explain it" and McDermott leads with "the defense came out and played well at times"... "go back and find answers". 

 

On McCoy's ineffectiveness as a runner - "making sure we are giving LeSean opportunities, and I have to go back and look at the tape" - HEY SEAN, MAYBE STOP ALLOWING SWEEPS AND PITCHES TO THE EDGES

 

"Learn from our mistakes"

 

"We are developing a football team"

 

"Learn from the tape"

 

From your time in the NFL could you recall any offense you've been a part of that has struggled like this? .... "establish the line of scrimmage early, thought we did some of that early, they made adjustments, and we weren't able to sustain it really the rest of the game" 

 

Derek Anderson evaluation: "thought he made some good throws, and he had some throws he'd like back"

 

What is holding Derek Anderson's back: "being able to establish the run game ... stay in 3rd and manageable"

 

Why is first down such a problem? "Can't get it going"

 

 

 

 

And so I ask Bills fans, do McDermott's answers bother you? Because they aggravate me. You have Bills fans sitting out there all night to watch a 47 yard and 51 yard FG and they get: we have to study tape harder. They get we are building a culture as we "move this thing forward".   

 

I think McDermott really thinks that you can line up in 2018 with an extra Tight End and Fullback, and run over teams across a 16-game schedule. That you can line McCoy up and just use the run game to control the line of scrimmage and that still works in the NFL. That you can watch tape, correct mistakes, and learn to be good offensively. That stay in 3rd and manageable is an accomplishment. 

 

Halfway through the season, 11-13 as a Coach and I think McDermott is out of answers. If he was gifted Alvin Kamara today he wouldn't know how to use him. He'd slam him into the line 8 times and talk about physicality. 

 

McDermott bothers me....not just his generic, clueless answers

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, PaulieYayo said:

McDermott bothers me....not just his generic, clueless answers

Me too. 

 

Nothing about him instills hope for real winning. 

[oldmanfan]

6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Me too. 

 

Nothing about him instills hope for real winning. 

Do you honestly think he talks the same way with his team as he does at press conferences?

[Elite Poster]

5 hours ago, Skins Malone said:

I kind of feel like that's how he always answers.  I mean what can he really say?  The QB situation is beyond bad at this point in time...and the staff deserves blame for that.  I know things are bad but McDermott and Bean McDermott deserve more time.

 

You just said the staff deserves blame and then drop the lame ass: let them botch more things since they "deserve" it. Exactly why do they "deserve" more time? 

 

Side note. When I watch this guy speak, it seems his irritation level is based upon how they defense plays. He can get the doors blown off of him in a game, but if defense shows up, it's not a big deal to him. 

Edited October 30, 2018 by Elite Poster

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Do you honestly think he talks the same way with his team as he does at press conferences?

I think he truly believes that punting, field position, 3rd and manageable, running in snowy Buffalo are the keys to winning.

 

And I think that mentality will never allow you to beat the good teams in the league. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think he truly believes that punting, field position, 3rd and manageable, running in snowy Buffalo are the keys to winning.

 

And I think that mentality will never allow you to beat the good teams in the league. 

 

 

[Fadingpain]

1 hour ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

You are a f-ing rock star Dallas! 

 

I laughed so hard at this I cried.

This really needs its own thread.  If you won't make one, I will.

 

I am begging any Bills fan with some computer skills to do one of these for McDermott.

 

The material needed is out there in abundance.

 

Someone, PLEASE, make one of these!

 

 

[paulbills]

I still don't know why everyone is getting so worked up over the season, any reasonable fan could see this season was a wash just 2-3 weeks in, hell probably even week 1 when we were forced to start Allen.

Sean can only say and do so much, sometimes fans are unreasonable in their expectations for a team and I feel it's true in this case.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

No you’re right, he has a secret binder that only him and Beane know about with the advanced, explosive, real NFL plays that he will call Beane gets 100% of the roster converted to his culture guys. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

No you’re right, he has a secret binder that only him and Beane know about with the advanced, explosive, real NFL plays that he will call Beane gets 100% of the roster converted to his culture guys. 

 

So very emo.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 minutes ago, paulbills said:

I still don't know why everyone is getting so worked up over the season, any reasonable fan could see this season was a wash just 2-3 weeks in, hell probably even week 1 when we were forced to start Allen.

Sean can only say and do so much, sometimes fans are unreasonable in their expectations for a team and I feel it's true in this case.

No one is going bezerk.

 

They’re aggrevated by the monotone message of McDermott and legitimately questioning whether Beane and McDermott can conjur an NFL worthy offense.

 

We’ve gone from 18 ppg last year to 10 ppg this year. 

 

Worst offense tracked in over 33 years worth of data.

 

We trust those guys with $80MM dollars in cap space and 10 picks because we scored 3 points in January against Jacksonville? 

Edited October 30, 2018 by Straight Hucklebuck

[oldmanfan]

9 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think he truly believes that punting, field position, 3rd and manageable, running in snowy Buffalo are the keys to winning.

 

And I think that mentality will never allow you to beat the good teams in the league. 

And that is why they drafted Allen.  And why Beane said before they drafted Allen that you have to have a QB to win

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

And that is why they drafted Allen.  And why Beane said before they drafted Allen that you have to have a QB to win

Right. 

 

So so what kind of players are we going to surround Allen with? 

 

Possession guys? Tall Lanky “red zone threats”, speed guys? 

 

We had to have the rifle arm. Are we going to install a vertical offense? McDermott is going to move off the run game so we can throw more downfield? 

[paulbills]

10 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

No one is going bezerk.

 

They’re aggregated by the monotone message of McDermott and legitimately questioning whether Beane and McDermott can conjur an NFL worthy offense.

 

We’ve gone from 18 ppg last year to 10 ppg this year. 

 

Worst offense tracked in over 33 years worth of data.

 

We trust those guys with $80MM dollars in cap space and 10 picks because we scored 3 points in January against Jacksonville? 

Yet absolutely nobody was saying this last year when we were 9-7 headed to the playoffs, and if they did, they blamed Tyrod and not McDermott & Co.

 

You have to realize the lack of talent on the field in multiple positions on the offensive side is a huge hinder on fielding an "NFL worthy" offense. The QB situation is abysmal and we're only now adding some decent talent to WR with Pryor, I used to think this offense was better than everyone said they were but KB and Zay are both severely under performing and Croom has had more of an impact than Clay has this year, which doesn't mean much as they're both not playing that well. Not to mention our O-line is a shell of what it once was then you quickly realize the only bright spot on offense is shady and he's been below average as well.

 

Any reasonable fan can see why we have such a bad offense this year. 

Edited October 30, 2018 by paulbills

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Right. 

 

So so what kind of players are we going to surround Allen with? 

 

Possession guys? Tall Lanky “red zone threats”, speed guys? 

 

We had to have the rifle arm. Are we going to install a vertical offense? McDermott is going to move off the run game so we can throw more downfield? 

Well, since neither you nor I are Nostradamus I don't think we can answer those questions.  They just brought Pryor in.  They tried Foster for speed, and now Phillips.  In the Houston and Tennessee games Allen was going downfield more.  If they don't give him weapons you'll have a point then.

 

Plus, after watching the Bills play in Buffalo for 58 years now, I can tell you without question that you have to be able to run the ball in Buffalo in December.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, paulbills said:

Yet absolutely nobody was saying this last year when we were 9-7 headed to the playoffs, and if they did, they blamed Tyrod and not McDermott & Co.

 

You have to realize the lack of talent on the field in multiple positions on the offensive side is a huger hinder on fielding an "NFL worthy" offense. The QB situation is abysmal and we're only now adding some decent talent to WR with Pryor, I used to think this offense was better than everyone said they were but KB and Zay are both severely under performing and Croom has had more of an impact than Clay has this year, which doesn't mean much as they're both not playing that well. Not to mention our O-line is a shell of what it once was then you quickly realize the only bright spot on offense is shady and he's been below average as well.

 

Any reasonable fan can see why we have such a bad offense this year. 

I agree that any reasonable fan can see why the suck offensively, horrible players and McDermott’s conservative approach, but  the problem is Beane and McDermott are paid to know more than the fans. 

 

10 ppg for a draft pick was “the process” they were master minding this whole time? 

[QCity]

6 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

What would you like him to say? What would soothe you?

 

[Roundybout]

I can't wait until this works out and I get to rub it in half this board's face. It's going to be amazing. I'm already halfway there with Zay improving. 

[MDH]

4 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Or you rip the band aid off quickly and get it over with.

 

A 4 year rebuild is far from removing the band aid quickly. It's like slowly tearing it off so you feel each and every hair being ripped out.

[peterpan]

6 hours ago, Zaso Art Designs said:

Another thing that he keeps saying is that we have a young football team. But the team isn't that young. 

The MNF crew had a stat that 40% of our players are rookies or 2nd year guys, most in the league. 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, MDH said:

 

A 4 year rebuild is far from removing the band aid quickly. It's like slowly tearing it off so you feel each and every hair being ripped out.

The bandage was the cap space.  Again like it or not they felt they had guys with big salaries and cap numbers that weren't performing.  So they elected to get rid of that quickly do they would have space and picks to get the guys they think will win.

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

19 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Well, since neither you nor I are Nostradamus I don't think we can answer those questions.  They just brought Pryor in.  They tried Foster for speed, and now Phillips.  In the Houston and Tennessee games Allen was going downfield more.  If they don't give him weapons you'll have a point then.

 

Plus, after watching the Bills play in Buffalo for 58 years now, I can tell you without question that you have to be able to run the ball in Buffalo in December.

Not in 2018 you don’t. The Patriots play in the crap and throw it all over, same with the Steelers, same with the Packers. 

 

Outside of the pure pure blizzard game this is no longer true. QBs are too good, the rules are too slanted. 

[peterpan]

1 hour ago, PeterDude said:

McDermott is an idiot coach, bottom line.  Bills fans have to keep suffering through franchise incompitence. Looks like no end in sight either.

I actually really like McD. And Daboll.  Our schemes are good.  Whomever drafted Allen and put our O together tho is terrible.  If that's Bean he needs to go.  If it's McD he needs to stay out of the front office and keep to coaching.  

  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

13 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

I can't wait until this works out and I get to rub it in half this board's face. It's going to be amazing. I'm already halfway there with Zay improving. 

I can’t wait either. I’m sure you’ll be here saying you were wrong when McD gets canned too. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I can’t wait either. I’m sure you’ll be here saying you were wrong when McD gets canned too. 

 

After his due time, then yes. I'll admit it. 

[Realist]

You guys do realize this season is nothing more than an extended preseason, don't you? I watch these games just to see how each player is doing and who might be on the team next year. I don't listen to pressers or any post game crap.

[oldmanfan]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Not in 2018 you don’t. The Patriots play in the crap and throw it all over, same with the Steelers, same with the Packers. 

 

Outside of the pure pure blizzard game this is no longer true. QBs are too good, the rules are too slanted. 

How long have you watched Buffalo football?

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

After his due time, then yes. I'll admit it. 

Deal man. 

 

I’ll eat the crow.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Deal man. 

 

I’ll eat the crow.

 

Deal. Seriously. I'll do the same.