B-Man Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 20 hours ago, KayAdams said: I4. Anticipating Future Attack Ads: Their main objective now is to keep Bernie’s delegate count plurality as far away from a majority as possible so to justify stealing his nomination at the July convention. So how can they do this? Well we’ve already seen most of The Establishment’s playbook. Ramp up the Red Scare tactics and ignore every other advanced country with MCA that has yet to devolve into a communist dystopia. Conflate the actual definitions of communism, socialism, democratic socialism, social democracy, and even fascism in attempt to confuse low information voters. Avoid Bernie’s extensive Senate voting record as a New Deal capitalist to further this distortion. Equate Venezuelan and Canadian and Australian and Scandinavian governments as the same thing, in much the same way that the US and Singapore and Somalia are equivalent capitalist societies. Ignore Bernie’s “Amendment King” moniker in the Senate to say he won’t get anything done. At all costs, step around Bernie’s central campaign themes of corporate elite political corruption and the concept of absolute wage growth not keeping pace with the cost of living (food, housing, etc.) and health care (70% polled nation-wide now like MCA!) and college education (traditionally the easiest way for achieving upward social mobility) since 1980. Equate Bernie’s lifelong criticisms of American foreign policy with treason. Throw in a few perfunctory remarks about Bernie Bro online zealots posting mean things and making people feel sad. Did I miss anything? Please indulge! How to stop Bernie at this point? I am taking notes. First, I take slight issue with giving credence to perceived winners and losers. I watched Chris Christie take out Marco Rubio in a debate, and I watched Tusli complete destroy Kamala Harris' efforts. On this particular night, Bernie didn't lose any ground, which is good for Bernie. Warren killed Bloomberg, but I'm told there is no pathway for her at this point, so she helps Bernie more than anything. In the end though, as it relates to your #4, it's not difficult to ramp up Red Scare tactics because there is simply too much video of Bernie promoting and loving communism and appreciating bread lines. I understand people change, but that's his history. By the time you have the squad in his corner demanding the left embrace socialism, it's not a scare tactic. It's a legit problem. Lastly, as much as I detest everything about Bloomberg, he did the one thing none of the other candidates had the guts to do: hit him on the 'billionaire with three houses" bit. None of the candidates would do it because most of them have millions and multiple houses as well. But for one brief moment, Bernie was Ivan Drago and Bloomberg was Rocky and just when you thought Ivan was untouchable, Rocky cut him. That whole sequence was a terrible look for Bernie. You can't talk about helping those who can't help themselves while enjoying your summer home. You either believe what you're telling people, or you don't. Anyway, I'm glad you're here to discuss. No matter what people think about Bernie, at least you're not stupid enough to come here to explain 'peace through green jobs' by backing a dude who literally refers to himself as an ecosocialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 LMAO Bloomberg says three women who signed non-disclosure agreements can be released U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg said on Friday that his company had reviewed its records and found three women who had signed non-disclosure agreements related to their complaints about statements he made personally. “If any of them want to be released from their NDA so that they can talk about those allegations, they should contact the company and they’ll be given a release,” Bloomberg said in a statement. “I’ve done a lot of reflecting on this issue over the past few days and I’ve decided that for as long as I’m running the company, we won’t offer confidentiality agreements to resolve claims of sexual harassment or misconduct going forward,” he added. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Joined 7 hours ago and immediately made his/her/x way down to PPP? Sock puppet. Just not sure who with that whacked out post. ...Q-Baby disappears and THIS shows up........hmmmm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: LMAO Bloomberg says three women who signed non-disclosure agreements can be released U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg said on Friday that his company had reviewed its records and found three women who had signed non-disclosure agreements related to their complaints about statements he made personally. “If any of them want to be released from their NDA so that they can talk about those allegations, they should contact the company and they’ll be given a release,” Bloomberg said in a statement. “I’ve done a lot of reflecting on this issue over the past few days and I’ve decided that for as long as I’m running the company, we won’t offer confidentiality agreements to resolve claims of sexual harassment or misconduct going forward,” he added. You know I was thinking about this. When Elizabeth Warren said Mike Bloomberg could let those ladies off the hook for the NDA on national TV and then Uncle Joe kicked in, he can end it now if he wants, I was thinking of what one of his proponents, Judge Judy, would say about it. It is a contract. So you go only with what's within the four corners of the contract. If the contract didn't say they could be released from it if Bloomberg said so on national TV, then even if he did say it was, legally it wouldn't be. I would suspect that getting it from the company would be in the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: At least democratic socialists have the decency of trying to trick you into voting for it before you have your rights, property and labor confiscated by the government. The scary part is how many people it seems to be working on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, reddogblitz said: You know I was thinking about this. When Elizabeth Warren said Mike Bloomberg could let those ladies off the hook for the NDA on national TV and then Uncle Joe kicked in, he can end it now if he wants, I was thinking of what one of his proponents, Judge Judy, would say about it. It is a contract. So you go only with what's within the four corners of the contract. If the contract didn't say they could be released from it if Bloomberg said so on national TV, then even if he did say it was, legally it wouldn't be. I would suspect that getting it from the company would be in the contract. I have no idea what these three signed an NDA for... is this the sex favors women, or others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: At least democratic socialists have the decency of trying to trick you into voting for it before you have your rights, property and labor confiscated by the government. The scary part is how many people it seems to be working on. ....how this perennial wack job is STILL relevant is beyond me...then again, the same Vermont offered up Howard Dean......water supply awry... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, KRC said: Damn you. Now I am hungry for pasta. Yeah... I decided to have spaghetti tonight because of that joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Yeah... I decided to have spaghetti tonight because of that joke. Don’t forget your scissors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He's probably paying top dollar to some marketing team to come up with these. Yikes. (there are a few in this twitter thread) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: LMAO Bloomberg says three women who signed non-disclosure agreements can be released U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg said on Friday that his company had reviewed its records and found three women who had signed non-disclosure agreements related to their complaints about statements he made personally. “If any of them want to be released from their NDA so that they can talk about those allegations, they should contact the company and they’ll be given a release,” Bloomberg said in a statement. “I’ve done a lot of reflecting on this issue over the past few days and I’ve decided that for as long as I’m running the company, we won’t offer confidentiality agreements to resolve claims of sexual harassment or misconduct going forward,” he added. Question to the board, should anyone have any experience with NDAs: If a woman has a NDA with Bloomberg, would she be allowed, per agreement, to say she had one or do they typically have language within them that prohibits even mentioning that it exists? In other words, did Bloomberg cherry pick 3 NDAs that his legal people and political advisers felt would not harm him very much, if exposed (and they knew they had to admit to a few after the Lizzie scalping). And that there may be others which exist, but will never see the light of day, because the women bound by them can't speak up and say "How come I am not released from my NDA?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He's probably paying top dollar to some marketing team to come up with these. Yikes. (there are a few in this twitter thread) WTF is that even supposed to mean? (Other that what appears to be obvious that it claims 45 like steak well done and Bloomberg likes it the way it should be prepared. In which case who give a ####? How does that possibly matter as a qualification to be the President?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taro T said: WTF is that even supposed to mean? (Other that what appears to be obvious that it claims 45 like steak well done and Bloomberg likes it the way it should be prepared. In which case who give a ####? How does that possibly matter as a qualification to be the President?) He's trying to out Trump Trump which is a bad strategy. That's how you get more Trump. Just ask Hillary and Marco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hedge said: Question to the board, should anyone have any experience with NDAs: If a woman has a NDA with Bloomberg, would she be allowed, per agreement, to say she had one or do they typically have language within them that prohibits even mentioning that it exists? In other words, did Bloomberg cherry pick 3 NDAs that his legal people and political advisers felt would not harm him very much, if exposed (and they knew they had to admit to a few after the Lizzie scalping). And that there may be others which exist, but will never see the light of day, because the women bound by them can't speak up and say "How come I am not released from my NDA?". I've seen it both ways although strictly as a guess that the women affiliated with Bloomberg probably are not suppose to mention that they have any agreement whatsoever. A good friend of mine had one with one employer but that was to protect trade secrets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: He's trying to out Trump Trump which is a bad strategy. That's how you get more Trump. Just ask Hillary and Marco. That part is clear. Still have no forking idea what he was trying to convey unless it was the painfully obvious statement on its face. Which seems to be a painfully silly thing to say. (Which seems par for this election's course.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: He's trying to out Trump Trump which is a bad strategy. That's how you get more Trump. Just ask Hillary and Marco. 13 minutes ago, Taro T said: That part is clear. Still have no forking idea what he was trying to convey unless it was the painfully obvious statement on its face. Which seems to be a painfully silly thing to say. (Which seems par for this election's course.) TWO SCOOPS V 2.0!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The WaPo getting burned to the ground by progfascist Bernie Bros would be delicious shadenfreude. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The WaPo getting burned to the ground by progfascist Bernie Bros would be delicious shadenfreude. Speaking to reporters in Bakersfield, California, Friday afternoon, Sanders confirmed that his campaign was briefed about the Kremlin's efforts about a month ago and condemned Russia's attempts to interfere in US elections. "It was not clear what role they're going to play. We were told that Russia, maybe other countries, are going to get involved in this campaign, and look, here's the message to Russia: stay out of American elections," Sanders said. "And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing that they are doing, and I've seen some of their tweets and stuff, is they try to divide us up. That's what they did in 2016 and that is the ugliest thing they are doing -- is they are trying to cause chaos, they are trying to cause hatred in America." What a terrible guy. I repeat: here's the message to Russia: stay out of American elections," Sanders said. "And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing that they are doing, and I've seen some of their tweets and stuff, is they try to divide us up. That's what they did in 2016 and that is the ugliest thing they are doing -- is they are trying to cause chaos, they are trying to cause hatred in America." What more can the guy say? I think delicious schadenfreude would be watching this place melt down over "Russian interference" for the next 4 years if Sanders wins. The way so many of you are scared of the "commie" reeks of TDS. I urge all of you to take just one step back and breathe. You must all be sick of Trump is the worst ever and will be the destruction of America!! yet here so many of you are ready to proclaim the same for Sanders. edit: also what's with the editorializing? I see nothing about "releasing the hounds" he lets off a sarcastic they are great friends talking about the WaPo and that is it. Edited February 21, 2020 by section122 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, section122 said: edit: also what's with the editorializing? I see nothing about "releasing the hounds" he lets off a sarcastic they are great friends talking about the WaPo and that is it. He pointed at them with his assault-finger as he said it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: He pointed at them with his assault-finger as he said it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Hedge said: Question to the board, should anyone have any experience with NDAs: If a woman has a NDA with Bloomberg, would she be allowed, per agreement, to say she had one or do they typically have language within them that prohibits even mentioning that it exists? In other words, did Bloomberg cherry pick 3 NDAs that his legal people and political advisers felt would not harm him very much, if exposed (and they knew they had to admit to a few after the Lizzie scalping). And that there may be others which exist, but will never see the light of day, because the women bound by them can't speak up and say "How come I am not released from my NDA?". I'm not familiar with NDAs as they relate to keeping employees quiet about sexual inappropriateness. Most of the ones I sign are giving me access to discuss products/projects with customers who, after the fact, want me to keep my mouth shut about their products/projects. That said, he made a comment at the debate that came across as condescending as schitt to this topic, but is probably the kind of thing you're going to hear: "they didn't like a joke I told." So he made a bad joke, some chicks got offended, knows he hands out c-notes like Chiclets, and grabbed some go-away cash. I doubt he would release something salacious. But on the other hand, he's proven he really has no regards for the little people, and if his team was stupid enough to buy a billboard about burned steak, who knows how stupid they are about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Bernie was briefed a month ago... and when asked why it came out now, said "I'll let you figure it out." LOL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, section122 said: What more can the guy say? I think delicious schadenfreude would be watching this place melt down over "Russian interference" for the next 4 years if Sanders wins. He won't win -- but if he did, the media (establishment) would absolutely play that same card. It won't work for the majority of people here. We've seen behind the curtain already, Russia isn't the one interfering in our elections, the establishment (both DNC and GOP + IC) are. 2 hours ago, section122 said: The way so many of you are scared of the "commie" reeks of TDS. It's also factually accurate. He's a communist. Democratic Socialism is a stepping stone to Communism (as is socialism). 99% of the supporters cannot define capitalism or socialism, but are convinced that capitalism is broken and socialism is the only answer. Bernie feasts on these people's ignorance. There are two basic truths which cannot be avoided if you're honest about assessing the state of the country today and the rise of socialism/communism: 1) Our education system was infiltrated by marxists for decades, and as a result we've let our people down. Especially the under 30 generations 2) The common theme is that capitalism is broken, but that's a trick. A dodge. Capitalism isn't broken, it's just our system is no longer capitalistic as much as it is a kleptocracy. Switching to socialism to fix "capitalism" is not an answer. That will only compound the rot and accelerate the decline of the working and middle classes. The history of socialism and communism is one of mass murder, war, and genocide on an industrial scale. It happens every time. It would be no difference here. Bernie would open the door, and the next few through would do the real damage. 2 hours ago, section122 said: I urge all of you to take just one step back and breathe. You must all be sick of Trump is the worst ever and will be the destruction of America!! yet here so many of you are ready to proclaim the same for Sanders. 100s of millions of people have died in the name of what Sanders is pushing. It's not the same thing. 2 hours ago, section122 said: edit: also what's with the editorializing? I see nothing about "releasing the hounds" he lets off a sarcastic they are great friends talking about the WaPo and that is it. Hang around some real Bernie Bros or Antifa folk and then see if it was just a sarcastic comment. It wasn't to them. Just watch. ****************** Correct. This is an information operation. Again. Pushed not by Russia, but by the establishment media IC (who are one and the same) and the establishment DNC who realize Bernie winning the nomination will cost them the House and the Oval. Edited February 22, 2020 by Deranged Rhino typo/clarity 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 *********************** 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: *********************** https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sanders-tax-plan-52-percent/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sanders-tax-plan-52-percent/ Wow, I'm impressed that snopes took time away from fact checking the Babylon Bee to address this issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Speaking of NDAs...this looks a bit problematic. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: He won't win -- but if he did, the media (establishment) would absolutely play that same card. It won't work for the majority of people here. We've seen behind the curtain already, Russia isn't the one interfering in our elections, the establishment (both DNC and GOP + IC) are. It's also factually accurate. He's a communist. Democratic Socialism is a stepping stone to Communism (as is socialism). 99% of the supporters cannot define capitalism or socialism, but are convinced that capitalism is broken and socialism is the only answer. Bernie feasts on these people's ignorance. There are two basic truths which cannot be avoided if you're honest about assessing the state of the country today and the rise of socialism/communism: 1) Our education system was infiltrated by marxists for decades, and as a result we've let our people down. Especially the under 30 generations 2) The common theme is that capitalism is broken, but that's a trick. A dodge. Capitalism isn't broken, it's just our system is no longer capitalistic as much as it is a kleptocracy. Switching to socialism to fix "capitalism" is not an answer. That will only compound the rot and accelerate the decline of the working and middle classes. The history of socialism and capitalism communism is one of mass murder, war, and genocide on an industrial scale. It happens every time. It would be no difference here. Bernie would open the door, and the next few through would do the real damage. 100s of millions of people have died in the name of what Sanders is pushing. It's not the same thing. Hang around some real Bernie Bros or Antifa folk and then see if it was just a sarcastic comment. It wasn't to them. Just watch. ****************** Correct. This is an information operation. Again. Pushed not by Russia, but by the establishment media IC (who are one and the same) and the establishment DNC who realize Bernie winning the nomination will cost them the House and the Oval. FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Taro T said: FTFY. That was a typo. Not my intent at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: That was a typo. Not my intent at all Realized that. Thus the FTFY. (Which, possibly for the 1st time in the history of the internet wasn't meant in a sarcastic manner.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, B-Man said: . I dislike Mini Mike but at least he's trying to buy the election with his money while Bernie is trying to buy it with taxpayer's money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sabrecrazed Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: He won't win -- but if he did, the media (establishment) would absolutely play that same card. It won't work for the majority of people here. We've seen behind the curtain already, Russia isn't the one interfering in our elections, the establishment (both DNC and GOP + IC) are. It's also factually accurate. He's a communist. Democratic Socialism is a stepping stone to Communism (as is socialism). 99% of the supporters cannot define capitalism or socialism, but are convinced that capitalism is broken and socialism is the only answer. Bernie feasts on these people's ignorance. There are two basic truths which cannot be avoided if you're honest about assessing the state of the country today and the rise of socialism/communism: 1) Our education system was infiltrated by marxists for decades, and as a result we've let our people down. Especially the under 30 generations 2) The common theme is that capitalism is broken, but that's a trick. A dodge. Capitalism isn't broken, it's just our system is no longer capitalistic as much as it is a kleptocracy. Switching to socialism to fix "capitalism" is not an answer. That will only compound the rot and accelerate the decline of the working and middle classes. The history of socialism and communism is one of mass murder, war, and genocide on an industrial scale. It happens every time. It would be no difference here. Bernie would open the door, and the next few through would do the real damage. 100s of millions of people have died in the name of what Sanders is pushing. It's not the same thing. Hang around some real Bernie Bros or Antifa folk and then see if it was just a sarcastic comment. It wasn't to them. Just watch. There is no such thing as "democratic socialism". Bernie simply prettied up socialism by putting the word democratic in front of it. It makes those who refuse to think for themselves feel better about it. It's just socialism/communism. It's all the same, just word games. They do it with capitalism too. Evil capitalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 This could get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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