ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 These researchers think they know: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6207059/amp/What-makes-man-cheat-college-education-working-bar.html College educated and working around more women or working in a bar. Water still makes OTHER THINGS wet. Yet, college educated women stray less. Go figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Sex feels good ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) When it gets stiff, the little head takes over the brain. Edited September 26, 2018 by mead107 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Men didn't evolve to be monogamous. We force ourselves to be. It's really that simple. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 nautically speaking....any port in a storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 10 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: These researchers think they know: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6207059/amp/What-makes-man-cheat-college-education-working-bar.html College educated and working around more women or working in a bar. Water still makes OTHER THINGS wet. Yet, college educated women stray less. Go figure? I could think of dozens of reasons of why men cheat although I have never cheated on my wife. I question that college educated women stray less. I think that on average women are more aggressive than they were a couple generations ago. I have had women burn a hole through me at even a church when I am there with my wife. I have had women just ignore when I bring up that I have a wife when at a store. Quite often these are women who keep trim athletic bodies and dress to flaunt what they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 What's monogamy???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: What's monogamy???? It's when you stick with one woman, for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 We begin by coveting what we see every day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: We begin by coveting what we see every day Coveting is typically a religious notion and a notion that Catholics employ though not limited to Catholics. I think that most men's brains are more primal than that. Anyhow, if looking through a religious filter that the concepts of temptation and of forgiveness also are part of the cycle. Hopefully. If the notion of thinking it is just as bad as doing it is the ultimate filter then most guys including myself are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) I'd offer men cheat out of loneliness, primarily, not sex. The older you get, the less friends the modern male tends to have. Once the kids and mortgage come along and the job with long hours, the Mrs. no longer sees you as that hot man but the necessary means to the end of making money, mowing lawn, etc. A man can be surrounded by lots of people and feel quite isolated. In the old days, men would leave work and hang out at the bar for a few hours or join a social club or participate in things like a bowling league or game/fish club. Today, most men are more isolated - they work out alone, do activities alone, do yard work alone or surrounded by the wife and kids 24/7. The question that I wish that "research" looked into was if the cheaitng men had any sort of their "own" social circle with their own hobbies. I'd guess they do not and I'd hypothesize that men with the more active social circle have less inclination to cheat because life feels a little more fulfilling and active. Edited September 26, 2018 by dpberr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, Just Jack said: It's when you stick with one woman, for life. Why the hell would anyone do that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, dpberr said: I'd offer men cheat out of loneliness, primarily, not sex. The older you get, the less friends the modern male tends to have. Once the kids and mortgage come along and the job with long hours, the Mrs. no longer sees you as that hot man but the necessary means to the end of making money, mowing lawn, etc. A man can be surrounded by lots of people and feel quite isolated. In the old days, men would leave work and hang out at the bar for a few hours or join a social club or participate in things like a bowling league or game/fish club. Today, most men are more isolated - they work out alone, do activities alone, do yard work alone or surrounded by the wife and kids 24/7. The question that I wish that "research" looked into was if the cheaitng men had any sort of their "own" social circle with their own hobbies. I'd guess they do not and I'd hypothesize that men with the more active social circle have less inclination to cheat because life feels a little more fulfilling and active. I support the notion that activities lessen the likelihood of cheating but loneliness being a source of the desire to cheat is hit or miss depending on the man. Any impulses I might have to cheat are not due to me being lonely. Me having any kind of productive day due to work or hobby far lessens the sexual desire that may be pointed at women other than my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 3 hours ago, eball said: Men didn't evolve to be monogamous. We force ourselves to be. It's really that simple. I agree with this. Something that a lot of people don't talk about is the fact that the novelty of having a new sex partner is a big part of sexual attraction for men. I.E., that which is fresh and new is sexy; that which is old and familiar loses sexual attraction. There's a reason for that; we're programmed by evolution to sprinkle our DNA over a wide sample of the population to ensure our offspring survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Sex feels good ? Especially with some strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I could think of dozens of reasons of why men cheat although I have never cheated on my wife. I question that college educated women stray less. I think that on average women are more aggressive than they were a couple generations ago. I have had women burn a hole through me at even a church when I am there with my wife. I have had women just ignore when I bring up that I have a wife when at a store. Quite often these are women who keep trim athletic bodies and dress to flaunt what they have. Based on my experience, I also question that conclusion. I think college educated women are just more discrete. In my single days I had 3 different married women start the flirtation with me that ended up in bed. As for men, it's not rocket science. What makes a man stray is usually opportunity. IMO, most married men don't go seeking it out, but many don't have the willpower to say no if they get an offer. Married women on the other hand get offers all the time....that's not what makes them stray. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Why the hell would anyone do that? Long Answer: Because it's socially responsible, adds order to the community and provides society with some sort of moral compass. Basically, it staves off chaos, anarchy and people living purely by emotion and their sexual desire. And... We see how wonderful communities become when they start living off their primal urges = Chaos. Unlike rabbits or other species of animals, insects, etc... Outside of war, disease, famine what is the orderly predation towards humans? The check is to limit supply in a sane and orderly fashion In short, the human world needs order, not emotion, chaos caused by primal urges. And religion has genuinely tried to provide that, same with governments now that religion is being questioned more and more and the individual is seen as the most important. Answer: Good social order. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Based on my experience, I also question that conclusion. I think college educated women are just more discrete. In my single days I had 3 different married women start the flirtation with me that ended up in bed. As for men, it's not rocket science. What makes a man stray is usually opportunity. IMO, most married men don't go seeking it out, but many don't have the willpower to say no if they get an offer. Married women on the other hand get offers all the time....that's not what makes them stray. I agree with your last sentence. I am not sure how many guys go seeking it out but unless you live like a hermit it seems opportunity is there at a minimum of once per month. I've always turned it down since being married but get the shakes while going through the offer and for a few hour afterward. College educated women fall into a few different categories when it comes to fidelity. I've known women who have put up with cheaters but take the stance that I have come this far and worked hard for my profession so I will maintain appearances to my peers. Some take the view that an open marriage where both partners have outside relationships is part of a modern enlightened marriage. Then there are those who are firmly attached to traditional social structures. It may surprise the authors of the article in that many non-college educated women do not mate like animals and firmly believe in a committed relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Long Answer: Because it's socially responsible, adds order to the community and provides society with some sort of moral compass. Basically, it staves off chaos, anarchy and people living purely by emotion and their sexual desire. And... We see how wonderful communities become when they start living off their primal urges = Chaos. Unlike rabbits or other species of animals, insects, etc... Outside of war, disease, famine what is the orderly predation towards humans? The check is to limit supply in a sane and orderly fashion In short, the human world needs order, not emotion, chaos caused by primal urges. And religion has genuinely tried to provide that, same with governments now that religion is being questioned more and more and the individual is seen as the most important. Answer: Good social order. Sounds boring af 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Long Answer: Because it's socially responsible, adds order to the community and provides society with some sort of moral compass. Basically, it staves off chaos, anarchy and people living purely by emotion and their sexual desire. And... We see how wonderful communities become when they start living off their primal urges = Chaos. Unlike rabbits or other species of animals, insects, etc... Outside of war, disease, famine what is the orderly predation towards humans? The check is to limit supply in a sane and orderly fashion In short, the human world needs order, not emotion, chaos caused by primal urges. And religion has genuinely tried to provide that, same with governments now that religion is being questioned more and more and the individual is seen as the most important. Answer: Good social order. If I had to guess the ancients including the contributors to the Bible knew that open infidelity often would lead to murder among other problems. Society would be far more chaotic if cheating was very open and wide spread. Edited September 26, 2018 by RochesterRob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Sounds boring af Sounds boring in the ghetto too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, eball said: Men didn't evolve to be monogamous. We force ourselves to be. It's really that simple. Actually, there's evidence to suggest that we did evolve toward monogamy. The extensive care required and resources allocated to childrearing in our species due to human children's relative vulnerability after birth are often cited as causes for monogamous partnerships among parents. There's also research showing that monogamy has higher incidence payoffs for the majority of the human species as average males can achieve higher paternity with a single partner. Edited September 26, 2018 by GoBills808 'actually' twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 I pose this question to Our Swedish rocket surgeon researchers: What educated woman wants to be with an uneducated man? And what uneducated woman wants to be with an educated man? LMAO... Crunch those numbers. Oh, Boyst... You're an outliar, farmer too boot! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) What makes a man cheat? Ask the equipment manager for the New England Patriots. Edited September 26, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Never under-estimate the power of Strange. It doesnt have to be better, it just has to be different than the same ol thing we've been getting at home. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I pose this question to Our Swedish rocket surgeon researchers: What educated woman wants to be with an uneducated man? And what uneducated woman wants to be with an educated man? LMAO... Crunch those numbers. Oh, Boyst... You're an outliar, farmer too boot! ? Education is relative. A person can go to Cornell for any number of ag degrees or a person can go to a community college for a business degree. Many Cornell ag degrees have a heavy emphasis on business and economics. I've taken intro macro economics in both settings and there is far more material in the Cornell class than the MCC class. The Cornell ag school is a back door for quite a few wishing to take business courses at state college prices versus going the endowed avenue. Anyhow, my degree in business/ economics may make me appear less educated to some than somebody who may take engineering or computer science. Just looking back at my high school graduating class just as many "educated" women came directly or indirectly seeking me out as there were women with just high school diploma's or one year trade schools over the past few decades. In general the "educated" were more bold even if they were just getting an impression of the at the time current me. 16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Never under-estimate the power of Strange. It doesnt have to be better, it just has to be different than the same ol thing we've been getting at home. Yep, I wasted a couple of college semesters attempting to land a woman that was outside of my background. Did not have much of a chance but I was enthralled by the "dish I never had before" aspect. Edited September 26, 2018 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Why the hell would anyone do that? I do it because I met someone who shares, down the most intricate minutia, my values and morals, my goals and dreams, has nearly perfectly overlapping interests and passions, whom I share an incredible intimacy with unlike any woman I ever met before her, and I am attracted to on a physical level in an overwhelming way. She cares deeply for me in the same way, and demonstrates it in the way she lives her life to make mine easier, just as I do with mine for her. She's the very best friend I've ever made, and spending time with another woman would just mean less time I was able to spend with her. I don't think monogamy is for everyone, and until I met my wife I never would have thought that it was for me. Some might say that the grass isn't always greener, but for me it's not that. It's that I can visibly see how much more lush my lawn is than everyone else's. Edited September 27, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Education is relative. A person can go to Cornell for any number of ag degrees or a person can go to a community college for a business degree. Many Cornell ag degrees have a heavy emphasis on business and economics. I've taken intro macro economics in both settings and there is far more material in the Cornell class than the MCC class. The Cornell ag school is a back door for quite a few wishing to take business courses at state college prices versus going the endowed avenue. Anyhow, my degree in business/ economics my make me appear less educated to some than somebody who may take engineering or computer science. Just looking back at my high school graduating class just as many "educated" women came directly or indirectly seeking me out as there were women with just high school diploma's or one year trade schools over the past few decades. In general the "educated" were more bold even if they were just getting an impression of the at the time current me. No. You're "college" educated. So, the study has merit. Interested to see what the offers would be if you were just a HS grad working @ McDonald's? The study didn't split degrees of "college" educated, just if they were or were not. Women tend to seek wealth and stability. Men sex. 6 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I do it because I met someone who shares, down the most intricate minutia, my values and morals, goals and dreams, has nearly perfectly overlapping interests and passions, I share incredible intimacy with unlike any woman I ever met before her, I am attracted to on a physical level in an overwhelming way. She cares deeply for me in the same way, and demonstrates it in the way she lives her life to make mine easier, just as I do with mine for her. She's the very best friend I've ever made, and spending time with another woman would just mean less time I was able to spend with her. I don't think monogamy is for everyone, and until I met my wife I never would have thought that it was for me. Some might say that the grass isn't always greener, but for me it's not that. It's that I can visibly see how much more lush my lawn is than everyone else's. You forgot to add: Porn on weekends, while Her's is getting mowed by the plumber. LoL... J/K. Oh... I forgot to ask TYTT: Are You both college educated? Edited September 26, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I do it because I met someone who shares, down the most intricate minutia, my values and morals, goals and dreams, has nearly perfectly overlapping interests and passions, I share incredible intimacy with unlike any woman I ever met before her, I am attracted to on a physical level in an overwhelming way. She cares deeply for me in the same way, and demonstrates it in the way she lives her life to make mine easier, just as I do with mine for her. She's the very best friend I've ever made, and spending time with another woman would just mean less time I was able to spend with her. I don't think monogamy is for everyone, and until I met my wife I never would have thought that it was for me. Some might say that the grass isn't always greener, but for me it's not that. It's that I can visibly see how much more lush my lawn is than everyone else's. Well put. I'm on a new record for me. 4 months monogamous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: Well put. I'm on a new record for me. 4 months monogamous. Let me know when you get to 20+ years rookie! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: Let me know when you get to 20+ years rookie! LOL That'll never happen. I can't wait until I am 40 and single. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: No. You're "college" educated. So, the study has merit. Interested to see what the offers would be if you were just a HS grad working @ McDonald's? The study didn't split degrees of "college" educated, just if they were or were not. Women tend to seek wealth and stability. Men sex. You forgot to add: Porn on weekends, while Her's is getting mowed by the plumber. LoL... J/K. Oh... I forgot to ask TYTT: Are You both college educated? The most intense offer was by a very attractive educated female classmate and the picture sent was very interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The most intense offer was by a very attractive educated female classmate and the picture sent was very interesting. But You are college educated! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 He fears death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: LoL... J/K. Oh... I forgot to ask TYTT: Are You both college educated? We are, but to differing degrees. I have more education than her, but recognize her as my intellectual equal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Why the hell would anyone do that? Double the income with a lot less than half the expenses. And from a financial planning standpoint the government tends to give financial perks to married couples that non-married couples don’t have. Why the recognition of same sex marriage on the federal level was so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Double the income with a lot less than half the expenses. And from a financial planning standpoint the government tends to give financial perks to married couples that non-married couples don’t have. Why the recognition of same sex marriage on the federal level was so important. So, can we get married if it'll help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: So, can we get married if it'll help? I’m already spoken for and you’re too hairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Sounds boring in the ghetto too. What does this mean ? Edited September 26, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I’m already spoken for and you’re too hairy. You like hairless men? @mrags has that nice big bald dome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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