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22 hours ago, K-9 said:

His billing was as the top QB prospect since Elway. See how that’s not the same as the top prospect of all time?

 

Those QBs on your list; can you provide breakdowns of their first three years and what they were able to accomplish in that timeframe? 

 

He was hurt halfway into his fourth season and missed a year and a half in rehab and is still not 100%. Is that not a consideration? 

 

I don’t know if you’re crazy or not, but you seem to lack an understanding into why scouts made those evaluations of him as a prospect coming out. EVERY criteria listed as a predictor of his potential for success, from decision making, to accuracy, to arm strength and everything in between has been shown to be warranted. That’s why he’s lived up to the hype. 

 

Now, if you need to conflate the careers of HOFers, SB winners, future HOFers, playing in different systems, under different coaches, and with far superior supporting casts, feel free to continue to do so. Perhaps another hockey player or bull riding rodeo star instead? By all means. Wiser people would wait until all the data on Luck’s career is in. 

Aren't you arguing with the guy who posited that we won too many games vs the NFC?

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4 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Aren't you arguing with the guy who posited that we won too many games vs the NFC?

He is being totally tongue in cheek about winning too many NFC games so that’s kind of amusing.

 

But I think he’s being totally serious about Luck.

 

Your point is a good one though as it’s a complete waste of time to debate the issue any further. I agree to disagree and will simply leave it at that. 

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21 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Luck is in his 7th year.  Let's make sure we judge him on his first three years against the Texans, Titans and Jags who were all atrocious.  Let's claim nobody had a better first three years even though Brady won a Super Bowl as a rookie and Warner was ok his first year too.  Make sure not to look at 2016 when Luck blew two easy 4th down plays which cost the Colts a playoff spot.  

 

He is simply the best QB since Elway.  Nobody has been better.  I am convinced he has lived up to everything expected of him and more.

 

Brady didn't win a Super Bowl as a rookie. Sorry to break it to you.

 

In fact, no rookie QB has ever won, or even started in, the Super Bowl.

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

 

Brady didn't win a Super Bowl as a rookie. Sorry to break it to you.

 

In fact, no rookie QB has ever won, or even started in, the Super Bowl.

I'm pretty sure it was within his first 3 years or whatever artificial standard we've shifted today to fit the Kim Jung QB narrative.

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5 hours ago, 3rd Inning said:

Yes he was. At the time he won the SB he had not yet started 16 regular season games.

 

That's not what a rookie is. A rookie is someone who is in their first NFL season, regardless of playing time.

 

Would you say a 10 year career backup who has never started a game is still a rookie?

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20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Right.  Because there was never a year when Luck got hurt and Hasselbeck came in and produced a better winning percentage.  I mean other than 2016. So once every two thousand and sixteen years it could happen.

 

They also went 0-16 last year.  At least I think so.

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13 hours ago, 3rd Inning said:

Yes he was. At the time he won the SB he had not yet started 16 regular season games.

 

Warner, Marino and Brady weren't officially rookies for their SB debuts, but they weren't highly qualified either

 

 

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7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Oh the hairs that will be split in defense of Kim Jung QB.

 

This from the guy who says that because Luck is not the next Wayne Gretzky,

 

[sorry, I just keep laughing that that's the premise of whatever comes next to justify how "right" you are].

 

Please keep posting. It's really good stuff. 

 

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THREE AND OUT: Quick takes on big developments across the league

1) Andrew Luck's evolution under Frank Reich. It's hard to justify including a .500 quarterback in the MVP discussion, but Andrew Luck deserves "honorable mention" status based on his exceptional play this season. After missing the entire 2017 campaign with a shoulder issue, the three-time Pro Bowler has posted fine numbers in 2018: 67.3 percent completion rate, 29:9 touchdown-to-interception ratio, 101.8 passer rating. Luck's projected final numbers (4,430 pass yards, 46:14 TD-to-INT ratio, along with the aforementioned completion rate and passer rating) show he's on a pace quite similar to the average of the last 10 quarterbacks to win the MVP award (67.0 percent completion rate, 4,507 pass yards, 39:9 TD-to-INT ratio, 109.2 passer rating).
 
That's an insane amount of production coming from a quarterback returning to the lineup following a career-threatening injury to his throwing arm, but it is even more remarkable when you consider Luck's circumstances. He returned to a Colts team that featured one blue-chip player (T.Y. Hilton) and a handful of "possibles" (Eric EbronJack DoyleErik Swoope and Mo Alie-Cox) on the perimeter. Not to mention, he's playing behind a rebuilt offensive line with a couple of rookies (Quenton Nelson and Braden Smith) acclimating to the pro game.
 
Considering Luck is also stepping into a new offensive system crafted by a first-time head coach, No. 12's success demands great appreciation, especially with Indianapolis (5-5) surprisingly right in playoff contention.
 
While most of the credit for Luck's performance should go directly to the quarterback for his diligent work on and off the field, the arrival of Reich (and his quarterback-friendly system) has certainly helped Luck become a more effective and efficient player from the pocket.
 
Instead of Indy's old "bombs away" system that encouraged Luck to hold onto the ball while waiting on deep routes to uncover from traditional and spread formations, the Colts are using a quick-rhythm scheme that features a number of short and intermediate routes from spread formations, as well as two- and three-man vertical routes from run-heavy sets following hard play-action fakes.
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I've watched a couple Colts games this year and parts of many others on the Sunday Ticket.  And here's my assessment: when the experts said he was the once in a decade QB prospect coming out of college, they were right. Despite the beating he took in that Colts offense the last couple years he played, he still shows remarkable accuracy and field awareness. Maybe Mahomes will be next, maybe Goff. I don't know. But Luck is still really, really good ...

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Gase lost this game for the Dolphins. He has no idea on how to wins games and has screwed up the rb situation. Drake has all 4 of the dolphins running tds this year, constantly makes plays and he isnt getting the majority of the handoffs??

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29 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Yes, Luck just "done" 30 for 37, 377 yards.  That's well done.

 

I saw in another thread where stuvian had a hot take about BBMB being the "golden age of message board posting".?

 

Which, come to think of it,  is consistent with the fact that he thought starting this thread was a good idea.

 

This thread is the quality of hot take you could find on that illegible, seizure-inducing BBMB shite show.

 

That place is mercifully done........Luck is not. 

 

 

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Fillm Study: Andrew Luck Better Than Ever

 

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For much of the past year, many wondered if we’d already seen the best of Andrew Luck.
 
Even three weeks into this season, some questioned the health of Luck’s surgically repaired right shoulder, citing a wealth of dink-and-dunk throws (5.3 yards per attempt in Weeks 1-3 despite a 68.6 percent completion rate) and Jacoby Brissett’s cameo on a Hail Mary against the Eagles.
 
Two months later, Luck might be better than ever.
 
He posted his eighth straight game with three-plus passing touchdowns — the second-longest streak ever, behind only Tom Brady’s 10-game run in 2007 — on Sunday against the Dolphins, earning the Colts their fifth straight win with a rally reminiscent of Indy’s 2012 and 2013 teams.

 

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