CSBill Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Who was the baseball manager that said, "we stunk with you, we can be just as bad without you"? . . . get something while we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I agree 100%, Murphey is not much of a down grade and getting a 3rd would be huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, CSBill said: Who was the baseball manager that said, "we stunk with you, we can be just as bad without you"? . . . get something while we can. Not sure but remember that A-Rod once won the MVP on a last-place team (Rangers). Think where they'd have finished without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Not now. Maybe later in the season if a contender has an injury pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I agree 100%, Murphey is not much of a down grade and getting a 3rd would be huge Did you just say “getting a 3d”? ? On 9/10/2018 at 5:46 AM, JohnBonhamRocks said: Wouldn’t be shocked if we ended up getting some decent return for McCoy and/or Benjamin. A 4th and 5th respectively would make sense to me as the best possible return. You’re dreaming. And at any rate, McBeane would just give away the resulting picks in a trade up for the next Zay Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, mannc said: Did you just say “getting a 3d”? ? You’re dreaming. And at any rate, McBeane would just give away the resulting picks in a trade up for the next Zay Jones. Did I dream AJ McCarron netting a 5th and Tyrod Taylor netting 65th overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Didn’t read through the whole thread, but if they’re going with Allen, trading the player who might be able to help take some of the pressure off of him would be a mistake IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, transient said: Didn’t read through the whole thread, but if they’re going with Allen, trading the player who might be able to help take some of the pressure off of him would be a mistake IMO. This was my exact thought. Allen needs at least one above-average NFL skill position player to work with. Not going to net much for Shady at this point so just ride out the contract so long as he remains productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: This was my exact thought. Allen needs at least one above-average NFL skill position player to work with. Not going to net much for Shady at this point so just ride out the contract so long as he remains productive. This....need Shady now more then ever. Its not just about getting Josh experience...its about keeping him in one piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 If the Steelers can get a 3rd for Bryant then Buffalo can get a 3rd from a team contending for a Super Bowl. What’s a 3rd rounder compared to a dual threat RB who hasn’t showed any real signs of slowing down and could be the missing piece to a title. Lombardi Trophy > Late 3rd round draft pick. Just wait for the inevitable injury to pop up on one of the contenders... Or if the Colts really believe Luck is back to 110%, McCoy could be the back they need. At worst a 4th, but I think a 3rd is doable for sure. Benjamin and Clay are more like the guys they would end up getting a 5th or 6th for, and I would take it. Bring back Streater or Reily, and O’Leary, at least they played with some heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) On 9/9/2018 at 4:41 PM, Rigotz said: It’s pretty obvious the Bills are gonna struggle badly this season. If we can get a nice pick for McCoy, this is pretty much a full rebuild and he’s only got 3-4 pro bowl years left, maximum. Reality seems to finally be setting in for Bills fans about this season. We need to trade him now, right? At the trade deadline there are a couple players I am looking to move. McCoy is one of them. Kyle, Clay, Hughes, Lorax are some of the others. KB is another Edited September 12, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 2:55 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Nah, just cut Peterman. Exactly, before we start worrying about dealing Shady, let's replace PeterPan asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I’d trade everyone except Allen, Dawkins and Murphy on offense. On D the only keepers are Edmunds, Philips, White, Poyer and Hyde. That’s pretty sad. Milano possibly. He played well from my eye last week. Hope he can build off that because he sucked in preseason. $tar $otelelel might end up being the worst free agent acquisition ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 How much drop off would there actually be if we traded McCoy and started Murphy in his place? I love McCoy, but he is not making a difference in this team this year or next. I would be in favor of a trade but I think the most we would get is a third. 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’d trade everyone except Allen, Dawkins and Murphy on offense. On D the only keepers are Edmunds, Philips, White, Poyer and Hyde. That’s pretty sad. Milano possibly. He played well from my eye last week. Hope he can build off that because he sucked in preseason. $tar $otelelel might end up being the worst free agent acquisition ever. We can cut him after year 3 and only have around a $5.5 million cap hit. If he sucks, it really doesn't interfere with the cap space when we will need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I don't know if I'd want to trade a team captain. They were picked by the team to represent the team. What kind of message would that send to the rest of the guys? No message of family, or "we don't bring in football players, we bring in people" would ever be believed going forward. McD and Beane would lose the team for sure if Shady was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: How much drop off would there actually be if we traded McCoy and started Murphy in his place? I love McCoy, but he is not making a difference in this team this year or next. I would be in favor of a trade but I think the most we would get is a third. We can cut him after year 3 and only have around a $5.5 million cap hit. If he sucks, it really doesn't interfere with the cap space when we will need it. It’s 10 million a year on a bum. That’s 10million we could pay a good OL or WR. Paying players that aren’t good 10 mill a year is always bad and will interfere with the cap space. No question. Hopefully im wring about him and he turns out to be a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) I have been anti-trade of McCoy up to now. HOWEVER, if things continue like they showed in preseason and week 1, then I am fully on board with trading McCoy. Murphy looks like a competent replacement and we still have Ivory too. What is more important, Shady is at the end of his career on a bad team, he isnt going to get us anywhere more than we will get if he wasnt here. We have a LOT of holes on this team, so compiling even more assets for an aging star now would be the right move for us, and also the right move for Shady who should finish his career on a team he can help win some games. Personally, if I am Beane I would put feelers out to 49ers, Houston, Indy, Detroit, Car, TB, and Jax. Niners, Detroit and Indy are a very obvious choice with the lack of a true lead back and teams that really need to help their QB's with a run game. Houston has Miller, but he is a mediocre starting RB and McCoy would be a dangerous addition to that offense. Carolina has McCaffery but they could use a guy more suited to be a feature back to use in a dual threat attack. Jax could use some insurance with Fournette already dinged up again and has a history of being dinged up. Would call Miami too as Drake I dont think is making anyone think they are for sure set at RB. We should be able to get a 3rd for McCoy. No way we get more than a 2nd at his age though, but a 3rd is reasonable. We may be able to swing a 2nd, but might need to send back like the Raiders 5th or something with McCoy just because a 2nd is a lot to pay for a 30 year old RB. Edited September 12, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 McCoy a 2nd and a 5th for Bell if we can fit him under the Cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: McCoy a 2nd and a 5th for Bell if we can fit him under the Cap. It might be straight out of Madden but I was thinking the same thing. The Bell situation in Pitt is a mess. We have Allen on a rookie contract so break the bank and sign Bell long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 bills should trade mccoy to san fran if they are looking horrible by the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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