MarkAF43 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Just now, The Final Word said: No, Allen is a project. They wanted Allen all along. He was rated number one on their draft chart forever. He has the intangibles that you cannot coach. Size, speed, and a cannon for an arm. He works hard and listens well. He will play later in the year. McDermott won’t lose the locker room before the season starts. We will be better this year than last year but won’t make the playoffs. We have an exciting future. If you have paid attention to the data points, bean and McDermott and have said over and over again, Allen won’t be rushed. Our line is not ready for him to start. I hope. That helps you Data points=connect the dots don, still as pathetic as ever. Just now, The Final Word said: Please don’t discount AJ. If AJ is healthy, he starts hands down Oh wait. You said the plan all along was to start Peterman.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, MarkAF43 said: Data points=connect the dots don, still as pathetic as ever. Oh wait. You said the plan all along was to start Peterman.... It was after aj got hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Just now, The Final Word said: It was after aj got hurt False. You made no mention of that. So nice try. You're already back pedaling. Just go away man. Your schtick is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: I could see them starting NP after todays game It will be announced at the next press conference. No other choice. I like peterman. He has a quick release, throw the ball down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Final Word said: I realize it is not the proper protocol to start a new thread during a game but I felt compelled to start this thread to ensure those Bills fans suffering from Allen fatigue and calling Beane an idiot for drafting Allen. Allen is the quarterback of the future period. If you recall, he was number one on our draft board for months prior to the draft. He possesses all of the tangibles but requires additional work with his footwork. Will be corrected this year. Although Josh started today’s games which traditionally means he would be starting the first game. Many novices would obviously jump to this conclusion and it most cases would be warranted but not in this case. Those close to the happenings at obd though realize the rationale for McDermott decision for today’s game. The plan was and still is not to start Allen at quarterback day 1. I knew before the start of action today, Peterman will be our starting quarterback for the first game and THAT IS THE FINAL WORD. PS I will try to provide the site with expert clarifications and happenings as the season progresses There you go. No mention of AJ's injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 We have some big decisions to make prior to our first game. We know peterman starts but the te position is up for grabs. I know people are down on clay and rightly so but he will be starting. Teller is a rookie and not ready for prime time. Look for Troy going to guard to replace miller. Davis has not played well either. I know McDermott doesn’t like him but frasier does. Will be interesting to see who wills that one. McDermott also down on Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Sometimes you can just tell by the user name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Peterman has been great all preseason. He's in control of the offense, knows to take what the defense gives him to keep the down and distance manageable, he's accurate, and the ball comes out on time. His arm is obviously lacking when he throws outside the hash marks, but if we can game plan to attack the middle of the field off play action he can have success. Allen showed today he's not ready. The Bengals dialed up some pressure and he couldn't handle it. He didn't anticipate pressure, he patted the ball and took sacks when he could have harmlessly dumped it incomplete and put the offense in unmanageable 3rd and long situations. He needs to learn a lot about how to take what the defense gives him and avoid sacks at all costs because they're such drive killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Final Word said: It was after aj got hurt You're the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Peterman has been great all preseason. He's in control of the offense, knows to take what the defense gives him to keep the down and distance manageable, he's accurate, and the ball comes out on time. His arm is obviously lacking when he throws outside the hash marks, but if we can game plan to attack the middle of the field off play action he can have success. Allen showed today he's not ready. The Bengals dialed up some pressure and he couldn't handle it. He didn't anticipate pressure, he patted the ball and took sacks when he could have harmlessly dumped it incomplete and put the offense in unmanageable 3rd and long situations. He needs to learn a lot about how to take what the defense gives him and avoid sacks at all costs because they're such drive killers. You are correct in your conclusion but the brain trust at one bills drive already knew that as well. Thank you for your well thought out commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Ironically, although he knew before he waited until after to drop this on us. Can you tell us yesterdays future tomorrow?? 33 minutes ago, The Final Word said: Not true. Peterman was going to start game one period. They just wanted to give Allen an opportunity to see what a starting week looks and feels like in the preseason. McDermott has a plan and he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Since we were playing on Sunday, he didn’t want to give th e ravens anymore time to prepare for peterman. Very smart Coach McD here... Please get out of my head. I cant have you on here exposing all my secrets. They are mine, and they come from my head. Please stop reading my mind!!! -Coach McD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 If Peterman is the best choice, 1-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Peterman has been great all preseason. He's in control of the offense, knows to take what the defense gives him to keep the down and distance manageable, he's accurate, and the ball comes out on time. His arm is obviously lacking when he throws outside the hash marks, but if we can game plan to attack the middle of the field off play action he can have success. Allen showed today he's not ready. The Bengals dialed up some pressure and he couldn't handle it. He didn't anticipate pressure, he patted the ball and took sacks when he could have harmlessly dumped it incomplete and put the offense in unmanageable 3rd and long situations. He needs to learn a lot about how to take what the defense gives him and avoid sacks at all costs because they're such drive killers. You can’t throw the ball away when you’re still in the pocket and your center is pushed into your face. That being said maybe if some of his early passes would have been caught maybe he wouldn’t have melted down. Peterman probably wouldn’t have faired much better, defenders are going to sit on his receivers, take his short game away. if the line doesn’t get straightened out, there is serious trouble ahead... Edited August 27, 2018 by Fred Clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 If fans are still so delusional to think that Allen is ready to start after what we've seen with our O-line this preseason, they deserve the massive letdowns to come this season. I can easily see dozens of threads each week of fans whining about firing the HC or OC, or retroactively getting pissy about us not replacing our losses on the O-line, even though all off season they begged for Allen to start & made excuses as to why we'll repeat going to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, BigDingus said: If fans are still so delusional to think that Allen is ready to start after what we've seen with our O-line this preseason, they deserve the massive letdowns to come this season. I can easily see dozens of threads each week of fans whining about firing the HC or OC, or retroactively getting pissy about us not replacing our losses on the O-line, even though all off season they begged for Allen to start & made excuses as to why we'll repeat going to the playoffs. Hes not. I’ve got news for you, Peterman is worse. He panics under duress. If he started tonight it would’ve been San Diego 2.0. trading Tyrod was dumb. Thid is going to be a a tough season unless the brass gets a decent guy in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, MarkAF43 said: Oh good lord. Not another one of these "I already know this" people. Well, not "another one" exactly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 After a good night sleep, hopefully we have all regrouped and are able to look at the situation more rationally today. We are still not a very good football team yet. Our brain trust is truly one of the best in the league and they have a plan for the future. Making the playoffs was awesome but unfortunately for most on this board it has set an unrealistic but predictable expectations for the fan base. We all need to be patience. We are not going to the playoffs this year but we begin making progress of becoming a perennial playoff team. Our plan is simple, let Josh sit for five or six games which will get us past the rough part of the schedule. We will probably be 1-5 and then we will begin to salt josh into the line-up. This will give peterman some playing time, we see him as a frank Reich type player, you need a solid back- up and then Josh will take the wheel and this is the final word faithfully reporting the truth with perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 hours ago, The Final Word said: I realize it is not the proper protocol to start a new thread during a game but I felt compelled to start this thread to ensure those Bills fans suffering from Allen fatigue and calling Beane an idiot for drafting Allen. Allen is the quarterback of the future period. If you recall, he was number one on our draft board for months prior to the draft. He possesses all of the tangibles but requires additional work with his footwork. Will be corrected this year. Although Josh started today’s games which traditionally means he would be starting the first game. Many novices would obviously jump to this conclusion and it most cases would be warranted but not in this case. Those close to the happenings at obd though realize the rationale for McDermott decision for today’s game. The plan was and still is not to start Allen at quarterback day 1. I knew before the start of action today, Peterman will be our starting quarterback for the first game and THAT IS THE FINAL WORD. PS I will try to provide the site with expert clarifications and happenings as the season progresses then don't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 12 hours ago, The Final Word said: Didn’t say he was. Missed typed 'Mistyped'. Expert opinions from experts / insiders are generally received better if professionally presented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, The Final Word said: I realize it is not the proper protocol to start a new thread during a game but I felt compelled to start this thread to ensure those Bills fans suffering from Allen fatigue and calling Beane an idiot for drafting Allen. Allen is the quarterback of the future period. If you recall, he was number one on our draft board for months prior to the draft. He possesses all of the tangibles but requires additional work with his footwork. Will be corrected this year. Although Josh started today’s games which traditionally means he would be starting the first game. Many novices would obviously jump to this conclusion and it most cases would be warranted but not in this case. Those close to the happenings at obd though realize the rationale for McDermott decision for today’s game. The plan was and still is not to start Allen at quarterback day 1. I knew before the start of action today, Peterman will be our starting quarterback for the first game and THAT IS THE FINAL WORD. PS I will try to provide the site with expert clarifications and happenings as the season progresses ? hi Dick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 hours ago, TPS said: He's the only one to play well with the ones, twos, and threes. It's going to be difficult for McD to go with anyone else at this point. ....which is one of the things that stands out...to me at least is that he elevates the play of those around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, not "another one" exactly If you know it's the same old troll, why do you allow him to continue? Asking for a friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, The Final Word said: One must be able to read between the tea leaves and connect the variety of data points. Peterman starts, 13 hours ago, The Final Word said: Didn’t say he was. Missed typed 13 hours ago, MarkAF43 said: O'Leary isn't eligible for the PS. Nice try though. Keep reading those tea leaves Don. Well, Don/Chad/Final Word... You didn't even make it a full page before being exposed this time. You won't be getting another 100 page thread full of pretend insider info. That is my prediction. At least it was entertaining the first time, this is just a poor attempt. It's pretty sad, man. Maybe hit up another board that isn't privy to your shenanigans and haberdashery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 15 hours ago, The Final Word said: One must be able to read between the tea leaves and connect the variety of data points. Peterman starts, You missed your calling, you should be an NFL Front Office somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 14 hours ago, jrober38 said: . Allen showed today he's not ready. The Bengals dialed up some pressure and he couldn't handle it. He didn't anticipate pressure, he patted the ball and took sacks when he could have harmlessly dumped it incomplete and put the offense in unmanageable 3rd and long situations. He needs to learn a lot about how to take what the defense gives him and avoid sacks at all costs because they're such drive killers. None of this is true. The sacks were jail breaks. Otherwise, he was stepping into the few pockets he was given and running away when he had to, which was often. Peterman always looks good against all teams' 2s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: None of this is true. The sacks were jail breaks. Otherwise, he was stepping into the few pockets he was given and running away when he had to, which was often. Peterman always looks good against all teams' 2s... This isn't true. The All 22 will tell a very different story of him patting the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: None of this is true. The sacks were jail breaks. Otherwise, he was stepping into the few pockets he was given and running away when he had to, which was often. Peterman always looks good against all teams' 2s... Peterman looked good in preseason and Josh Allen didn't look as good. Dismiss the one and excuse the other if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'd like the input of someone in the sideline seats at the game yesterday. Were there open receivers being missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Word Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I am still a huge believer in Josh Allen but he has away to come. An announcement will soon becoming out that Peterman will be the starting quarterback against the Ravens. What I find interesting is the fact McDermott would love to start AJ. We will need to watch AJ health very closely and read between the lines that if AJ can go don’t be surprised if he gets the nod. There are so many data points to connect but this is what is so intriguing about this ime of the year. Also, please keep and eye on the starting cb spot. Won’t be surprised if Davis is unseated. He didn’t play well and word coming out of obd is that he is not doing well in practice. This is a situation that is somewhat concerning since we have not had a push up front. We have not used a bunch of stunts on defensive in the preseason but I don’t think he makes it. Might have a surprise cut at tight end and receiver. We will be watching the waiver wire very closely for depth on the offensive line. We do not need any more retreads from Oakland. on the Mack rumor front, we need to stay clear from that potential disaster. Yes, Beane did inquire about the potential trade but the asking price is way too much for us. I know the fan base wants this but doesn’t make sense for us. Mack is 27 and in his prime so his window is about 3 more years and would be a good fit for a win now team. We are not that team. We would mortgage our future for an outstanding player on a mediocre team. This is not going to happen so we can stop discussing. Hoepfully this has has provided more clarity on Buffalo Rumblings and this is the final word Just in. Phillips Gaines starting a cb for now Edited August 27, 2018 by The Final Word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Final Word said: I am still a huge believer in Josh Allen but he has away to come. An announcement will soon becoming out that Peterman will be the starting quarterback against the Ravens. What I find interesting is the fact McDermott would love to start AJ. We will need to watch AJ health very closely and read between the lines that if AJ can go don’t be surprised if he gets the nod. There are so many data points to connect but this is what is so intriguing about this ime of the year. Also, please keep and eye on the starting cb spot. Won’t be surprised if Davis is unseated. He didn’t play well and word coming out of obd is that he is not doing well in practice. This is a situation that is somewhat concerning since we have not had a push up front. We have not used a bunch of stunts on defensive in the preseason but I don’t think he makes it. Might have a surprise cut at tight end and receiver. We will be watching the waiver wire very closely for depth on the offensive line. We do not need any more retreads from Oakland. on the Mack rumor front, we need to stay clear from that potential disaster. Yes, Beane did inquire about the potential trade but the asking price is way too much for us. I know the fan base wants this but doesn’t make sense for us. Mack is 27 and in his prime so his window is about 3 more years and would be a good fit for a win now team. We are not that team. We would mortgage our future for an outstanding player on a mediocre team. This is not going to happen so we can stop discussing. Hoepfully this has has provided more clarity on Buffalo Rumblings and this is the final word Just in. Phillips Gaines starting a cb for now Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 If Peterman doesn’t start then we didn’t have a competition. If it was a battle, he won and it wasn’t close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, jrober38 said: This isn't true. The All 22 will tell a very different story of him patting the ball. The only balls being patted are those of Peterman..... 33 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Peterman doesn’t start then we didn’t have a competition. If it was a battle, he won and it wasn’t close. Except Peterman was fighting the cooks, motor pool mechanics and quartermasters. 2 hours ago, Lfod said: Peterman looked good in preseason and Josh Allen didn't look as good. Dismiss the one and excuse the other if it makes you feel better. Start Peterman yesterday and we all know how it would have ended for his preseason star turn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If Peterman doesn’t start then we didn’t have a competition. If it was a battle, he won and it wasn’t close. Problem with the parts we see is the drop off from the ones to the twos. I think I’ve finally seen up close enough to know that doing well against twos is almost meaningless. Same for Allen. Looks good v 2s and 3s. 1s are just a different ball game. I really dont don’t know what we know at this point. May as well rotate them through in regular season to see what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The only balls being patted are those of Peterman..... Except Peterman was fighting the cooks, motor pool mechanics and quartermasters. Start Peterman yesterday and we all know how it would have ended for his preseason star turn... Only 1 qb moved the ball against 1s in the entire preseason. Bottom line, Peterman moved it and scored against everyone he faced. Which included 1s in week 1. 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Problem with the parts we see is the drop off from the ones to the twos. I think I’ve finally seen up close enough to know that doing well against twos is almost meaningless. Same for Allen. Looks good v 2s and 3s. 1s are just a different ball game. I really dont don’t know what we know at this point. May as well rotate them through in regular season to see what we have. Good, then start the only qb that played good against 1s. And it was still the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Only 1 qb moved the ball against 1s in the entire preseason. Bottom line, Peterman moved it and scored against everyone he faced. Which included 1s in week 1. Good, then start the only qb that played good against 1s. And it was still the same guy. Sure, ok. Let’s get this trainwreck started. Take ravens defense for fantasy football week 1 Edited August 27, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Only 1 qb moved the ball against 1s in the entire preseason. Bottom line, Peterman moved it and scored against everyone he faced. Which included 1s in week 1. Good, then start the only qb that played good against 1s. And it was still the same guy. He played 2 series in week 1 of preseason. He threw a TD...and a pick. Against 1's. Does anyone pushing for Peterman as the week 1 starter think he would have done better in yesterday's than Allen against Cincy' varsity squad? Why would anyone think that? What leads you to conclude that he can suddenly withstand a relentless withering pass rush? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Post the third preseason game, it's pretty reasonable to argue that Peterman will be the starter at Baltimore. That would be my prediction as well. I'm not so arrogant as to argue that it is anything more than an opinion though. The know-it-all arrogance of some posters seems to know no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He played 2 series in week 1 of preseason. He threw a TD...and a pick. Against 1's. Does anyone pushing for Peterman as the week 1 starter think he would have done better in yesterday's than Allen against Cincy' varsity squad? Why would anyone think that? What leads you to conclude that he can suddenly withstand a relentless withering pass rush? Yes I do. Without question would have done better. Peterman gets the ball out quick and reads the pre snap better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Yes I do. Without question would have done better. Peterman gets the ball out quick and reads the pre snap better. Based on a single series against a 1st team defense in week 1 of preseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Always. Except when it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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