Gugny Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Darnold looks really good. Edited August 17, 2018 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Yes, the drought is over 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I'll preface with this .... I still consider the Mets to be a team with zero no hitters in its history. Why? Because in 2012, when Santana was vying for the 1st no-no in franchise history, Carlos Beltran got a base hit that was a) obvious and b) erroneously ruled foul. On paper, it's a no-hitter. In reality, it is not. And I'm a Mets fan. This brings me to the Bills' playoff drought. Did the Bills really "make" the playoffs? The Bills' regular season was over after the Dolphins game. The Bills didn't do enough to make the playoffs. The Bengals did enough for the Bills to make the playoffs. That is the reality. And yes ... I feel the same way about the (7-9) Seattle team (even though they actually won a playoff game). I'm torn. Part of me says, "Yes, the drought is over." But part of me says, "It's not over until the Bills make the playoffs without having to back in." It is like banging the fat girl, after a 17year dry spell. Yeah, it is over, but I'd keep that to myself. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll preface with this .... I still consider the Mets to be a team with zero no hitters in its history. Why? Because in 2012, when Santana was vying for the 1st no-no in franchise history, Carlos Beltran got a base hit that was a) obvious and b) erroneously ruled foul. On paper, it's a no-hitter. In reality, it is not. And I'm a Mets fan. This brings me to the Bills' playoff drought. Did the Bills really "make" the playoffs? The Bills' regular season was over after the Dolphins game. The Bills didn't do enough to make the playoffs. The Bengals did enough for the Bills to make the playoffs. That is the reality. And yes ... I feel the same way about the (7-9) Seattle team (even though they actually won a playoff game). I'm torn. Part of me says, "Yes, the drought is over." But part of me says, "It's not over until the Bills make the playoffs without having to back in." Yes, they played the Jaguars and lost 10-3. They didn't back in. They finished 9-7 and qualified as a wild card based on NFL rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Confirmation that it's over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, nucci said: Yes, they played the Jaguars and lost 10-3. They didn't back in. They finished 9-7 and qualified as a wild card based on NFL rules Watching the end of another game after your season is over, hoping a team loses so you can "get into" the playoffs is the textbook definition of backing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 So, with your logic, I guess Armando Galarraga really did throw a perfect game then, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: Watching the end of another game after your season is over, hoping a team loses so you can "get into" the playoffs is the textbook definition of backing in. Look at it how you want. The Bills played in the playoffs last year. That's all that matters..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, nucci said: Look at it how you want. The Bills played in the playoffs last year. That's all that matters..... Sometimes I agree with this. Like I said ... I'm torn! 1 minute ago, Mark80 said: So, with your logic, I guess Armando Galarraga really did throw a perfect game then, huh? Dude ... that was heartbreaking. But no, it doesn't go both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Sometimes I agree with this. Like I said ... I'm torn! Don't be...it'll drive you nuts...just enjoy it...I think they make the playoffs again. They are not as bad as most seem to think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 It wasn't the first time a team got help and "backed in" to the playoffs...step one is to put yourself in the position to even be able to get in with some help. The Bills did that much last year. Didn't the Giants "back in" when they beat the **Pats in the Super Bowl??? Sure, the Bills had some luck (for once). That shouldn't take away from what they did do, what they could control. Sometimes its better to be lucky, than good. The drought is over. Regardless of how it happened, embrace it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll preface with this .... I still consider the Mets to be a team with zero no hitters in its history. Why? Because in 2012, when Santana was vying for the 1st no-no in franchise history, Carlos Beltran got a base hit that was a) obvious and b) erroneously ruled foul. On paper, it's a no-hitter. In reality, it is not. And I'm a Mets fan. This brings me to the Bills' playoff drought. Did the Bills really "make" the playoffs? The Bills' regular season was over after the Dolphins game. The Bills didn't do enough to make the playoffs. The Bengals did enough for the Bills to make the playoffs. That is the reality. And yes ... I feel the same way about the (7-9) Seattle team (even though they actually won a playoff game). I'm torn. Part of me says, "Yes, the drought is over." But part of me says, "It's not over until the Bills make the playoffs without having to back in." We'll, nothing says it can't start over.. but yes by definition. To your point though, I think so. Even if we miss this year, I think McBeane can sail this ship. (I loved embedded!) That backed in stuff is kind of a cop out to me. Edited August 17, 2018 by JaxBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I see the argument the OP is making. On one hand, officially, the drought is over. On the other hand, it would be nice to see them decisively get into the playoffs without help. As to the former, that was probably the best case scenario for last years team, so they out performed IMO. As to the later, I don't expect to see that until next season. If the Bills get into the playoffs this year, I suspect it will be similar to what we saw seven months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: It wasn't the first time a team got help and "backed in" to the playoffs...step one is to put yourself in the position to even be able to get in with some help. The Bills did that much last year. Didn't the Giants "back in" when they beat the **Pats in the Super Bowl??? Sure, the Bills had some luck (for once). That shouldn't take away from what they did do, what they could control. Sometimes its better to be lucky, than good. The drought is over. Regardless of how it happened, embrace it. in sports you always need some luck to win a championship... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 The playoff drought is over, but the drought for not winning a playoff game continues....and lets not even talk about the drought for a SuperBowl Championship... Hopefully that one ends soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I think that there is universal agreement on this topic. The Bills were pulled into the playoffs by Cincy. When have you ever seen such an outpouring of $$$ from one fan base to a player on an opposing team. That was our way of saying “thank you” to Cincy for getting us in the playoffs. I’m extremely happy with the progress that the team made last season, please don’t misread me, but, we needed more than a little help to get to that playoff game. The drought will officially be over when the Bills warm their way into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 smh. The Bills earned the 6th spot all damn season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 It is an acceptable and oft used way to make the playoffs. We’ve had a number of 9-7 & 8-8 years since the Music City Debacle that could have turned out better for us from a League perspective. If it did, would you be questioning that we ‘by rights’ shouldnt have been in those playoffs as well? What if we won the SB from a last minute of the last game invite due to another teams misfortune? Would you taint that as well? End story: we did our part and waited on other Game results to see if it was enough. Happens nearly every year. This time it was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: I think that there is universal agreement on this topic. The Bills were pulled into the playoffs by Cincy. When have you ever seen such an outpouring of $$$ from one fan base to a player on an opposing team. That was our way of saying “thank you” to Cincy for getting us in the playoffs. I’m extremely happy with the progress that the team made last season, please don’t misread me, but, we needed more than a little help to get to that playoff game. The drought will officially be over when the Bills warm their way into the playoffs. Every year someone gets in because someone else loses. That's why they play the games. It's such an odd concept to me. We had to win our share too. It's almost self loathing,lol? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JaxBills said: Every year someone gets in because someone else loses. That's why they play the games. It's such an odd concept to me. We had to win our share too. It's almost self loathing,lol? It's Buffalo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Yes it's over. The Ravens needed to win to get in ahead of us and they didn't. Therefore the Bills were ahead of them meaning the Bills did enough to get in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, nucci said: It's Buffalo But apparently it's not a universal agreement on the matter though. So that's good. Edited August 17, 2018 by JaxBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, JaxBills said: Every year someone gets in because someone else loses. That's why they play the games. It's such an odd concept to me. We had to win our share too. It's almost self loathing,lol? I prefer to call it having high standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Boy, this is a really, really stupid topic. The playoff drought is over because the Bills were in the playoffs last year. It's not figure skating. There aren't style points. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 If you claim the drought isn't over, how do you define droughf? Bills played a 17th game. Was called a playoff game, is on record as a playoff game. ...some people are never happy... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I prefer to call it having high standards. ?? Edited August 17, 2018 by JaxBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 Going back to when Seattle backed in with a losing record: the win against New Orleans should have never happened, which was proven in their next game. That said ... I'm almost glad the Bills didn't beat the Jaguars. It would have been a hollow win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Going back to when Seattle backed in with a losing record: the win against New Orleans should have never happened, which was proven in their next game. That said ... I'm almost glad the Bills didn't beat the Jaguars. It would have been a hollow win. You know, we're not going to come to an agreement on this. Edited August 17, 2018 by JaxBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 IMHO ….. I don't consider the drought as over. We haven't played our way into the playoffs, we needed help. HOWEVER, the clock has been reset, we Bills fans no longer have to suffer the "experts" pointing out that it's been 17 years since we've appeared in a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Going back to when Seattle backed in with a losing record: the win against New Orleans should have never happened, which was proven in their next game. That said ... I'm almost glad the Bills didn't beat the Jaguars. It would have been a hollow win. Oh come on....Surely you can't be serious...so if we won the Superbowl last year , it wouldn't have mattered because you thought we backed in? A win is a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Going back to when Seattle backed in with a losing record: the win against New Orleans should have never happened, which was proven in their next game. That said ... I'm almost glad the Bills didn't beat the Jaguars. It would have been a hollow win. Why? It just means the Bills would have gone back to NE, and lost there. We're used to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, nucci said: Oh come on....Surely you can't be serious...so if we won the Superbowl last year , it wouldn't have mattered because you thought we backed in? A win is a win That is self loathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Overthinking it. Yes, the drought is over, but I agree nobody should be satisfied. I certainly don’t see McBeane as people happy with a single playoff appearance, so I’m confident they’ll continue to strive for a championship. Edited August 17, 2018 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll preface with this .... I still consider the Mets to be a team with zero no hitters in its history. Why? Because in 2012, when Santana was vying for the 1st no-no in franchise history, Carlos Beltran got a base hit that was a) obvious and b) erroneously ruled foul. On paper, it's a no-hitter. In reality, it is not. And I'm a Mets fan. This brings me to the Bills' playoff drought. Did the Bills really "make" the playoffs? The Bills' regular season was over after the Dolphins game. The Bills didn't do enough to make the playoffs. The Bengals did enough for the Bills to make the playoffs. That is the reality. And yes ... I feel the same way about the (7-9) Seattle team (even though they actually won a playoff game). I'm torn. Part of me says, "Yes, the drought is over." But part of me says, "It's not over until the Bills make the playoffs without having to back in." The Bills finally played a game in January The drought is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll preface with this .... I still consider the Mets to be a team with zero no hitters in its history. Why? Because in 2012, when Santana was vying for the 1st no-no in franchise history, Carlos Beltran got a base hit that was a) obvious and b) erroneously ruled foul. On paper, it's a no-hitter. In reality, it is not. And I'm a Mets fan. This brings me to the Bills' playoff drought. Did the Bills really "make" the playoffs? The Bills' regular season was over after the Dolphins game. The Bills didn't do enough to make the playoffs. The Bengals did enough for the Bills to make the playoffs. That is the reality. And yes ... I feel the same way about the (7-9) Seattle team (even though they actually won a playoff game). I'm torn. Part of me says, "Yes, the drought is over." But part of me says, "It's not over until the Bills make the playoffs without having to back in." The Bills played a game in the Wild Card round of the playoffs, that counts wither or not they "backed in" is completely irrelevant. If you personally don't want to count it then whatever but that is irrelevant to wither or not it actually counts in the records of the NFL. I also would counter your Mets point by saying that RA Dickey should have had a no-hitter because the one hit he allowed in 9 innings should have been ruled an error. Edited August 17, 2018 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaxBills said: You know, we're not going to come to an agreement on this. We might if we continue to have a rational discussion about it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Fact check: http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=400999176 Yup, it's over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 What if the games were played in reverse order, or if our game took a little longer and we won AFTER the Bengals game? Then would the drought be over? Do you just want a win and youre in scenario? Because you seem to be placing a lot of weight on the fact that the Bengals went longer than ours did, which seems dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: We might if we continue to have a rational discussion about it! My friend, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 The better question is does this thread really exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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