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Never heard or seen this until reading this article. 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/07/buffalo_bills_hof_rb_thurman_thomas_played_entire_career_with_partially_torn_acl.html

 

Just truly insane how good he was. 

 

"Some news that Thomas shared on social media recently should have fans even more impressed with his career. It turns out that Thomas played his entire career on a partially torn ACL.

 

When a fan asked how long Thomas played with the torn ACL, Thomas responded by saying he played the rest of his career with the injury. He'd later add that his ACL was about 85 percent torn."

 

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Pretty amazing.  I can certainly believe the entire career with a partially torn ACL but I cant believe it was 85% torn that entire time.  He always was more of a straight ahead runner.

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3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Pretty amazing.  I can certainly believe the entire career with a partially torn ACL but I cant believe it was 85% torn that entire time.  He always was more of a straight ahead runner.

His career would be top10 all time to GODLIKE.

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Having lived with a partially torn ACL for several years (before completely tearing it away) I would just comment that so long as what remains is structurally holding things in place, it doesn't really affect you. Also, some people can live normal, active lives (like downhill skiing active) with no ACL anymore, just because of how they are built. 

So I don't really know what to make of the 85% torn claim as it relates to what his performance would have otherwise been if not torn at all. It strikes me that it might not have been any different. 

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30 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Pretty amazing.  I can certainly believe the entire career with a partially torn ACL but I cant believe it was 85% torn that entire time.  He always was more of a straight ahead runner.

 

Ummm... I'm not sure I would ever characterize him that way. 

 

He wasn't Earl Campbell or OJ Simpson and straight-ahead was absolutely not the way he got the majority of those tough extra yards.

 

Not all the way on the other end of the spectrum like a Barry Sanders, but you get the point.

 

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Kinda hard to believe. Thurman may not have been a juke you out your shoes RB but to accept that he played his entire HOF career taking the pounding RBs of that era had to absorb feels like a bit of a stretch.

 

I love the guy but c'mon man.

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Looks like all the other teams that didn't draft him because of concerns his knee didn't heal completely after his college injury were correct.  Who'd've thunk it?

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The amazing thing is he kept Barry Sanders on the bench in ‘87.

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1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

The amazing thing is he kept Barry Sanders on the bench in ‘87.

What a backfield that was. 85% torn ACL would've benched him for a whole season in modern times. That whole team was a bunch of tough SOB's! Shame they couldn't get at least one of those SB rings

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55 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

His career would be top10 all time to GODLIKE.

I love Thurman..he had many unique qualities and was a great RB. But not top 10.Come on man.

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old news... there are a number of nfl players that played without acl including thurm

 

 

Elway

Hienz Ward 

Joe Namath 

logan Mankins

drew Stanton 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Tcali said:

I love Thurman..he had many unique qualities and was a great RB. But not top 10.Come on man.

You can make the argument. Thurman along with Roger Craig were kinda the first dual threat RBs before it became commonplace in the NFL. Top 10, maybe not. But, Top 10 dual threat RBs of all time? Definitely! 

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57 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Having lived with a partially torn ACL for several years (before completely tearing it away) I would just comment that so long as what remains is structurally holding things in place, it doesn't really affect you. Also, some people can live normal, active lives (like downhill skiing active) with no ACL anymore, just because of how they are built. 

So I don't really know what to make of the 85% torn claim as it relates to what his performance would have otherwise been if not torn at all. It strikes me that it might not have been any different. 

This is more or less what I was thinking.

 

I.E., the percentage is not relevant.  What is relevant is your knee either working correctly, or not.  Whatever he had going on in there was obviously working.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

You can make the argument. Thurman along with Roger Craig were kinda the first dual threat RBs before it became commonplace in the NFL. Top 10, maybe not. But, Top 10 dual threat RBs of all time? Definitely! 

Marcus Allen also became that later in his career too.

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I think 85% of the time, Thurman is 50% correct...

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It's hard to evaluate TT accurately because he played on such great offensive teams.  They were great in part because of him, but they had everything particularly a great O line.  I saw a feature online recently showing all of his TDs in a particular year.  In most of them he had to be elusive but not insanely so -- he'd put a little head bob or a half step sideways or delay a beat, and he'd get the opening he needed.  This is not a criticism in fact it's high praise for a guy who had such a great feel for the game.  But, without that great O line and the passing game at the same time, it's easy to see how a defense could have taken him out of the game.  OJ, on the other hand, excelled even though everyone knew the Bills were going to run -- of course he had a great O line too.  I've always thought OJ was the best Bill of all time, and was the best runner of a long list of great RBs.  With Cookie #2, TT #3, Shady #4, and a bunch of other guys who were all really good making up the rest of the top 10.

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Look up in the sky, its a bird, its a plane      😱      NO ITS THE THURMONATOR !!!!!    

 

Faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive , Able to leap defenders with a single bound & juke them out of their shorts with a torn ACL !! 

 

WOW ! Now that just adds to his legacy !! 

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"Thomas told the fan that it was actually a brace that he wore after tearing his ACL in 1986. The back would undergo an arthroscopic procedure that year, but avoided major knee surgery. Thomas said he wore the brace as a way to avoid having major surgery and missing time. "

 

He also claims it was "85% torn" and that he only had it scoped.

 

If it was 85% then he certainly finished off the tear sometime that year or early on in the NFL.

That's just a medical fact, it would have finished off.

 

Playing without an ACL is very possible, and over strengthening the surrounding muscles (namely the hams, gastroc, and imo) can make up for that lack of ligament stability, the issue is it presents a huge risk when your muscles are fatigued to the other structures (PCL, MCL, LCL, popliteal muscle, meniscus primarily).

 

His way of describing it just sounds like Uncle Rico throwing a pigskin a quarter mile.

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2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Having lived with a partially torn ACL for several years (before completely tearing it away) I would just comment that so long as what remains is structurally holding things in place, it doesn't really affect you. Also, some people can live normal, active lives (like downhill skiing active) with no ACL anymore, just because of how they are built. 

So I don't really know what to make of the 85% torn claim as it relates to what his performance would have otherwise been if not torn at all. It strikes me that it might not have been any different. 

 

This is true.

 

I haven’t had an ACL in my right knee since 1987.

 

I am still an active person. Obviously not on a professional athlete’s scale but, none the less, I have been very active for the past 31 years with no side effects.

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5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

This is true.

 

I haven’t had an ACL in my right knee since 1987.

 

I am still an active person. Obviously not on a professional athlete’s scale but, none the less, I have been very active for the past 31 years with no side effects.

 

The physical therapist who treated my son after his torn ACL/MCL had no ACL’s. Played OLine for UCF back in the day. AMAZING therapist. Still very active with mountain biking and certain other activities. 

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12 hours ago, T master said:

Look up in the sky, its a bird, its a plane      😱      NO ITS THE THURMONATOR !!!!!    

 

Faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive , Able to leap defenders with a single bound & juke them out of their shorts with a torn ACL !! 

 

WOW ! Now that just adds to his legacy !! 

So.....that's how he found his helmet.....x-ray eyes seeing through sideline equipment zeroing in on his. Always wondered that. 

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He used to run up and down that field in the snow and uphill both ways!!

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