Bfanlc Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 So dt went to 9 pro bowls in his first 9 seasons. Had that ever been done before? And not that good of a lb?
RocCityRoller Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bfanlc said: Don't let the chief's hate blind you guys. Dt was one of the greatest lbs of all time. Had he lived longer his records would be astronomical. I don't think it's 'Chiefs Hate' and RIP DT, but he was marginal against the run. I don't recall him dropping back against the pass much. His 1 INT in 11 seasons would help back this up. He did force 40 or so fumbles, but I think a lot of those were sack fumbles, not sure. Lastly DT did play 11 seasons, not sure how many seasons he had left. A fine pass rusher, one of the best pass rushing LBs this side of Lawrence Taylor, but LT was pretty nasty against the run too. DT's FF and FR count add to his legacy, and he deserves a place on this list. Biscuit deserves to be noted among the best too. He was above average at everything, but never stood out at any one thing, which is why I don't think he is in the HOF. Biscuits numbers were never eye opening, but his big plays almost always came at critical times. Ray Lewis is top 3-5 IMO. Edited May 26, 2018 by RocCityRoller
NewEra Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Not to mention that the #1 LB was playing high on cocaine his entire career
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Not the first time I’ve heard Ray Lewis and crime mentioned in the same sentence ? Come on. It was only circumstantial evidence, fortunately for Lewis.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 If Ray Lewis, Singletary and Urlacher aren’t in the top 10 for greatest LB’s that’s not right. I will give that some of the older guys belong In there. I’ve been watching football for 30 years at a high level. Those three LB’s are Amazing.
Doc Brown Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: He was taken off the field in the AFC Championship game because he was getting trucked play after play... Agreed. He's still top 10, but he wasn't good enough against the run to be considered #2 of all time.
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Ifartalot said: Don't care about rankings. Just know watching the Bills trio of Mike Stratton, Harry Jacobs and John Tracey were the 1st great ones I saw growing up. With a name like “Ifartalot” I envisioned you to be much younger...
BobDVA Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Stratton, Jacobs, and Tracy were my childhood idols. Holy crap; I'm old' get out of my yard.
Chandler#81 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 FWIW, -which is nothing, I’ve contended Biscuit is HOF worthy since his playing days. IMO, he checks all the boxes required. Multiple PB’s, consistent excellence through a long career, 6 Conference Championship Games, 5 Super Bowls and changed the game from LOLB position. Hated when he went to Atlanta. I feel like he fell off the face of the earth with that move, though he continued to perform at a very high level. 1 1
machine gun kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 It’s cool we had two with Spielman as the other, and no Bennett is not in the HOF, but I hope he gets in someday. Honorable mention to Bryce Paup. 1
joevan Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 No Mike Curtis? He was the nastiest guy not named Butkis. Worthy alone for his shot on a fan running around back in the early 1970's. 1
TC in St. Louis Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 I had to look that up....he's not in the Hall of Fame, but he is in the college football hall of fame. I still get upset when I think about him leaving us for the Falcons, after saying he wasn't' leaving. I remember calling him Cornelius Benedict Arnold.
ehfeuh57 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 5:54 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Derrick Thomas at #2 isn’t a stretch IMO... Ray Lewis and LT have to be top 2 given this, yes it is a stretch
Bing Bong Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 6:15 PM, 3rdand12 said: how do you guys remember all this stuff ? I hardly recall last year. and i don't just mean the Bills season ! I didn't drink as much back then 1
flomoe Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 22. Cornelius Bennett Buffalo Bills, 1987-1995; Atlanta Falcons, 1996-1998; Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2000 » Voted to five Pro Bowls, First Team All-Pro once » Recorded 71.5 career sacks» Enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Man, I missed him being enshrined into the Hall of Fame. I checked out of the NFL for a while through the lean years of the Bills in the 2000’s-2017. Did he go in as a Colt or Falcon?
Maine-iac Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 Just my two cents but I'd take Willis, Lewis, or Urlacher over Derrick Thomas or Derrick Brooks on any day that ends in Y. I'm not trying to argue Darryl Talley onto that list but I think he was a very good LB and in many ways as valuable as Bennet ever was. PS with the love for pass rushers where is Kevin Greene? 1
Your Brown Eye Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 16 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s cool we had two with Spielman as the other, and no Bennett is not in the HOF, but I hope he gets in someday. Honorable mention to Bryce Paup. Fletcher is on that list, he was ran out of town for chiseled chin Poz
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 6:43 PM, frostbitmic said: IMO Chris Spielman should've been ranked higher than he was ... He spent a couple of years with the Bills ... Awesome player. I was just about to post this
Dadonkadonk Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 No way Bennett is 22. He was very good but I think Brandt somehow thinks he made it into HOF. He did not. I forgot how good Demarcus Ware was. I thought he was more DE than LB. But after reading about him he was really dominant at OLB for Dallas.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 Can't believe it's been 20 years since Spielman played doesn't seem that long ago. Ray Lewis should be number one, he was a much better overall LB than Taylor. On 5/25/2018 at 8:41 PM, Fadingpain said: Thomas was too much of a pass rushing specialist (and he was fantastic at that) to be regarded #2 best all around LB of all time! No, Biscuit (not "the" Biscuit) is not in the HOF. Agree Singletary should be way up there. Aside from being a great LB, the guy is the personification of "leader", "warrior", and "team before self". I dream of having a Bills roster filled with Singletary types. Hopefully Edmunds On 5/25/2018 at 11:56 PM, Seanbillsfan2206 said: With a name like “Ifartalot” I envisioned you to be much younger... Pull his finger. 5 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Just my two cents but I'd take Willis, Lewis, or Urlacher over Derrick Thomas or Derrick Brooks on any day that ends in Y. I'm not trying to argue Darryl Talley onto that list but I think he was a very good LB and in many ways as valuable as Bennet ever was. PS with the love for pass rushers where is Kevin Greene? he's on there top 15 I believe
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