Alphadawg7 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Big Curt said: Why are people talking about distractions? The Browns are 1-31 the past two seasons. They can't get any worse. Because for whatever reason people on this board have manufactured this false narrative that Hard Knocks is some how some massive distraction that hurts the team but really that's just a total myth. Its actually quite interesting to the degree its exaggerated here. Edited May 17, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, nedboy7 said: I doubt mayfield is that classless or tyrod is that horrible. Wrong and Wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It will be the Baker Mayfield show. He will make sure of that. You sound butthurt...must be an Ohio St. fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr_Robotulism said: You sound butthurt...must be an Ohio St. fan I actually like Baker Mayfield ?. I was referring to the fact he already has his own reality show called “Beyond Baker.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) I don't like how one of the candidates every year is going to be "forced" to do this - if all 32 teams would want privacy, I respect that and would tell HBO to **** off and cancel the series. Edited May 17, 2018 by JimKellyTryouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually like Baker Mayfield ?. I was referring to the fact he already has his own reality show called “Beyond Baker.” I don't even blame him...nobody has believed in him except himself for a big part of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnC Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Because for whatever reason people on this board have manufactured this false narrative that Hard Knocks is some how some massive distraction that hurts the team but really that's just a total myth. Its actually quite interesting to the degree its exaggerated here. Do you believe that McDermott would want to participate in such a fake reality show? Of course he and his staff would want no part of that foolishness. Few people would categorize it as a major distraction. That's your exaggerated characterization. The reality is that many if not most organizations don't want to participate in this silly charade. Participation is not voluntary---it is imposed by the league. This show is designed for self-promoters like Rex who relish acting before the cameras. It favors coaches who have a manufactured stage to showcase their schtick. It is not an activity that serious minded coaches and organizations want to be involved with. I'm not saying that the concept of Hard Knocks is a good thing or bad thing. However, I am saying that it is a stupid and inauthentic show that has no appeal to me or most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Cleveland is an obvious choice. Love the show; this season should be good. We'll also get to see some insight into Tyrod that maybe we haven't seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Do you believe that McDermott would want to participate in such a fake reality show? Of course he and his staff would want no part of that foolishness. Few people would categorize it as a major distraction. That's your exaggerated characterization. The reality is that many if not most organizations don't want to participate in this silly charade. Participation is not voluntary---it is imposed by the league. This show is designed for self-promoters like Rex who relish acting before the cameras. It favors coaches who have a manufactured stage to showcase their schtick. It is not an activity that serious minded coaches and organizations want to be involved with. I'm not saying that the concept of Hard Knocks is a good thing or bad thing. However, I am saying that it is a stupid and inauthentic show that has no appeal to me or most people. Except most of what you just said isnt true and are nothing more than your general "assumptions" and "opinions" of the show. I have close friends who make this show and can assure you just about everything you just said its totally false. And they are the assumptions of many, not just you. But the show is not a fake and scripted reality show like many others are. Its fine if you dont personally like it, just saying the argument you are making against isn't really very accurate. PS: A couple of those people I know on the show are also now working on one for College Basketball too. Can't disclose the team, but its a big one and will be out I think next year. Edited May 18, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Augie said: Hey! They won a game I n the last couple years! ? Will that be on ESPN or the Comedy Channel? Sorry, we’ve taken enough abuse over the years that sometimes I can’t help myself.... Lol, highest bidder baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Baker on hard knocks?!? YES What if.. what if.. just humor me.. Tyrod is really funny in hard knocks. I'd change my whole perception of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Except most of what you just said isnt true and are nothing more than your general "assumptions" and "opinions" of the show. I have close friends who make this show and can assure you just about everything you just said its totally false. And they are the assumptions of many, not just you. But the show is not a fake and scripted reality show like many others are. Its fine if you dont personally like it, just saying the argument you are making against isn't really very accurate. PS: A couple of those people I know on the show are also now working on one for College Basketball too. Can't disclose the team, but its a big one and will be out I think next year. If you believe that McDermott is interested in having his team showcased you are deluding yourself. If you believe that Belichick is interested in having the cameras intruding into his training camp then you are out of touch. If you find the Hard Knock experience entertaining then so be it. My point is that it doesn't do anything positive for the team that is being highlighted. You don't think that the cameras won't gravitate to a coach chewing out a player? Or the cameras focusing on a fight between players that get involved in a fight or skirmish? What does that accomplish for the team or players? The Bills have a lot of catching up to do to build a contending team. They still got a long way to go. Having the cameras rolling for public consumption is an unnecessary distraction for a team that doesn't need it. If the Bills, and most teams, exclude the press for much of the training camp then why would they voluntarily be receptive to a Hard Knock crew? The simple truth is that they are not interested in it. They are forced to do it. What does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 9:59 AM, Blokestradamus said: I'm setting the over/under for times that I swear at Hue Jackson at 1,000,000. Bet the over. I am guessing times Hue Jackson cares to be 0. Bet the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 20 hours ago, Mr_Robotulism said: You sound butthurt...must be an Ohio St. fan You sound like someone who LIKES to butthurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 hours ago, JohnC said: If you believe that McDermott is interested in having his team showcased you are deluding yourself. If you believe that Belichick is interested in having the cameras intruding into his training camp then you are out of touch. If you find the Hard Knock experience entertaining then so be it. My point is that it doesn't do anything positive for the team that is being highlighted. You don't think that the cameras won't gravitate to a coach chewing out a player? Or the cameras focusing on a fight between players that get involved in a fight or skirmish? What does that accomplish for the team or players? The Bills have a lot of catching up to do to build a contending team. They still got a long way to go. Having the cameras rolling for public consumption is an unnecessary distraction for a team that doesn't need it. If the Bills, and most teams, exclude the press for much of the training camp then why would they voluntarily be receptive to a Hard Knock crew? The simple truth is that they are not interested in it. They are forced to do it. What does that tell you? I don’t understand what you are talking about here. Nothing you are arguing is anything I have discussed? I haven’t mentioned one single word about the Bills or McD, so maybe you should go back and read what you are replying too because you’re discussing things with me that I have not once mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t understand what you are talking about here. Nothing you are arguing is anything I have discussed? I haven’t mentioned one single word about the Bills or McD, so maybe you should go back and read what you are replying too because you’re discussing things with me that I have not once mentioned. The point that you missed is obvious. Most teams have no interest in participating in this act because they see nothing positive coming from their participation. If you find these episodes entertaining or enlightening then watch the shows. I have no interest in them. It's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, JohnC said: The point that you missed is obvious. Most teams have no interest in participating in this act because they see nothing positive coming from their participation. If you find these episodes entertaining or enlightening then watch the shows. I have no interest in them. It's as simple as that. Except everything you think you know behind the scenes is wrong. So there’s that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Except everything you think you know behind the scenes is wrong. So there’s that too. ..if Hugh goes from 1-31 to 6-42, he definitely deserves COY......even Stormy Warren can't top those "hard knocks".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Except everything you think you know behind the scenes is wrong. So there’s that too. Again, you missed the point. I'm not interested what is in front or behind the scenes. If you enjoy the series enjoy it. I have no interest in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I think it will be entertaining, a lot of changes, new faces, pressure based off the last 2 years record, seeing the relationship between GM and coach will make for good TV. Plus we will see Tyrod behind the scenes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 11:05 AM, mileena said: Why does that loser Tyrod Taylor get to see all that fame? That is so negative. Smh. Anyways theres enough storylines for this to be the best season in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 9:35 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Except most of what you just said isnt true and are nothing more than your general "assumptions" and "opinions" of the show. I have close friends who make this show and can assure you just about everything you just said its totally false. And they are the assumptions of many, not just you. But the show is not a fake and scripted reality show like many others are. Its fine if you dont personally like it, just saying the argument you are making against isn't really very accurate. PS: A couple of those people I know on the show are also now working on one for College Basketball too. Can't disclose the team, but its a big one and will be out I think next year. Appreciate the insight. Can you ask your friends what percentage of the video shot ends up on the editing room floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, JohnC said: Again, you missed the point. I'm not interested what is in front or behind the scenes. If you enjoy the series enjoy it. I have no interest in it. Then could have just simply said that like 5 times now. But you didn’t, you spewed false facts and all this other stuff I wasn’t even discussing with you about McD, fake reality, other coaches, etc. Lmao. 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Appreciate the insight. Can you ask your friends what percentage of the video shot ends up on the editing room floor? A Lot, they shoot for a week and condense it down to one hour essentially. And there are multiple camera crews shooting all the time during that week. So it’s an immense amount of content. They probably have at least 50+ hours of footage they cut down to 1 hour each week. Edited May 19, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, FearLess Price said: That is so negative. Smh. Anyways theres enough storylines for this to be the best season in a while. ....sad isn't it?.......I wish the best for the kid in a new environment.....his heart and ethic are certainly in the game.....only tiny minded little excrements hope the kid fails in chasing his dream..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: A Lot, they shoot for a week and condense it down to one hour essentially. And there are multiple camera crews shooting all the time during that week. So it’s an immense amount of content. They probably have at least 50+ hours of footage they cut down to 1 hour each week. Thanks again. I was in the same ballpark as your estimates. I like the series for what it is; a surface level view of some of what goes on in a training camp. And while I realize it’s not “scripted” like other reality television, I am mindful that it is heavily shaped to support certain selected emerging narratives as they arise. It is also predetermined what players will be the initial focus and for good reason as that mirrors fan (audience) interest initially. As much as I enjoy it each season, I hope we are never the subject of it. It is a major distraction and the less of those a team has going into a season, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Then could have just simply said that like 5 times now. But you didn’t, you spewed false facts and all this other stuff I wasn’t even discussing with you about McD, fake reality, other coaches, etc. Lmao. I appreciate your classless response and how you amuse yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sad isn't it?.......I wish the best for the kid in a new environment.....his heart and ethic are certainly in the game.....only tiny minded little excrements hope the kid fails in chasing his dream..... Right. Never understood bashing old players when they left on good terms. Wish them the best until they play vs us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 This will hopefully put out the rest of that little kindle of fire that still burns on the board that Hue is remotely capable as a hc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 the perfect season parade from last year is worthy of a 30 for 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Cleveland browns will always be a garbage shoot. Hard knocks is proof of that, tv only wants garbage and drama. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I personally like this series and the one that was on amazon prime (forget the name). I feel theyre as real as a reality show gets on tv. A football team isnt going to manufacture drama for the sake of ratings. The browns dont care about the show’s ratings. Whatever drama is present will be real. When you put 100 men together in a high-stakes environment the drama comes naturally. Im rooting for the Browns to do well. Their fans have suffered enough. Let the elite of the AFC turnover for the next 15yrs from the Steelers and Pats to the Browns and Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Josh Gordon won't be there at the start of camp "treatment plans" and will be placed on the Browns NFI list. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000941508/article/browns-to-place-josh-gordon-on-nfi-list-before-camp Edited July 23, 2018 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 there were a bunch of tweets on July 18th by random twitter people that he failed a drug test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, jr1 said: there were a bunch of tweets on July 18th by random twitter people that he failed a drug test 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I hope it's not related to drugs. I want to see this kid succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Browns gonna Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 10:48 AM, K-9 said: Appreciate the insight. Can you ask your friends what percentage of the video shot ends up on the editing room floor? 99.72% The ratio of footage they keep is about 360:1, that is, it takes 6 hours of footage for every minute that airs. The average 5-week season approaches 2,000 hours shot. The logistics of it are impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, jr1 said: there were a bunch of tweets on July 18th by random twitter people that he failed a drug test I have a buddy who has some connections with the team and he texted me about a week ago asking if i heard about the drug test and prostitute. I thought it was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have a buddy who has some connections with the team and he texted me about a week ago asking if i heard about the drug test and prostitute. I thought it was a joke Well...there are a great many jokes that start out that way....nope sorry, they *start* with a Catholic priest and end with the drug test and prostitute...nope, that's a choir boy...never mind. I thought I had one.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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