oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 If we had had all these Internet "journalists" pontificating on QBs back then, can you imagine what would have been written. Here's a couple I thought about: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Fran Tarkenton: gimmick QB who will not survive his first big hit in the NFL, has to learn how to throw from the pocket if he wants to play in the league Feel free to add your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Get off my lawn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 O.J. Simpson - -Dangerously athletic, slashes his way through defenders, cuts on a dime. Murderer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Get off my lawn Well isn't this special? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 No way a goofy looking out of shape QB picked in the 6th round will amount to anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 if there was a forum like this 50 years ago I would say holy crap you just invented the internet congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Here are Bradshaw's career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD V Career 168 158 107-51-0 2025 3901 51.9 27989 212 5.4 210 5.4 90 7.2 5.8 13.8 166.6 70.9 307 2694 6.01 4.77 7.3 15 23 137 Other than the W-L record, his gold jacket today would be for Century 21, rather than Canton... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, kdiggz said: if there was a forum like this 50 years ago I would say holy crap you just invented the internet congratulations That was Al Gore, wasn't it? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Lurker said: Here are Bradshaw's career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD V Career 168 158 107-51-0 2025 3901 51.9 27989 212 5.4 210 5.4 90 7.2 5.8 13.8 166.6 70.9 307 2694 6.01 4.77 7.3 15 23 137 Other than the W-L record, his gold jacket today would be for Century 21, rather than Canton... 212/210 TD/INT ratio? 51 completion percentage? Yuck. Wouldn't last 2 years in today's NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lurker said: Here are Bradshaw's career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD V Career 168 158 107-51-0 2025 3901 51.9 27989 212 5.4 210 5.4 90 7.2 5.8 13.8 166.6 70.9 307 2694 6.01 4.77 7.3 15 23 137 Other than the W-L record, his gold jacket today would be for Century 21, rather than Canton... If you just looked at Namaths stats you would say no way is he HoF worthy... when you actually watched him you would realize he had the best pocket movement out of any QB of his era and the best deep ball... first QB to throw for over 4000 yards in a season ... he was definitely HoF worthy though people today say he isn't worth it... he changed the game Edited March 23, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If we had had all these Internet "journalists" pontificating on QBs back then, can you imagine what would have been written. Here's a couple I thought about: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Fran Tarkenton: gimmick QB who will not survive his first big hit in the NFL, has to learn how to throw from the pocket if he wants to play in the league Feel free to add your own 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: Here are Bradshaw's career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD V Career 168 158 107-51-0 2025 3901 51.9 27989 212 5.4 210 5.4 90 7.2 5.8 13.8 166.6 70.9 307 2694 6.01 4.77 7.3 15 23 137 Other than the W-L record, his gold jacket today would be for Century 21, rather than Canton... Bradshaw was a very average QB who benefited from a elite team around him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If we had had all these Internet "journalists" pontificating on QBs back then, can you imagine what would have been written. Here's a couple I thought about: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Fran Tarkenton: gimmick QB who will not survive his first big hit in the NFL, has to learn how to throw from the pocket if he wants to play in the league Feel free to add your own wondering how Kelly and teammates would have been treated on this board...Kelly was an ass when out drinking...saw him and others out many times ..Reed and Talley in bar fights on Elmwood....many using coke... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Bradshaw was a very average QB who benefited from a elite team around him, But a HOFer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Well isn't this special? As loath as I am to admit it, he has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 everybody would have been super angry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Come on. Have a little fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Come on. Have a little fun with it. didn't need the internet...many fans wanted Kelly benched in '89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Indy, I love ya, but take like a 4 or 5 week break from the board leading up to the draft. It's only going to get worse here in the next few weeks in terms of QB prospect talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Come on. Have a little fun with it. I'm too young for this but I imagine there wasn't much board presence in the 90s, Dan Marino: does drugs... boy, total rumor, that has to be the worst reason for a slip in the 1st round.. Like, I understand why Aaron Rodgers fell. Super weird release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Indy, I love ya, but take like a 4 or 5 week break from the board leading up to the draft. It's only going to get worse here in the next few weeks in terms of QB prospect talk. Trans I'm actually trying to have a little fun here as opposed to the endless obsession over what QB to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: If you just looked at Namaths stats you would say no way is he HoF worthy... when you actually watched him you would realize he had the best pocket movement out of any QB of his era and the best deep ball... first QB to throw for over 4000 yards in a season ... he was definitely HoF worthy though people today say he isn't worth it... he changed the game Can't tell the story of the league without him that includes the AFL-NFL bidding war and of course leading the 1st AFL team to a Super Bowl victory with the huge upset of the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Have a little fun with it. Or continue obsessing over your opinions of this years QBs. Just thought I'd change it up a bit Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Can't tell the story of the league without him that includes the AFL-NFL bidding war and of course leading the 1st AFL team to a Super Bowl victory with the huge upset of the Colts. I remember the white shoes and that he backpedaled in his drop. First guy that ever did that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) DunkirkDave Said: "My sources tell me Ralph Wilson's strawmen have been buying up land around Orchard Park." 96 pages of ridicule followed. SaviorDarragh Said: "I think this Dan Darragh kid has something. With a better offensive line and OJ Simpson behind him he could be a winner." 26BumpAndRun Linked to 18 articles, including "Merger Talks a Pipe Dream for AFL Fans." SBS warned posters not to try to circumvent the naughty word filter by typing "H@ck if I know what Collier was thinking" and "Kemp is a washed up piece of cr%p" "Sabanero" (with that little squiggly thing over the n, and with an avatar of Lou Saban in a sombrero) posted snarky comments about BryanRBillz's grammar and usage And over on BostonPatriotsFanForum, some guy insisted that every poster refer to that 1965 AFL Championship game as the "Billsh!t Victory" as he cheered the end of the Bills Dynasty. Edited March 23, 2018 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: If you just looked at Namaths stats you would say no way is he HoF worthy... when you actually watched him you would realize he had the best pocket movement out of any QB of his era and the best deep ball... first QB to throw for over 4000 yards in a season ... he was definitely HoF worthy though people today say he isn't worth it... he changed the game Namath does not deserve it, and I'll defend that position till my death. The guy threw more INT's than TD's. Nothing else need be said but that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Namath does not deserve it, and I'll defend that position till my death. The guy threw more INT's than TD's. Nothing else need be said but that. So did HoF George Blanda and YA Tittle... it was a different game Edited March 23, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, nucci said: wondering how Kelly and teammates would have been treated on this board...Kelly was an ass when out drinking...saw him and others out many times ..Reed and Talley in bar fights on Elmwood....many using coke... Same here, bunch of clods in public, no question about it. However, I did a bunch of shots one time with Dale Hawerchuck, Alex Mogilny and Phillipe Boucher(sp?) at Mickey Rats on Main St when I was at UB. Mogilny bummed a bunch of smokes off me. Nice fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Same here, bunch of clods in public, no question about it. However, I did a bunch of shots one time with Dale Hawerchuck, Alex Mogilny and Phillipe Boucher(sp?) at Mickey Rats on Main St when I was at UB. Mogilny bummed a bunch of smokes off me. Nice fellas. Sabres back then were more fun to drink with...didn't have the arrogance of Bills players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: So did HoF George Blanda and YA Tittle... it was a different game Yes the defense could actually defend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, Lurker said: Here are Bradshaw's career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD V Career 168 158 107-51-0 2025 3901 51.9 27989 212 5.4 210 5.4 90 7.2 5.8 13.8 166.6 70.9 307 2694 6.01 4.77 7.3 15 23 137 Other than the W-L record, his gold jacket today would be for Century 21, rather than Canton... Greatness is relative, always has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If we had had all these Internet "journalists" pontificating on QBs back then, can you imagine what would have been written. Here's a couple I thought about: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Fran Tarkenton: gimmick QB who will not survive his first big hit in the NFL, has to learn how to throw from the pocket if he wants to play in the league Feel free to add your own Great topic oldmanfan! specially for those of us who lived deeply into the two different eras of before / after internet! not only that articular case for the drafts analysis, but for example I couldn't even grasp how would it had been, to come here and read / post during our heroes superbowl run years in the 90s!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, MJS said: Namath does not deserve it, and I'll defend that position till my death. The guy threw more INT's than TD's. Nothing else need be said but that. Did you watch football in '60s and '70s? Defenses were allowed to play defense....none of this "prior to the pass, holding defense" crap. They didn't call contact penalties on defenses every other play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: So did HoF George Blanda and YA Tittle... it was a different game Namath made the HOF because he was the first AFL QB to win a super bowl. That's the only reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, nucci said: Sabres back then were more fun to drink with...didn't have the arrogance of Bills players And Rayzors was a fun place to hang out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: Namath made the HOF because he was the first AFL QB to win a super bowl. That's the only reason. He also had the single highest passing yardage season in NFL history at the time ... what about YA Tittle and George Blanda? Why are they in the HoF with more Picks than TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: If we had had all these Internet "journalists" pontificating on QBs back then, can you imagine what would have been written. Here's a couple I thought about: Terry Bradshaw: strong arm but inaccurate, cannot process defenses rapidly enough to survive in the NFL, grades out in the 2-3 round Fran Tarkenton: gimmick QB who will not survive his first big hit in the NFL, has to learn how to throw from the pocket if he wants to play in the league Feel free to add your own anyone against the Vietnam war is a pinko those japanese cars are garbage and nobody will buy them in ten years computers will be twice as powerful and ten times larger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, dorquemada said: in ten years computers will be twice as powerful and ten times larger And only the richest kings of the world will be able to afford them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 and the internet won't be around too long either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: anyone against the Vietnam war is a pinko those japanese cars are garbage and nobody will buy them in ten years computers will be twice as powerful and ten times larger That Dick Nixon has a smart crease in his pants and a bright future General Motors will never get it's commeupance I like the Cleveland Browns and Buffalo Bills to vie for long term dominance in the AFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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