Hebert19 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 It might just be me but beane seems to love to throw smoke screens out there and tall people into stuff that he wants them to believe. He's done this a number of times...from saying sammy is a huge part of the offense to saying Dareus is doing all the right things. He plays with everyone to maximize value he can get in return. To me this draft is no different. He had a plan all along and he's executing on it. Gut tells me his favorite QB is QB3 to QB5...and it has been all along. He traded up to get McDermott his LB and he's going to wait to get Jackson Rudolph or something else. He likely realized the cost was too high to trade up. It forced the jets to make a bonehead move and it will force others to jump ahead where he cam take advantage of his 12th pick being bpa. Just a hunch but he seems very methodical and doesn't do anything by chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 He is surely a good chess player? 5 moves ahead well the others live in the moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I see it a little differant. Similar premise. The move to 12 was to put them in position to get their second choice at qb. Depending on the price the ability to get their number 1 choice. Imo Buffalo has is Rosen 1 Jackson 2. Beane is going to take the next month determining is Rosen 3 firsts and 2 thirds better than Jackson. After watching the past year Im going to go with the conclusion Rosen is not. Buffalo gets Jackson and then makes a move to Mcd his linebaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Yes, because he is supposed to annouce exactly what he is doing to the rest of the NFL... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I’m IN on his 3D Chess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Yes, because he is supposed to annouce exactly what he is doing to the rest of the NFL... My God, what do people seriously expect? A tour of the war room? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Beane has done a phenomenal job so far. I'm reserved to see what's next. He can't control what the Jets do nor the Colts. None of us have knowledge of how the trade went down. I'm reserved to think the Colts didn't want to move that far back. Its a long way to the Draft... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: It might just be me but beane seems to love to throw smoke screens out there and tall people into stuff that he wants them to believe. He's done this a number of times...from saying sammy is a huge part of the offense to saying Dareus is doing all the right things. He plays with everyone to maximize value he can get in return. To me this draft is no different. He had a plan all along and he's executing on it. Gut tells me his favorite QB is QB3 to QB5...and it has been all along. He traded up to get McDermott his LB and he's going to wait to get Jackson Rudolph or something else. He likely realized the cost was too high to trade up. It forced the jets to make a bonehead move and it will force others to jump ahead where he cam take advantage of his 12th pick being bpa. Just a hunch but he seems very methodical and doesn't do anything by chance. Im short so his power doesnt work on me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: He is surely a good chess player? 5 moves ahead well the others live in the moments. ...he is OBD's Phil Ivey...."check"............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I see it a little differant. Similar premise. The move to 12 was to put them in position to get their second choice at qb. Depending on the price the ability to get their number 1 choice. Imo Buffalo has is Rosen 1 Jackson 2. Beane is going to take the next month determining is Rosen 3 firsts and 2 thirds better than Jackson. After watching the past year Im going to go with the conclusion Rosen is not. Buffalo gets Jackson and then makes a move to Mcd his linebaker. Agree. Could be the opposite but same concept. I'm thinking Jackson is their number 2 no matter what. That's why you sign the guy with upside to a 2 year deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Beane is still the man. The Jets may have traded up to get ahead of Buffalo, but doing it 40 days before the draft was stupid. Maybe they just did it to guarantee a shot at 1 of the 3, but 40 days before the draft? Anyone who doesn't think Beane has a plan, is ignorant. Look at the picks he has to work with. Either he drafts a ton of top players, or uses them to target a QB he wants, possibly at 2. Round 1: 12 (from Cincinnati) Round 1: 22 (from Kansas City) Round 2: 53 Rohbd 2: 56 (from Los Angeles Rams) Round 3: 65 (from Cleveland) Round 3: 96 (from Philadelphia) Round 4: 121 Round 5: 166 Round 6: 187 (from Cincinnati) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, PIZ said: Beane is still the man. The Jets may have traded up to get ahead of Buffalo, but doing it 40 days before the draft was stupid. Maybe they just did it to guarantee a shot at 1 of the 3, but 40 days before the draft? Anyone who doesn't think Beane has a plan, is ignorant. Look at the picks he has to work with. Either he drafts a ton of top players, or uses them to target a QB he wants, possibly at 2. Round 1: 12 (from Cincinnati) Round 1: 22 (from Kansas City) Round 2: 53 Rohbd 2: 56 (from Los Angeles Rams) Round 3: 65 (from Cleveland) Round 3: 96 (from Philadelphia) Round 4: 121 Round 5: 166 Round 6: 187 (from Cincinnati) ....should be careful with that "voice of reason" stuff 'round these parts unless you're wearing kevlar......we haven't had a treasure chest of draft capital and a skilled craftsman calling the shots since the Polian era (just put my kevlar vest on too)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....should be careful with that "voice of reason" stuff 'round these parts unless you're wearing kevlar......we haven't had a treasure chest of draft capital and a skilled craftsman calling the shots since the Polian era (just put my kevlar vest on too)..... Agreed. People are letting past regimes ruin the excitement of this draft. This isn't Doug Whaley running the draft. I'm truly excited to see what Beane will do. Whatever he does will be the best for the Buffalo Bills. People will someday realize how awesome it is to have a GM and front office that works with a purpose and a plan. What the Jets did, trading to #3, 40 days before the draft, shows incompetence and recklessness. It is either that, or ownership interfered and forced them to make that trade now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Lenigmusx said: He is surely a good chess player? 5 moves ahead well the others live in the moments. 18 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Im short so his power doesnt work on me Don't sell yourself short, dude. Tall is a state of mind. Carry yourself like Beane. He'd tell you that you're tall...but would it just be an elaborate smokescreen to throw you off of the fact that you really ARE short in order to lull another board into taking you ahead of TBD?? Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: Agreed. People are letting past regimes ruin the excitement of this draft. This isn't Doug Whaley running the draft. I'm truly excited to see what Beane will do. Whatever he does will be the best for the Buffalo Bills. People will someday realize how awesome it is to have a GM and front office that works with a purpose and a plan. What the Jets did, trading to #3, 40 days before the draft, shows incompetence and recklessness. It is either that, or ownership interfered and forced them to make that trade now. ...HOME RUN assessment right there bud....yet the Chicken Littles are whining about how the Jesters effed us and how McBeane should be fired...BTW, I did like the Whaley continually shopped 24/7 looking for ways to improve the roster....problem is we'll never know how much input he actually had or was doing what he was "told to do"....haters will always hate....pretty evident IMO that McBeane is at the helm with significant input from McD and McDaboll....this team effort could prove huge dividends...until the next "SHOULD MCBEANE BE FIRED" thread pops up...ignorance is bliss, right??.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: My God, what do people seriously expect? A tour of the war room? Isn’t that what Dunkirk Don proposed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Beane’s playing chess.....the rest of the leagues playing checkers. Beane’s playing the game.......the rest of the leagues playing scrimmage. Beane’s organizing the best draft this franchise has seen in 2 decades........the rest of the league couldn’t organize a 2 car parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If Beane could package our 6th round pick, our 5th round pick and our 4th round pick for an early 3rd, we would have two 1sts, two 2nds and three 3rds. If he then traded the 22nd pick for a 1st next year and a 3rd this year, it would give us 1 less in the 1st round and another 3rd this year. That's 7 picks in the 1st three rounds and a high chance of having all of them contributing and starting THIS year... That would build a solid team and we would still have two 1st round picks next year. Just a thought... Im hungry though. I havent had breakfast yet so maybe my mind is just not there yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If Tyler Boyd drops that ball, I wonder if people would be drinking the kool aid so hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Hebert19 said: It might just be me but beane seems to love to throw smoke screens out there and tall people into stuff that he wants them to believe. He's done this a number of times...from saying sammy is a huge part of the offense to saying Dareus is doing all the right things. He plays with everyone to maximize value he can get in return. To me this draft is no different. He had a plan all along and he's executing on it. Gut tells me his favorite QB is QB3 to QB5...and it has been all along. He traded up to get McDermott his LB and he's going to wait to get Jackson Rudolph or something else. He likely realized the cost was too high to trade up. It forced the jets to make a bonehead move and it will force others to jump ahead where he cam take advantage of his 12th pick being bpa. Just a hunch but he seems very methodical and doesn't do anything by chance. He said Dareus NEEDS to do the right things...as we all know..the writing was on the wall when he was sent home alone before the preseason game last august. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: My God, what do people seriously expect? A tour of the war room? It would help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Isn’t that what Dunkirk Don proposed? ...sorry bud, he's building the domed stadium...do NOT expect an answer anytime soon..........shovel ready shortly..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Good thread. INcredibly good..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...HOME RUN assessment right there bud....yet the Chicken Littles are whining about how the Jesters effed us and how McBeane should be fired...BTW, I did like the Whaley continually shopped 24/7 looking for ways to improve the roster....problem is we'll never know how much input he actually had or was doing what he was "told to do"....haters will always hate....pretty evident IMO that McBeane is at the helm with significant input from McD and McDaboll....this team effort could prove huge dividends...until the next "SHOULD MCBEANE BE FIRED" thread pops up...ignorance is bliss, right??.......... Of course McBeane takes input from McD. McD is part of McBeane. Edited March 18, 2018 by Manther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said: If Beane could package our 6th round pick, our 5th round pick and our 4th round pick for an early 3rd, we would have two 1sts, two 2nds and three 3rds. If he then traded the 22nd pick for a 1st next year and a 3rd this year, it would give us 1 less in the 1st round and another 3rd this year. That's 7 picks in the 1st three rounds and a high chance of having all of them contributing and starting THIS year... That would build a solid team and we would still have two 1st round picks next year. Just a thought... Im hungry though. I havent had breakfast yet so maybe my mind is just not there yet... You always need late round guys for depth and special teams who might break through to starting someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: If Tyler Boyd drops that ball, I wonder if people would be drinking the kool aid so hard. if he does, i think you have a lot more people screaming about "winning meaningless games". and the people screaming for them to move up "at any cost" would probably be screaming a bit louder. and on occasion, i would be drinking a bit harder and joining both of those crowds. Edited March 18, 2018 by swnybillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said: if he does, i think you have a lot more people screaming about "winning meaningless games". and the people screaming for them to move up "at any cost" would probably be screaming a bit louder. and on occasion, i would be drinking a bit harder and joining both of those crowds. We broke the drought, but lets not pretend this team the past year was all that much different than the 3 years before it (we were maybe even less talented last year than the 3 previous years). Only difference is math broke our way. If Boyd drops a ball we don't even play in literally nothing changes with our regular season and you'd see a lot less people who are willing to just blindly accept everything done by the new regime. Until we have an option under center who gives us a chance to walk into Foxboro and win in January (or even October), it's all just masturbation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: It would help... Help who exactly? Every other team drafting a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Help who exactly? Every other team drafting a QB? That was general sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, Reed83HOF said: That was general sarcasm... Sorry. I'm not sure sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sorry. I'm not sure sometimes. LOL Especially on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: We broke the drought, but lets not pretend this team the past year was all that much different than the 3 years before it (we were maybe even less talented last year than the 3 previous years). Only difference is math broke our way. If Boyd drops a ball we don't even play in literally nothing changes with our regular season and you'd see a lot less people who are willing to just blindly accept everything done by the new regime. Until we have an option under center who gives us a chance to walk into Foxboro and win in January (or even October), it's all just masturbation. It's all just masturbation Which is also fun, but better with your partner lol. On a serious note, better a lip service king than a fumbling, tongue tied, buffoon sounding, intimidated GM. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: We broke the drought, but lets not pretend this team the past year was all that much different than the 3 years before it (we were maybe even less talented last year than the 3 previous years). Only difference is math broke our way. If Boyd drops a ball we don't even play in literally nothing changes with our regular season and you'd see a lot less people who are willing to just blindly accept everything done by the new regime. Until we have an option under center who gives us a chance to walk into Foxboro and win in January (or even October), it's all just masturbation. i think we have had better teams in the past that never got the luck needed to squeak into the playoffs. and you are right, we need a qb that can get us to the playoffs year after year. hopefully we get the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: But he prefaced it with Peter King as "to be honest"........ Their QB board is set barring something unforeseen with character or injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Smoke screening everyone making them think he wants Josh Allen when he really wants Josh Rosen. It wouldn’t surprise me if he is the one leaking more about the intangibles millennial conversation around the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 We will see how it plays out but I will just sit back and watch the process unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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