Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) I can’t see how the bills end up with a qb from this draft outside of Jackson or Rudolph, both of whom would be a wasted pick. They just picked the wrong year to break the drought. Bad luck as always. Edited March 18, 2018 by joesixpack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can’t see how the bills end up with a qb from this draft outside of Jackson or Rudolph, both of whom would be a wasted pick. They just picked the wrong year to break the drought. Bad luck as always. I know...making the playoffs was awful. I really hope we go another 10 years not making the playoffs again... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Three years ago nobody wanted Keenum Foles Cousins. Now everyone is sucking their Ds. Watch AJ light it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, nucci said: I know...making the playoffs was awful. I really hope we go another 10 years not making the playoffs again... Throw in a few 2-14 seasons while your at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDave55 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can’t see how the bills end up with a qb from this draft outside of Jackson or Rudolph, both of whom would be a wasted pick. They just picked the wrong year to break the drought. Bad luck as always. I don't like Jackson.... but sign me up for Rudolph and keeping all your picks. The difference between the 1 - 6 QB's in the draft in minimal. All have flaws and there is no lock. Half will fail. I don't want to do another Sammy Watkins deal. If you look at the analytics of the QB class, Rudolph is 1 or 2 on a majority of categories. For some of us Depressing would by trading away four picks for let's say Rosen, and he gets injured constantly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 IMO Rudolph is not a wasted pick, I would be fine with Rudolph at 12. He is a pocket QB exactly what we have all wanted, not top 3 QB but IMO #4. Sadly I can see some other team taking him and then being stuck with Allen/Jackson who are 2nd rounders IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloDave55 said: I don't like Jackson.... but sign me up for Rudolph and keeping all your picks. The difference between the 1 - 6 QB's in the draft in minimal. All have flaws and there is no lock. Half will fail. I don't want to do another Sammy Watkins deal. If you look at the analytics of the QB class, Rudolph is 1 or 2 on a majority of categories. For some of us Depressing would by trading away four picks for let's say Rosen, and he gets injured constantly. Well said. Keep your draft capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can’t see how the bills end up with a qb from this draft outside of Jackson or Rudolph, both of whom would be a wasted pick. They just picked the wrong year to break the drought. Bad luck as always. Jackson's better than all of the others. I just don't understand why he's not considered a top five pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just let it play out. I want #2 as bad as anyone, but if it is meant to be it'll be. Really all we can do is wait at this point. Hopeully the panic induced yesterday wanes and we can just see what happens. The paranoia in acting like Beane has come out and said no way no how has to subside. Let it play out and save the ledge jumping for when we have a clear picture. Right now? Who knows. 3 might have been the target. 2 might have been it all along. Again- Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Mason Rudolph at 12? Ugh - this is like preparing for a perfect 10 oz filet from the best steakhouse in town, and ending up with a chewy piece of brisket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: Jackson's better than all of the others. I just don't understand why he's not considered a top five pick. Toothpick legs and many fans are done with QBs that have similarities to Tyrod. IMO fans want a true pocket QB not a QB that will take off running first over waiting and take the hit in the pocket to make the throw. 8 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Mason Rudolph at 12? Ugh - this is like preparing for a perfect 10 oz filet from the best steakhouse in town, and ending up with a chewy piece of brisket. We keep all are picks and get a very good pocket QB to sit and learn year one, it's a win, win IMO. Sadly IMO Cards want him and can jump the Bills to get him. Edited March 18, 2018 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, nucci said: I know...making the playoffs was awful. I really hope we go another 10 years not making the playoffs again... ....I'm thinkin' Joe may need to upgrade to a 12 pack to better drown his sorrows.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 It is a sad day. I put my dark eye liner on this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: IMO Rudolph is not a wasted pick, I would be fine with Rudolph at 12. He is a pocket QB exactly what we have all wanted, not top 3 QB but IMO #4. Sadly I can see some other team taking him and then being stuck with Allen/Jackson who are 2nd rounders IMO. personally, i would not mind seeing the Bills take a flier on Falk at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xRUSHx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: personally, i would not mind seeing the Bills take a flier on Falk at some point. If after all this the Bills only take a late rounder in Falk I think fans will jump off the falls. IMO they have no choice but to take a QB in round one. Now IMO if the Bills are taking two QBs in this draft then yes I agree grab Falk or White or Lauletta and bump Peterman to the PS or trade him Edited March 18, 2018 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can’t see how the bills end up with a qb from this draft outside of Jackson or Rudolph, both of whom would be a wasted pick. They just picked the wrong year to break the drought. Bad luck as always. In reflection I don’t think you embraced the tank hard enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) I wouldnt be depressed at all. I think they go into the 3rd before picking a QB. They like Petterman and picked ip AJ. This may give Nate two years to grow. They will draft one but I just would rather they took BPA at other positions of need in 1 and 2. Edit: Look for Lauletta in round 3 Edited March 18, 2018 by fansince88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: Toothpick legs and many fans are done with QBs that have similarities to Tyrod. IMO fans want a true pocket QB not a QB that will take off running first over waiting and take the hit in the pocket to make the throw. Yet Jackson doesn't have an injury history (that I've read about) and Rosen has concussions and shoulder problems. As for Tyrod comparisons, that's a false one. Jackson's an electric and dynamic playmaker in the mold of Watson. He's someone who trust his arm and Taylor never was that kind of a QB. Edited March 18, 2018 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 lay off the sauce OP, lets save the depression for after the draft. that is if it turns out depressing? who knows? anyone here gifted enough to prophesy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't stop billievein Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: IMO Rudolph is not a wasted pick, I would be fine with Rudolph at 12. He is a pocket QB exactly what we have all wanted, not top 3 QB but IMO #4. Sadly I can see some other team taking him and then being stuck with Allen/Jackson who are 2nd rounders IMO. Not at 12. If we’re not moving up to get a QB in the top 5 I want BPA at 12 and then take a chance at a QB at 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: lay off the sauce OP, lets save the depression for after the draft. that is if it turns out depressing? who knows? anyone here gifted enough to prophesy ? Only in spiritual things. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Don't stop billievein said: Not at 12. If we’re not moving up to get a QB in the top 5 I want BPA at 12 and then take a chance at a QB at 22. IMO Rudolph will not last till 22, in fact Miami could take him 1 slot above us. 5 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: Yet Jackson doesn't have an injury history (that I've read about) and Rosen has concussions and shoulder problems. As for Tyrod comparisons, that's a false one. Jackson's an electric and dynamic playmaker in the mold of Watson. He's someone who trust his arm and Taylor never was that kind of a QB. He came out this year because they were very worried about him. This has to be a major concern for Jackson and his family. The mobile quarterback is still rather thin, and with the physical style he plays, he’s always at risk to suffer an injury. If he comes back and gets hurt, his draft stock plummets, as does his signing bonus. Louisville opens against Alabama next season and also plays Clemson and Florida State among a full schedule of ACC opponents, all of whom will be gunning for him. The case for staying in school another season 1. Jackson struggled Saturday. He did not help himself in the TaxSlayer Bowl against Mississippi State. As prolific as he was in the run game, he completed just 13 of 31 passes for 171 yards, two touchdowns and four interceptions. It was his worst outing of the season in completion percentage, the statistic he worked so hard to improve as a junior. With scouts from nine NFL teams credentialed and likely more watching on TV, Jackson’s mistakes may cost him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: Jackson's better than all of the others. I just don't understand why he's not considered a top five pick. He's black and historically black QBs have not been very successful in the NFL. It's not really racism so much as pattern detection leading to bias. I think Beane will give him a fair evaluation. He compared the shallow evaluations of Jackson to the shallow evaluations of Cam Newton coming into the NFL. Edited March 18, 2018 by Fetou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Fetou said: He's black and historically black QBs have not been very successful in the NFL. It's not really racism so much as pattern detection leading to bias. I think Beane will give him a fair evaluation. He compared the shallow evaluations of Jackson to the shallow evaluations of Cam Newton coming into the NFL. Good lord get real. We don't need crap like that on this board. I'd do cartwheels to have Watson, Cam, Wilson, Jamais or Dak. Christ what's wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Good lord get real. We don't need crap like that on this board. I'd do cartwheels to have Watson, Cam, Wilson, Jamais or Dak. Christ what's wrong with you. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fetou said: He's black and historically black QBs have not been very successful in the NFL. It's not really racism so much as pattern detection leading to bias. I think Beane will give him a fair evaluation. He compared the shallow evaluations of Jackson to the shallow evaluations of Cam Newton coming into the NFL. No, it’s racism. The success rate argument, which I’m not sure is accurate, is justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Only in spiritual things. LOL hitting the sauce can bring one to spirituality, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: lay off the sauce OP, lets save the depression for after the draft. that is if it turns out depressing? who knows? anyone here gifted enough to prophesy ? Dozens will say the Bills screwed up big time and that they have had enough. Signed Mz Cleo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: lay off the sauce OP, lets save the depression for after the draft. that is if it turns out depressing? who knows? anyone here gifted enough to prophesy ? I think I’d be the closest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Fetou said: lol 26 posts and already in a death spiral. It's a privilege to post to this board, don't flame out so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, Green Lightning said: 26 posts and already in a death spiral. It's a privilege to post to this board, don't flame out so quickly. Actually 105 posts, already have 26 reputation. That appears to be very favorable compared to your ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 If the Bills drafted Watson last year this discussion wouldn’t be happening. You remember Watson, the guy who fell to number 12 in the draft, third QB taken. His skill set won’t transfer to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, chris heff said: If the Bills drafted Watson last year this discussion wouldn’t be happening. You remember Watson, the guy who fell to number 12 in the draft, third QB taken. His skill set won’t transfer to the NFL. Who is that, does he play wide receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 This guy is an instigator and a troll. Time to block! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 1billsfan said: Jackson's better than all of the others. I just don't understand why he's not considered a top five pick. Maybe I'm the traditionalist here, but I don't like running QBs. The league has shown time and time again that they flame out and those offenses are pretty close to what we had with TT, just stay in the pocket and throw the damn ball. With his frame, the last thing you want is him running and getting smashed...he will get hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: This guy is an instigator and a troll. Time to block! Which guy? if trolling was a reason then a lot of threads would be locked in hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 1billsfan said: Yet Jackson doesn't have an injury history (that I've read about) and Rosen has concussions and shoulder problems. As for Tyrod comparisons, that's a false one. Jackson's an electric and dynamic playmaker in the mold of Watson. He's someone who trust his arm and Taylor never was that kind of a QB. Watson's accuracy is not great...The TT comparisons go back to the style of offense we would run.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Maybe I'm the traditionalist here, but I don't like running QBs. The league has shown time and time again that they flame out and those offenses are pretty close to what we had with TT, just stay in the pocket and throw the damn ball. With his frame, the last thing you want is him running and getting smashed...he will get hurt... This. How many games did TT get banged up this season alone? 3, 4, 5 ? Id say he had 2 games where he could ha r had a borderline concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Which guy? if trolling was a reason then a lot of threads would be locked in hours. Sorry, Fetou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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