YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Plus Andrew Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: But you’re not acknowledging the types of calls and their yardage awarded. Focusing on number of calls (and a post-snap qualifier to boot)...not even worth discussing. Yea, I qualified post snap. Did you see any procedural stuff missed? A delay of game and not getting set on a hurry up aren’t really all that meaningful to this debate they? and yea, 1 questionable PI in the first half... that’s not a substantial issue with officiating. Edited January 22, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Stop crying you have no dog in the fight. Your not jaguars fans! The pats won the game because they made more plays then jacksonville did. Edited January 22, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: 4 gameplay fouls vs 1 is nearly nothing called. If you want to jump in and change the discussion, I’m glad to go back that direction— but you’ve heard my take. the call in the first half I only half saw and didn’t see a replay... I read a mixed bag on it the dpi in the second half the guy got there considerably early, grabbed and twisted effecting the upper body on a very catchable ball. If we are down to one questionable dpi - the refs had a stellar day. There are calls and games I won’t defend but if that same exact game happened but Steelers vs jags instead, the board would be generally praising it. Rewatch the game clinching 3rd down run, edge defender held from behind while trying to get to the edge. THE most obvious holding there is, called practically every time, directly affecting the play at a crucial moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: Yea, I qualified post snap. Did you see any procedural stuff missed? A delay of game and not getting set on a hurry up aren’t really all that meaningful to this y’all are they? and yea, 1 questionable PI in the first half... that’s not a substantial issue with officiating. Really? In a 4 point game? When was the last time a game altering questionable call or non-call (even one) went against the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: Rewatch the game clinching 3rd down run, edge defender held from behind while trying to get to the edge. THE most obvious holding there is, called practically every time, directly affecting the play at a crucial moment. Ill keep an eye out for a replay - but think it’s relevant to continue to echo that only one hold was called all day (when a player was taken to the ground and laid on top of when he had a path to the qb) im not arguing neither team held but that the refs made it clear that they weren’t really tossing flags on either team. I’d guess with the same focus you find jags holding uncalled too, no? 8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Really? In a 4 point game? When was the last time a game altering questionable call or non-call (even one) went against the Patriots? Mid your standard for refs is perfection- I’m not sure why you ever enjoyed football. One questionable call in the first half is a banner day for officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Ill keep an eye out for a replay - but think it’s relevant to continue to echo that only one hold was called all day (when a player was taken to the ground and laid on top of when he had a path to the qb) im not arguing neither team held but that the refs made it clear that they weren’t really tossing flags on either team. I’d guess with the same focus you find jags holding uncalled too, no? I get that, but blatant holding on the edge directly affecting a play is what penalties are supposed to be for. Not a play that you can just 'let em play'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Stop crying you have no dog in the fight. Your not jaguars fans! The pats won the game because they made more plays then jacksonville did. You're a Jag's Troll on a Bills board........................................you are the dog! Edited January 22, 2018 by ColoradoBills Jags not Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: All I will say is the only way I have seen NE get beaten and shut out of a football game is when a team has a crazy defensive line who can get after Brady CONSISTENTLY. See Giants with Strahan, Tuck, Umenyiora. That line made Brady's life hell and that's probably the only way you'll beat them. That and when their WR's catch the football they must get knocked out (loss to the Ravens in the AFC championship, Bernard Pollard with the hit heard around the NFL. Knocked Ridley clean out). The Jags are halfway there. But they had some stretches today where Brady was just too comfortable. Or maybe by a team from a larger media market than Boston. Edited January 22, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Mid your standard for refs is perfection- I’m not sure why you ever enjoyed football. One questionable call in the first half is a banner day for officiating. And if you don’t understand how being the beneficiary of bad calls, singular or otherwise, time and time and time again isn’t coincidental... Maybe you don’t see it. I have it differently. No big deal. Still enjoy the game. The point is that in a capped profit sharing league there’s no reason why one club should recieve such benefit of the doubt...you can at least understand when Man United and Madrid get favorable officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I get that, but blatant holding on the edge directly affecting a play is what penalties are supposed to be for. Not a play that you can just 'let em play'. I get it- I’m not a huge fan of officiating changing on big stages. I’d rather it be the same on the first and last play of the season. Just arguing that as long as it’s generally consistent between teams it’s hard to justify melting down that it was fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: 21 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Stop crying you have no dog in the fight. Your not jaguars fans! The pats won the game because they made more plays then jacksonville did. I mean that's highly debatable too since the Pats got 100 yards from the refs while the Jags only got 10. Average NFL yards per play is roughly 5.5 so do the math on who made more plays in a 4 point game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 The better and bigger and more prepped team wins in the playoffs Deal with it next quuuuuuuueeeeessssssstion........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Ill keep an eye out for a replay - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: The better and bigger and more prepped team wins in the playoffs Deal with it next quuuuuuuueeeeessssssstion........ Jags outgained them, dominated TOP, and won the turnover battle. Refs were the difference imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You're a Jag's Troll on a Bills board........................................you are the dog! A jags troll.m not at all. My team is not the jags my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Cmdjr85 said: A jags troll.m not at all. My team is not the jags my friend Original post had Pat's. A troll is a troll, by any other name.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: I mean that's highly debatable too since the Pats got 100 yards from the refs while the Jags only got 10. Average NFL yards per play is roughly 5.5 so do the math on who made more plays in a 4 point game. Thats not debatable. My team won the game because they made a few more plays then the jags did. Its that simple. My team didnt run away with the game. And the refs did no favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Cmdjr85 said: Thats not debatable. My team won the game because they made a few more plays then the jags did. Its that simple. My team didnt run away with the game. And the refs did no favor. They had a whole 90 more yards given to them by the refs. That's a free length of the field traveled. Even during the halftime show they said well your in Gillette so the flags have to come out. It's becoming so obvious that NFL broadcasters are beginning to comment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I get it- I’m not a huge fan of officiating changing on big stages. I’d rather it be the same on the first and last play of the season. Just arguing that as long as it’s generally consistent between teams it’s hard to justify melting down that it was fixed Well, nothing worth melting down over. I am relaxing and enjoying time off. I played a lot of sports and have always been a proponent of good sportsmanship and fair play. The integrity of the game depends on a level playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Zebrastripes said: They had a whole 90 more yards given to them by the refs. That's a free length of the field traveled. Even during the halftime show they said well your in Gillette so the flags have to come out. It's becoming so obvious that NFL broadcasters are beginning to comment on it. I dont care what tony romo said, they mugged cooks a few times and it wasnt debatable. What is? The dion lewis fumble, which he was down on. So why didnt the refs givw them the ball back? I mean this big consparicy but they give jacksonvillw the ball. In 2 weeks they are gonna win another title. And you can blame the refs then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: I dont care what tony romo said, they mugged cooks a few times and it wasnt debatable. What is? The dion lewis fumble, which he was down on. So why didnt the refs givw them the ball back? I mean this big consparicy but they give jacksonvillw the ball. In 2 weeks they are gonna win another title. And you can blame the refs then LOL. At this whole post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Well, nothing worth melting down over. I am relaxing and enjoying time off. I played a lot of sports and have always been a proponent of good sportsmanship and fair play. The integrity of the game depends on a level playing field. Cheers to that, and wasn’t meaning to hit you with the melt comment as much as a general tone from many — enjoy your evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: I dont care what tony romo said, they mugged cooks a few times and it wasnt debatable. What is? The dion lewis fumble, which he was down on. So why didnt the refs givw them the ball back? I mean this big consparicy but they give jacksonvillw the ball. In 2 weeks they are gonna win another title. And you can blame the refs then You really think Lewis was down? This just shows everything you have argued has no merit what so ever and you truly are a homer. 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: LOL. At this whole post. Completely clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: What does coaching have to do with why Cooks’ catch vs the Texans was a TD and Benjamin’s and Seferian-Jenkins’ weren’t? ouch 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Yep, you'd have to be incredibly naive to believe that the Pats actually commit fewer penalties than other teams by such a wide margin. It's gone beyond the obvious call vs the opponent into blatant non calls that are overlooked or just not noticed by casual fans. These things have a huge impact in close games, which most NFL games are. Then the inevitable couple calls vs the Pats late when the game is out of reach. Not all penalties have equal impact. what would you contribute this apparent trend to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 i remain entirely too conscious of when and where of flags are thrown for or against the Pats. Is it really just a Buffalo Bills Fan perception thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CommonCents Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: i remain entirely too conscious of when and where of flags are thrown for or against the Pats. Is it really just a Buffalo Bills Fan perception thing ? No. Look around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: I dont care what tony romo said, they mugged cooks a few times and it wasnt debatable. What is? The dion lewis fumble, which he was down on. So why didnt the refs givw them the ball back? I mean this big consparicy but they give jacksonvillw the ball. In 2 weeks they are gonna win another title. And you can blame the refs then That call on Cooks was awful. They were both pushing at each other and it was an uncatchable ball. Assuming you are talking about the one at the end of the first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Thats not debatable. My team won the game because they made a few more plays then the jags did. Its that simple. My team didnt run away with the game. And the refs did no favor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turk71 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The Sith Edited January 22, 2018 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBills808 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Jags secondary was called for 4 DPIs the ENTIRE SEASON. They had 2 huge ones today against the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I think most teams or all besides Pats 12th man is fans. Patriots 12th man is the Refs and upstairs! lol Edited January 22, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 They are young and going to be tough for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Cmdjr85 said: I dont care what tony romo said, they mugged cooks a few times and it wasnt debatable. What is? The dion lewis fumble, which he was down on. So why didnt the refs givw them the ball back? I mean this big consparicy but they give jacksonvillw the ball. In 2 weeks they are gonna win another title. And you can blame the refs then My first question, why are you on here if you’re a pats fan? Other then trolling. Second, if you believed Lewis was down with control then you need to get your prescription changed to something stronger. https://m.tlcvision.com/centers/boston/?eventid=7188 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 6:41 PM, GoBills808 said: 75 yards of DPI isn’t ‘nearly nothing’, it’s a huge advantage. Basically just 14 points on "nearly nothing". Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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