SouthNYfan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 47 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: So you think 4 qbs go top 10 because Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield are all better prospects then Allen is. Allen is a super raw talent that couldn't even complete 60% of his passes against weak college opponents. I'm not saying Allen sucks I'm just saying he has a way lower floor than the other 3 ahead of him. He also has a way higher ceiling but that Is a huge gamble for a top 10 pick. Okay I was exaggerating. You said you think Rudolph, Allen, and Jackson will be available at 21/22 That's just absurd. Allen won't make it past 15. Is that better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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offyourocker Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 21. Buffalo Bills Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech. The Bills are a prime candidate to trade up to nab the quarterback they want, but if they instead stand pat and let the draft come to them, Edmunds makes a whole lot of sense for Sean McDermott, who is used to having stud linebackers after coming to Buffalo from Carolina. Edmunds has the speed to cover the field and is a weapon rushing the passer as well after racking up 30.5 tackles for loss and 10 sacks in his final two years at Virginia Tech. 22. Buffalo Bills from Chiefs Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State. I think it's possible the Bills pass on taking a quarterback here if they don't trade up for a particular target, especially if they can add another stud like Da'Ron Payne to the defense. But with the players left on the board here, Rudolph makes the most sense to me as a potential franchise passer for a team that desperately needs one. I'm a Tyrod Taylor fan, but the Bills apparently aren't based on how they've handled him, so expect them to bring in some outside talent at the position. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-broncos-take-baker-mayfield-jets-pass-on-a-quarterback/ Love the idea of Edmunds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: You're drunk if you think Allen makes it out of the top 10. Allen is a terrible QB prospect. There is no difference between him and EJ Manuel. His production, and game tape is that of a late round draft pick. Take away his height and weight, and evaluate him purely as a passer, and he's nothing more than a late round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Allen is a terrible QB prospect. There is no difference between him and EJ Manuel. His production, and game tape is that of a late round draft pick. Take away his height and weight, and evaluate him purely as a passer, and he's nothing more than a late round pick. 1,000% agree. I will go ape **** if we draft him or Jackson. They are both horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: Allen is a terrible QB prospect. There is no difference between him and EJ Manuel. His production, and game tape is that of a late round draft pick. Take away his height and weight, and evaluate him purely as a passer, and he's nothing more than a late round pick. Except 90% of the predraft rankings and predictions have him going in the top 15, with about 50% of them having him in the top 5-8. Guess you know something that NFL scouts and talent evaluators don't. Tell me more about how he's a "terrible QB prospect" No different than EJ? Nobody had him going as high as Buffalo took him, and the decision was universally panned of my memory serves correctly. Allen is a consensus high first round pick, the lowest I've seen him going in any mock is 21 to Buffalo. Is he the #1 pick? I don't think so. He's got huge upside, but it's too big a risk for #1 overall. You have zero idea what you are talking about if you don't think he's a upper half of first round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I would pop champagne if Smith is there at 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 DE Marcus Davenport WR Anthony Miller DT Vita Vea S/LB Derwin James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: DE Marcus Davenport WR Anthony Miller DT Vita Vea S/LB Derwin James To me Davenport is way too RAW for rd 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 2018-01-20 at 9:49 AM, NewDayBills said: 21. Roquan Smith 22.) Vita Vea 33.) Mason Rudolph (trade up with CLE) If this happens I would be pretty excited. 3 great players at positions of need for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 BILLS TODAY: BILLS BOLSTER DEFNSE IN PFF MOCK DRAFT Here's the Bills news of note for Jan. 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 no way roquan falls to us but if he does mcd cant get to the podium fast enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 In his first mock draft of the season, NFLDraftScout.com's Rob Ranghas the Bills staying put at picks 21 and 22 and adding an impact player on each side of the ball. He started with LSU pass rusher Arden Key, who had an underwhelming final season with the Tigers but has tons of potential. Here's what Rang said: "The Bills finished last among playoff teams with just 27 sacks over the regular season. That won't sit well with defensive-minded head coach Sean McDermott, who could see the 6-5, 265-pound Key as the perfect edge rusher to unlock Buffalo's potential." The blockbuster pick of Rang's draft comes at 22, though. With that pick, he has the Bills taking Louisville quarterback Lamar Jackson. Jackson is a polarizing prospect in the NFL Draft community. Former Bills general manager Bill Polian thinks Jackson would fit best in the NFL as a wide receiver, but his passing acumen developed well during his time at Louisville. Jackson is still an unfinished product at quarterback, but there's not much reason to think he can't continue his ascent and become a franchise quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendernaught Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 9:00 AM, Green Lightning said: I don't think Rudolph lasts until 21. Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: In his first mock draft of the season, NFLDraftScout.com's Rob Ranghas the Bills staying put at picks 21 and 22 and adding an impact player on each side of the ball. He started with LSU pass rusher Arden Key, who had an underwhelming final season with the Tigers but has tons of potential. Here's what Rang said: "The Bills finished last among playoff teams with just 27 sacks over the regular season. That won't sit well with defensive-minded head coach Sean McDermott, who could see the 6-5, 265-pound Key as the perfect edge rusher to unlock Buffalo's potential." The blockbuster pick of Rang's draft comes at 22, though. With that pick, he has the Bills taking Louisville quarterback Lamar Jackson. Jackson is a polarizing prospect in the NFL Draft community. Former Bills general manager Bill Polian thinks Jackson would fit best in the NFL as a wide receiver, but his passing acumen developed well during his time at Louisville. Jackson is still an unfinished product at quarterback, but there's not much reason to think he can't continue his ascent and become a franchise quarterback. Rob, you're almost right!! Gotta get the BIG man first!! Gotta get Vea!! Vea and Jackson would be awesome 1st rd picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 9:49 AM, NewDayBills said: 21. Roquan Smith 22.) Vita Vea 33.) Mason Rudolph (trade up with CLE) If this happens, I'd be ecstatic. But I don't see either Smith or Vea falling that far, I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 10 hours ago, CSBill said: If this happens, I'd be ecstatic. But I don't see either Smith or Vea falling that far, I hope I'm wrong. This would be a dream scenario. Ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 7:27 PM, Tatonka68 said: 21 Mason Rudolph QB 22. James Washington WR I thought about that combo when watching them in their bowl game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Not real familiar with New Arena but this is a pretty interesting mock draft. http://newarena.com/nfl/2018-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-who-will-your-favorite-team-select/?amxt=fbdt_avnt2 Here's what they have for the Bills: Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M As we saw in the playoff loss to the Jaguars, Buffalo is in desperate need of some skill within its receiver corps. Kelvin Benjamin’s conditioning is a huge question mark going forward. Apologies to Deonte Thompson, but he’s not anything more than a third receiver (at best). Kirk would offer Buffalo a true game-breaker. He can line up at any spot – whether it’s in the slot, or on the perimeter. Having elite ball skills and sublime quickness, Kirk is supremely slippery with the ball in his hands. His value is increased even further with terrific skill in the return game. Buffalo would do very well to land him at this point in the draft. Should the Bills move on from Tyrod Taylor, Mason Rudolph could get a look here. and: Christian Wilkins DT Clemson Kyle Williams has long been the heartbeat of the Bills’ franchise. His entire 11-year career has been played in Buffalo, and the 5-time Pro Bowler has been more than impactful both on and off the field. However, at 34 years of age, it may be time for Buffalo to draft his eventual replacement. Enter Wilkins – a versatile defender with an intriguing skill-set. The 6’4” 300-pounder can virtually play anywhere along the defensive front. Though a nice athlete, Wilkins also plays with a low center of gravity. This enables him to be solid against the run. With the big game experience he’s collected at Clemson, expect Wilkins to make an impact early in the NFL. By the way, the more I see of Christian Kirk, the more intrigued I am. I know WR is not a top priority, but damn he looks good and is a hell of a return guy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Wilkins returned to school. Maybe it was an older mock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Wilkins returned to school. Maybe it was an older mock? Oh, must have been. Sorry, did not notice that. The article was from Jan 11th. Perhaps they just had a bad research team. Edited January 23, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 21. Buffalo Bills | Mason Rudolph | QB | Oklahoma State Tyrod Taylor doesn’t look like the long-term answer for the Bills at quarterback, and the early returns aren’t promising on Nate Peterman. A bit of a reach this early, Rudolph is big, athletic and talented, but needs more polish and consistency. 22. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Vita Vea | DL | Washington After landing their franchise quarterback a few picks earlier, the Bills turn their attention to the defensive line, where replacing the departed Marcell Dareus and the aging Kyle Williams is a priority. Vea is the rare space-eater who can get after the passer with ridiculous athleticism for his size.53. Buffalo Bills | James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State 55. Buffalo Bills (from LAR) | Leighton Vander Esch | LB | Boise State 95. Buffalo Bills (from PHI) | M.J. Stewart | CB | North Carolina 117. Buffalo Bills | Mark Walton | RB | Miami (FL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsbackto81 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 7:26 PM, CSBill said: If this happens, I'd be ecstatic. But I don't see either Smith or Vea falling that far, I hope I'm wrong. Remember these gems? OMG! I can't believe he fell to us. We're getting Ngata! Hello Whitner. OMG! I can't believe he fell to us. We're getting Orapko! Hello Maybin. OMG! I can't believe we're getting Mack! Hello Sammy. Someone always drops, question is do we pick them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SouthNYfan Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 26, seems a lot have them keeping both picks and going Rudolph, with general consensus being a defensive player at the other spot. You think Rudolph lasts until 21? I'm not sure he does. Who would you like at 22 for the defense (Vita? I'd like him or Smith, though I'm not sure Smith will be available. I think white and Gaines are good at cb, we shouldn't go with Jackson) On 1/25/2018 at 7:08 AM, billsbackto81 said: Remember these gems? OMG! I can't believe he fell to us. We're getting Ngata! Hello Whitner. OMG! I can't believe he fell to us. We're getting Orapko! Hello Maybin. OMG! I can't believe we're getting Mack! Hello Sammy. Someone always drops, question is do we pick them? I feel like I have PTDD (post traumatic draft disorder) when reliving these draft nuggets of sorrow. Edited January 26, 2018 by SouthNYfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: 26, seems a lot have them keeping both picks and going Rudolph, with general consensus being a defensive player at the other spot. You think Rudolph lasts until 21? I'm not sure he does. Who would you like at 22 for the defense (Vita? I'd like him or Smith, though I'm not sure Smith will be available. I think white and Gaines are good at cb, we shouldn't go with Jackson) I believe Rudolph has late 1st/early second value so he could very well be there. The pick at 22 will be based on how they do in UFA to plug holes and/or whether they are able to re-sign Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe Rudolph has late 1st/early second value so he could very well be there. The pick at 22 will be based on how they do in UFA to plug holes and/or whether they are able to re-sign Gaines. I agree on both counts. I wouldn't be upset with Rudolph if we decided to stay put. I agree with his talent assessment/position. Sometimes QBs jump though with a good combine. I could see him jumping into the teens. I mean Christ we took EJ in the first, so dumb sh*t happens. I would prefer we kept Gaines. He's very solid, plays well in our system, and our top 4 secondary guys (white and Gaines @ cb, poyer and Hyde @ the S) seem to compliment and play well off each other. Assuming we keep Gaines, and assuming Vita and roq are still available, who would you prefer? I like Smith a lot, although I'm wondering if the raiders take him to pair with Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: I agree on both counts. I wouldn't be upset with Rudolph if we decided to stay put. I agree with his talent assessment/position. Sometimes QBs jump though with a good combine. I could see him jumping into the teens. I mean Christ we took EJ in the first, so dumb sh*t happens. I would prefer we kept Gaines. He's very solid, plays well in our system, and our top 4 secondary guys (white and Gaines @ cb, poyer and Hyde @ the S) seem to compliment and play well off each other. Assuming we keep Gaines, and assuming Vita and roq are still available, who would you prefer? I like Smith a lot, although I'm wondering if the raiders take him to pair with Mack Smith preferably, but I can't see him lasting until 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Smith preferably, but I can't see him lasting until 22. Same I not sure vea does either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 So....Add center to our list of positions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So....Add center to our list of positions.... No. Ryan Groy is already in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No. Ryan Groy is already in place. Still need depth and if at one of our picks if a top C is available and BPA you have to take him...I never said top need btw Wood & Groy = Starter & Depth Groy = not enough Edited January 26, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Still need depth and if at one of our picks if a top C is available and BPA you have to take him...I never said top need btw Wood & Groy = Starter & Depth Groy = not enough They'll likely draft or acquire a player via free agency who can play all three interior OL positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: They'll likely draft or acquire a player via free agency who can play all three interior OL positions. Makes Hubbard from PIT even more of a target, imho. Guy can start at RT, but had some, albeit shaky, reps at C for the Steelers this year, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They'll likely draft or acquire a player via free agency who can play all three interior OL positions. As I said, add C to our list of positions that need to be drafted, which really was not on our list before...Also, Who knows how Groy will hold up as a full time starting center on an already shaky line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Groy has played for wood before and he did alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: As I said, add C to our list of positions that need to be drafted, which really was not on our list before...Also, Who knows how Groy will hold up as a full time starting center on an already shaky line I believe he will based on his play in '16 at C and the Bills matched the Rams' offer sheet so there's no doubt they like him. Edited January 26, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Isaiah Wynn out of Georgia can play multiple positions on the offensive line and has had a great week and year. Scouts are raving about him at the senior bowl. He's very versatile as he played guard and left tackle in his career and some say he can play center. He's very quick with his hands and his feet and plays with aggression. Could be a late 1 to early 2 round prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 The Buffalo Bills 17-year playoff drought came to an end but an important off-season to fill a host of needs looms. Loaded with five top 100 selections, hitting on draft picks is paramount for Buffalo to improve the talent on the roster. Using the FanSpeak On The Clock Mock Draft Simulator, here is one realistic scenario that would make sense for the Bills. Round 1, pick 21: Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama Round 1, pick 22: Taven Bryan, DT, Florida Round 2, pick 53: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State Round 2, pick 56: Billy Price, IOL, Ohio State Round 3, pick 95: Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford Round 4, pick 123: Skai Moore, LB, South Carolina Round 5, pick 160: Kemoko Turay, EDGE, Rutgers Round 5, pick 168: Jaylen Samuels, TE/RB, NC State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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