CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bridgewater is Tyrod. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If that isn't motivation to play football at a high level and get paid 20 mil a year I don't know what is. Wow, you should be able to achieve anything with a woman like that behind you. nice lil coins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Bridgewater is Tyrod. Pass. He's nothing at all like Tyrod. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TigerJ said: All three of Minnesota's QBs (Bradford, Bridgewater and Keenum) are scheduled to become free agents as of March 14 (I think). Minnesota will certainly try to extend one or two of the three before free agency begins, and let at least one go. The QBs have to agree to this, of course, but the speculation is that Bradford is the most likely to be let go. Case Keenum is probably the QB the Vikings will try the hardest to extend, so it is an unknown at this time whether Bridgewater will be available or not. We just can't risk signing a qb with injury history. No to both Teddy and Sam. Either trade for Alex or sign Cousins to under 30M. AJ would be my 3rd choice if available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's nothing at all like Tyrod. Nothing. Yeah you’re right, he’s worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Yeah you’re right, he’s worse. Excellent analysis. Almost as good as the first post you made that equated him to Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Excellent analysis. Almost as good as the first post you made that equated him to Tyrod. Who took a leak in your cheerios? He throws more picks and less touchdowns and yards than Tyrod. He may take more chances over the middle of the field but id rather Tyrod than Teddy and a rookie over both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CDogg20 said: Who took a leak in your cheerios? He throws more picks and less touchdowns and yards than Tyrod. He may take more chances over the middle of the field but id rather Tyrod than Teddy and a rookie over both. Leak in my cheerios? What does that have to do with challenging your assertion that he's like Tyrod when their respective games are nothing alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would rather hope for AJ McCarron to be a FA or trade a 3rd rd pick for McCarron I could see McCarron passing for 26 TD's and 3,900 yards with 12 INT's easily. agreed. 12 INTs .......eeeeasily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bridgewater wouldnt be a bad pickup if Taylor is released or traded. He is similar to Taylor but imo he has more potential. I would still go hard for a qb in the draft. The only qb they bring in that is not making me go hars for a qb would be Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Leak in my cheerios? What does that have to do with challenging your assertion that he's like Tyrod when their respective games are nothing alike. Yet you still haven’t said anything to back your claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Yet you still haven’t said anything to back your claim. Bridgewater is a rhythm passer who can read defenses with the ability to get the ball out with timing and anticipation within the structure of an offense on short to intermeidiate throws. He's not a great deep ball thrower and isn't a great runner/scrambler. He is in many ways is a polar opposite of Tyrod. Thus my challenge to your assertion. Edited January 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 In almost every category they are eerily similar. Sacks taken Tyrod - 36, 42, 46 Teddy - 39, 44 Yards per game TT - 216.8, 201.5, 186.5 Teddy - 224.5, 201.9 Passer rating TT - 99.4, 89.7, 89.2 Teddy - 85.2, 88.7 Yards per attempt TT - 8.0, 6.9, 6.7 Teddy - 7.3, 7.2 Yards per completion TT - 12.5, 11.6, 10.6 Teddy - 11.3, 11.1 Key areas with extremely similar results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: In almost every category they are eerily similar. Sacks taken Tyrod - 36, 42, 46 Teddy - 39, 44 Yards per game TT - 216.8, 201.5, 186.5 Teddy - 224.5, 201.9 Passer rating TT - 99.4, 89.7, 89.2 Teddy - 85.2, 88.7 Yards per attempt TT - 8.0, 6.9, 6.7 Teddy - 7.3, 7.2 Yards per completion TT - 12.5, 11.6, 10.6 Teddy - 11.3, 11.1 Key areas with extremely similar results Which means that any other QBs are essentially the same player as them based on looking up stats if one follows this logic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’ve been advocating for this. He’s young, cheap, smart, coachable, super-accurate and has one of the best touch passes in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m not sold on bridgewater. He is still young and has the ability to improve, but he hasn’t really done anything special in his short time in this league. I would rather go with a veteran and draft a QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Which means that any other QBs are essentially the same player as them based on looking up stats if one follows this logic. No not at all, I saw a lot of similarities in their game and the stats back it up. Teddy may be a little more cerebral but their games were extremely similar prior to injury. I have no idea how Teddys legs will be now on bootlegs and scrambles. If he ends up here fans will be complaining about the same things they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, CDogg20 said: No not at all, I saw a lot of similarities in their game and the stats back it up. Teddy may be a little more cerebral but their games were extremely similar prior to injury. I have no idea how Teddys legs will be now on bootlegs and scrambles. If he ends up here fans will be complaining about the same things they are now. I'm not sure what you looked at because they play the position differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm not sure what you looked at because they play the position differently. Sounds like it’s time to agree to disagree lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: No not at all, I saw a lot of similarities in their game and the stats back it up. Teddy may be a little more cerebral but their games were extremely similar prior to injury. I have no idea how Teddys legs will be now on bootlegs and scrambles. If he ends up here fans will be complaining about the same things they are now. I agree with most of what you’re saying. The main difference between him and TT is the potential Teddy has. He is 3 years younger and has barely played in the NFL. TT has reached his ceiling and we know what he is. But yes as of now in terms of production, I don’t think there is a big difference between him and TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, CDogg20 said: Sounds like it’s time to agree to disagree lol It is because Bridgewater plays within the structure and design of an offense with the ball coming out on time in 3, 5, and 7 step drops. All things that Tyrod struggles with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I agree with most of what you’re saying. The main difference between him and TT is the potential Teddy has. He is 3 years younger and has barely played in the NFL. TT has reached his ceiling and we know what he is. But yes as of now in terms of production, I don’t think there is a big difference between him and TT Teddy does have much more potential, I agree but I don’t think he’s going to pan out. Just a hunch. Doesn’t mean i’m not rooting for the kid because I really do hope he turns into a player. 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It is because Bridgewater plays within the structure and design of an offense with the ball coming out on time in 3, 5, and 7 step drops. All things that Tyrod struggles with. That I will agree with you on, the footwork is miles ahead of what Tyrod can do. Tyrod does not do well in anticipation type throws and Teddy is better there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Doesn't Lamar Jackson and Teddy Bridgewater have basically the same measurables physically?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, John from Hemet said: So Bridgewater is not under contract with the vikings? No. They declined to pick up his 5th year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If that isn't motivation to play football at a high level and get paid 20 mil a year I don't know what is. Wow, you should be able to achieve anything with a woman like that behind you. Personally, I'd rather be behind her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Kirk Cousins is my first choice. Bridgewater is my second choice. Cousins would be better than any available vet or draft pick; however, we're not getting him. He's going to Denver. If healthy, I'd take Bridgewater over Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 My main reason for not wanting Bridgewater is injury issues. I remember liking Bridgewater a lot at Louisville, and I'm sure Eric Wood would love to have him here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bridgewater is a rhythm passer I would expect him to have much more rhythm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Rigotz said: I'm surprised to see fans clamoring for Alex Smith when there's a 25 year old QB out there who threw for 3,000 yards and made the pro bowl within his first two seasons. Oh, and if his contract isn't tolled, he doesn't cost us the 2nd round or 3rd round pick that we would have to give up for Alex Smith. Higher upside... we get to keep ALL of our picks ....why is nobody talking about Teddy Bridgewater? Not me . given the choice gimme Bridgewater all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: My main reason for not wanting Bridgewater is injury issues. I remember liking Bridgewater a lot at Louisville, and I'm sure Eric Wood would love to have him here. This. Bridgewater's injury was literally one of the worst you could ever have in regards to an orthopedic knee injury. 40% of the time this injury is severely unstable and chronically painful. He's lucky he didn't need his leg amputated. There is no way I'd bet my team's future on him, unless I was looking for a high stakes gamble. Look, it turned out great for the saints and betting on Brees, but be also played a solid season in SD before being replaced by Rivers. Brees had a torn labrum though, which is like a hangnail compared to Teddy's injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Not me . given the choice gimme Bridgewater all day. See, this is what I don't get. If you want Bridgewater's low output offense, why not just keep TT? He has more weapons. All this stuff about Bridgewater being this classic pocket passer---where is all the passing then? His offenses are anemic, as is his output. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: See, this is what I don't get. If you want Bridgewater's low output offense, why not just keep TT? He has more weapons. All this stuff about Bridgewater being this classic pocket passer---where is all the passing then? His offenses are anemic, as is his output. The difference between TT and Bridgewater is Teddy can read a defense. I'll say it again and maybe for the entire offseason. Any decent QB and we would of beat jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: The difference between TT and Bridgewater is Teddy can read a defense. I'll say it again and maybe for the entire offseason. Any decent QB and we would of beat jacksonville. The steelers lost to Jax at home. Twice. Anyway, if Teddy is so good at reading defenses, why is his offensive output not better than TTs? I don't get it. Where is it hiding? He's great at reading D's, yet he's good for 3000/15? What year is this---1985? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: The steelers lost to Jax at home. Twice. Anyway, if Teddy is so good at reading defenses, why is his offensive output not better than TTs? I don't get it. Where is it hiding? He's great at reading D's, yet he's good for 3000/15? What year is this---1985? Give me a qb that can actually go through his progressions and get to the third option. He's mobile enough to get out of trouble and he's 25 but the biggest difference is TT has had ample time and has not progressed. I would be happy with Bridgewater as long as they give him another target or two. I know people say the WR cupboard was bare this year and I kind of agree but it's been the same garbage from Taylor for a while even with better receivers . I'd roll the dice on Teddy and I'm sure i'm not the only one who would prefer him to Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bridgewater, like Watkins, prior to the draft, said he was a Bills fan growing up. So that part of Teddy I really like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: Give me a qb that can actually go through his progressions and get to the third option. He's mobile enough to get out of trouble and he's 25 but the biggest difference is TT has had ample time and has not progressed. I would be happy with Bridgewater as long as they give him another target or two. I know people say the WR cupboard was bare this year and I kind of agree but it's been the same garbage from Taylor for a while even with better receivers . I'd roll the dice on Teddy and I'm sure i'm not the only one who would prefer him to Taylor. I guess I just don't see this as anything but a lateral move. Like, would you have watched Teddy put up 3000 yards and 14 TDs for the Bills this year and say "yeah, he doesn't do it much, and our offense is ranked 29th, but I really enjoyed watching Teedy go through his possessions and complete 2% more of his passes than TT"? Remember, Teddy's BEST year was 14 TDs. Why would you settle for this kind of output from your QB after dumbing TT for the same result? People can imagine all kinds of magical powers that Teddy possesses , yet his game is what it is. Keenum has been a significant upgrade over Teddy, right off the bench---and this isn't even debatable. Alex Smith is, right now, light years better than Teddy has shown that he could ever be. Totally underwhelming. Hard pass. Edited January 19, 2018 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: This move would be a no brained if he does get released.However because of the risk factor I would bet Taylor would get another year. Frightening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bridgwater reminds me of Hoyer a little. Not a huge fan. I would rather see what we have in NP than go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I guess I just don't see this as anything but a lateral move. Like, would you have watched Teddy put up 3000 yards and 14 TDs for the Bills this year and say "yeah, he doesn't do it much, and our offense is ranked 29th, but I really enjoyed watching Teedy go through his possessions and complete 2% more of his passes than TT"? Remember, Teddy's BEST year was 14 TDs. Why would you settle for this kind of output from your QB after dumbing TT for the same result? People can imagine all kinds of magical powers that Teddy possesses , yet his game is what it is. Keenum has been a significant upgrade over Teddy, right off the bench---and this isn't even debatable. Alex Smith is, right now, light years better than Teddy has shown that he could ever be. Totally underwhelming. Hard pass. I couldn’t agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Rigotz said: I'm surprised to see fans clamoring for Alex Smith when there's a 25 year old QB out there who threw for 3,000 yards and made the pro bowl within his first two seasons. Oh, and if his contract isn't tolled, he doesn't cost us the 2nd round or 3rd round pick that we would have to give up for Alex Smith. Higher upside... we get to keep ALL of our picks ....why is nobody talking about Teddy Bridgewater? Cuz he's not good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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