Buffalo716 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: But the coach didn't want him from day one. And stats in McDermott's defense for a DT is worthless. What are Starrs Stats for McDermott? Actaully kawann short has put up impressive numbers under McDermott his last two years with him he registered 11 sacks and 6 sacks. McDermotts D is very DT friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He could be an All Pro, but he's not. The Bills signed him to a huge contract, so they definitely treated him like a somebody. Maybe Marcel should shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SaviorPeterman said: I posted a similar thread last week and was roasted for it, but I do believe Dareus is speaking the truth and the fact say that McD/Beane had tunnel vision when it came to Dareus's contract and could care less about anything else. Regardless whats done is done and Dareus will certainly have the last laugh if he wins a superbowl with St. Doug and the Jags. And if they upset the Pats it's going to happen. typically you're roasted for the over the top nonsense you post, but whatever gets you through your day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: He's telling the truth. No...he isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. He's no kid. He's a grown man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, teef said: typically you're roasted for the over the top nonsense you post, but whatever gets you through your day. No nonsense about this, McD/Beane wanted Dareus gone and tried to do so from day one. They were obviously looking for more than a 6th round pick at the time or he would have never played for this team in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: No nonsense about this, McD/Beane wanted Dareus gone and tried to do so from day one. They were obviously looking for more than a 6th round pick at the time or he would have never played for this team in 2017. it didn't have to do only with his contract. it was his attitude combined with his actions combined with his production combined with his contract. to say it was just about his contract just isn't correct. Edited January 15, 2018 by teef 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: No nonsense about this, McD/Beane wanted Dareus gone and tried to do so from day one. They were obviously looking for more than a 6th round pick at the time or he would have never played for this team in 2017. The nonsense is thinking that Dareus is "speaking the truth" and McD/Beane were wrong in thinking that they needed to unload Dareus. And it's a 5th round pick, for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, teef said: i didn't have to do only with his contract. it was his attitude combine with his actions combined with his production combined with his contract. to say it was just about his contract just isn't correct. Absolutely. The combination of negatives all added up and his contract was probably the least of it. If none of the other negatives are present and there was no slip in his play, the contract is a total non factor as the expectation was that he would continue to play at the level that earned him that deal in the first place. I heard that he didn't adhere to his prescribed off-season conditioning plan and didn't meet his expected reporting weight. He never gave himself a chance with a new staff that was establishing a new culture and demanding accountability from everyone else and they wouldn't make an exception for him as had been done in the past. This idea of being disrespected is a two way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Actaully kawann short has put up impressive numbers under McDermott his last two years with him he registered 11 sacks and 6 sacks. McDermotts D is very DT friendly Short plays the position they have Kyle Williams playing. They're different positions. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: You know nothing about him personally, other than what you read as we all have. Spare us the analysis (which by the way people here were saying 6-7 years ago). At some point he's not the infantile man boy you're still claiming he is. As for "giving him a shot", the Bills went above and beyond to coddle this kid from day one. They looked away each time he screwed them. The endlessly chimed in their support--even as he was boldly lying to them about his need for and imminent plan for entering rehab. Kim Pegula coddled him on the team plane after yet another screw up. Then the owners and GM decided to make him a wildly rich man, DESPITE his history on the team, with NO financial repercussion placed in the contract for further behavioral problems How on earth can you claim they were not supportive of him? There's zero credibility in that argument. I believe he was talking about McDermott and the new staff. As Was I. Edited January 15, 2018 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, teef said: exactly. i'm a huge dareus fan, but he wasn't exactly treated like garbage. 30? they allowed him to be late to 30 meetings? According to Sal. It’s one of the few times I’ve heard him get a little heated on the radio...he was tired of the excuses for Marcell. It was after a call in which a fan was defending Marcell after missing the bus before the Ravens game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Short plays the position they have Kyle Williams playing. They're different positions. McDermott switches his 1 tech and 3tech depending on over / under combination Kyle played the 1 and 3 tech This year and so does short and Star Edited January 15, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He was saying the same things when he was still here. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/08/22/marcell-dareus-contract-buffalo-bills/32202447/ That was a contract argument. It's not worth even discussing. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I dislike this player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 "I'm a (bleeping) All-Pro," Dareus said. "And y'all aren’t even going to let me play? You aren't even going to give me snaps?" Marcel still doesn't get it, which is why he isn't here. He was the #2 culprit of not buying in when Rex was here (behind Mario). And it sounds like he still wasn't buying in for McDermott. A lot of talented guys don't do well in the NFL because you can't rest on your talent, you have to earn everything. Which means work hard, be team oriented, don't hurt the team with your actions, and especially if you are the highest paid player/one of the most talented guys/vet, be a good example for the younger guys. If Marcel had the heart and work ethic of Kyle, the guy could have been a perennial All Pro. I like Marcel and indeed our run defense dropped a bit when he left and Jax run defense improved a bit, which shows that he is still a good player, and if he put the time in could be a great player, but the fact that he still doesn't understand why he was traded is exactly why he was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Dareus looked good yesterday. He wasn't nearly the player he was in 2014 since he got paid. He was a force that season as was the rest of our defensive line. Enter big pay check and Rex Ryan and it went down hill. I was against the trade of Dareus mid season because he still added value to the run defense and a 5th round pick for him is trash. Still Dareus is obviously clueless and naive. Not really surprising. Bills need to beef up the Defensive line big time this offseason. Marcel did look good.....the problem is he only looked good on a completely stacked jags team. You dont pay a player 100 million dollars to look good......they should be the guy that makes a play no matter what......stays on the field no matter what......the guy that people look to in the locker room when things are not going right.....the guy that the coaches can look to be that leader on the field.....the example setter. Marcel is NONE of those things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, joesixpack said: He's no kid. He's a grown man. He's a troubled man, but Truth. He's 27 years old and wants to be respected as a Grown-ass Man, but in B'lo he didn't act like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Bills never gave nobody $100 Million. However, nobody didn't show up to play quite a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Regardless of what you think of Dareus's maturity level, McD and Beane really did throw away a ton of talent, witness how well a lot of the players they dumped have played for other teams. Now they have to fill a dozen holes on this squad. Maybe they can do it, but the proof will be in their performance. There is an arrogance in them that, if they succeed, will be justified as self-confidence, but if they fail, will be revealed as hubris. The jury is out yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He is still behaving like a child. I’m betting that before Camp starts he will be in trouble and in Doug’s dog house once again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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