boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...CERTAINLY agree on his skill set (irrespective of his politics-could care less)....he was quickly figured out by DC's.....and....his focus became his tats and poses versus the game of football as in "blinded by the limelight".....but he is unofficially being blackballed ( Incognito was as well UNOFFICIALLY) but racial overtones have been woven in.....hence P-Diddy sets the stage as a potential black owner hiring Kaep whose idleness is due to racial overtones in some circles and leaves the ball in the NFL's court to counter when their ratings/opinions are sinking...pretty smart move if he is serious?.......... P Diddy could not even pull it out in the room of the big boys and measure up. His wallet that is He's a chump. It's to the point in 20 years I expect him to run for president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...CERTAINLY agree on his skill set (irrespective of his politics-could care less)....he was quickly figured out by DC's.....and....his focus became his tats and poses versus the game of football as in "blinded by the limelight".....but he is unofficially being blackballed ( Incognito was as well UNOFFICIALLY) but racial overtones have been woven in.....hence P-Diddy sets the stage as a potential black owner hiring Kaep whose idleness is due to racial overtones in some circles and leaves the ball in the NFL's court to counter when their ratings/opinions are sinking...pretty smart move if he is serious?.......... Smart in the short term, however, continue to run a business this way and it will be doomed. Regardless, this team will end up being bought by a bonified multi billionaire much like Pegula. The NFL likes a smooth process and cash in the bank immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: P Diddy could not even pull it out in the room of the big boys and measure up. His wallet that is He's a chump. It's to the point in 20 years I expect him to run for president ...yup...I know, I know...BUT the visual of P-Diddy and Jurry Da Rapmaster Jones, dreads and all, rappin' and chillin' at owners' meetings is something I would pay for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) The “owner” has to own at least a 30% stake per NFL rules. That’s why Bon Jovi was never realistic. His net worth at the time wouldn’t have covered it. They can only take on $250M in debt. Diddy is a realistic option if he has the right group with him. He will need someone at least as wealthy as him and then other minority owners. If someone like Oprah or Jordan got involved it could be done. Im guessing that someone like the Pritzker Family buys it. They were really (quietly) involved in the Bills bidding. Edited December 18, 2017 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: He wouldn't be to partnering with some serious cash and only be a minority owner; which is an issue because he will want to be part of the face of the franchise. He could do it if the group was right, there are a ton of rumors on who the group could be - Oprah, Curry, others. Most here believe it'll be an out of towner and the team will be moved. I could only hope that to be true. Maybe he will move them to San Diego! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 net worth under $3 Billion need not apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: To name them the Sex Panthers. 60% of the time, it works every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, papazoid said: net worth under $3 Billion need not apply Guess that rules me out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I'm ok with Snoop Dog buying the team on 1 condition----he has to run back kickoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The “owner” has to own at least a 30% stake per NFL rules. That’s why Bon Jovi was never realistic. His net worth at the time wouldn’t have covered it. They can only take on $250M in debt. Diddy is a realistic option if he has the right group with him. He will need someone at least as wealthy as him and then other minority owners. If someone like Oprah or Jordan got involved it could be done. Im guessing that someone like the Pritzker Family buys it. They were really (quietly) involved in the Bills bidding. They are tied bigly to Chicago. I'll look in to ties to CLT. Looked up all rich dudes in NC and none of them would be able to; Nascar owners and driver's wouldn't be able to, either. But, I think it'd be awesome to get Dale Jr, Jeff Gordon, Junior Johnson, Richard Petty, Tony Stewart, Richard Childress to buy a team. Those country boys would have a lot to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It’s interesting to see all the celebrity names that pop up when and NFL franchise goes on the market. Then someone with serious money becomes the owner. Right? But then I guess the MJ’s and Oprahs of the world ARE serious money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Guess that rules me out..... ...no way....unpublished reports say Scott pays MODS a billion a year............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s interesting to see all the celebrity names that pop up when and NFL franchise goes on the market. Then someone with serious money becomes the owner. Right? But then I guess the MJ’s and Oprahs of the world ARE serious money. Oprah could probably purchase all the teams in Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think it would be a bad thing, but it's not going to happen. Can anybody see him hanging with the rest of the owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Luka said: Oprah could probably purchase all the teams in Charlotte. Oprah is $eriou$ stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: To name them the Sex Panthers. Trump isn't a Hollywood liberal, so why would he give them that name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s interesting to see all the celebrity names that pop up when and NFL franchise goes on the market. Then someone with serious money becomes the owner. Right? But then I guess the MJ’s and Oprahs of the world ARE serious money. Michael jordan is barely a billionaire. He ain't real money. And his gambling addictions make him a liability Oorsh has $2.5b and still not enough there to buy the team If you're not pushing $10b you're not gonna get no where. And insay that because Panthers will sell for more than $3b. They're in the banking capital of the south, one of the largest outside of NYC. Every gsme is sold out. Suites are sold out. $10,000 club boxes are nothing new with a PSL. The team has more commercial buy in than most teams and is spread upon two states (that generally don't give a !@#$ about them). The Panthers are an expensive team Edited December 18, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, njbuff said: Trump isn't a Hollywood liberal, so why would he give them that name. How could he resist not grabbing these kitties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: How could he resist not grabbing these kitties? No, he will just say that he will grab them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Why are people dismissing Oprah? She is a multi-billionaire last I heard. She could stroke a check and buy the team on her lonesome. Jordan could too I think. Isn't he worth a couple billion? I dont keep up with these mfers money. But every so often Forbes talks about celebrity bank accounts and I get my yearly update. If if you're talking hip hop folks, a conversation without Jay z and his 3/4 of a billion seems incomplete. Edited December 18, 2017 by Juror#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Juror#8 said: Why are people dismissing Oprah? She is worth a multi-billionaire last I heard. She could stroke a check and buy the team on her lonesome. Jordan could too I think. Isn't he worth a couple billion? I dont on keep up with these mfers money. But every so often Forbes talks about celebrity bank accounts and I get my yearly update. If if you're talking hip hop folks, a conversation without Jay z and his 3/4 of a billion seems incomplete. No she couldn't. It would be leveraging her entire net worth. Which is retarded. Which she cannot afford to do. She would have to front something like $1mm up front and have so much saved up etc. There is no way in hell she could afford it by herself. You're insane Jordna is barely worth a billion. With a good chunk of that wrapped up in the Marlin's and hornets. He has gambling issues and there are a ton of issues about his personal life. It'd be the ultimate slap in the face to remove Richardson because he is a creep and jerk to hire a bigger creep and jerk like Jordan. The guy is a sleeve. Edited December 18, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: No she couldn't. It would be leveraging her entire net worth. Which is retarded. Which she cannot afford to do. She would have to front something like $1mm up front and have so much saved up etc. There is no way in hell she could afford it by herself. You're insane Oprah net worth: $2.7B. I don't think she'd have a problem. FYI MJ's worth $1.3B. Jay-Z & Beyonce = $1B. Dr. Dre = $0.8B Snoop is the poor guy with only $135MM Edited December 18, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The “owner” has to own at least a 30% stake per NFL rules. That’s why Bon Jovi was never realistic. His net worth at the time wouldn’t have covered it. They can only take on $250M in debt. Diddy is a realistic option if he has the right group with him. He will need someone at least as wealthy as him and then other minority owners. If someone like Oprah or Jordan got involved it could be done. Im guessing that someone like the Pritzker Family buys it. They were really (quietly) involved in the Bills bidding. PTR. See above. Winfrey could not finance the purchase. 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Oprah net worth: $2.7B. I don't think she'd have a problem. FYI MJ's worth $1.3B. MJ has over almost $200mm in the hornets. A few mill in the Marlin's. $$$ invested in golf courses etc. He couldn't take out enough of a loan to come close. And even if he did he wouldn't be able to purchase it by league rules. And Oprah having her entire portfolio invested in the team and it'll still require more than that... Yeah. Not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Michael jordan is barely a billionaire. He ain't real money. And his gambling addictions make him a liability Oorsh has $2.5b and still not enough there to buy the team If you're not pushing $10b you're not gonna get no where. And insay that because Panthers will sell for more than $3b. They're in the banking capital of the south, one of the largest outside of NYC. Every gsme is sold out. Suites are sold out. $10,000 club boxes are nothing new with a PSL. The team has more commercial buy in than most teams and is spread upon two states (that generally don't give a !@#$ about them). The Panthers are an expensive team Certainly much more expensive than the Bills. If you can believe the on-line BS, Oprah is about $2.8 billion, with MJ about half of that. Oprah could be the lead at 30% or more, but who says she even wants to? There’s a reason the grocery store check out line is full of celeb stuff. It fascinates many people for some reason. I used to travel to Charlotte a lot when I was with First Union. Funny stories about the back and forth with Ed Crutchfield and Hugh McColl. Big time banking center for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: PTR. See above. Winfrey could not finance the purchase. You mean the part about not being able to leverage her full worth? I don't see how $2.7B is not enough, especially if she puts a group together. Seems like she has more than enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Estimated value $2.3b in Sept. Likely gone up with success and tickets hotter than hell https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/amp/ Try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: PTR. See above. Winfrey could not finance the purchase. MJ has over almost $200mm in the hornets. A few mill in the Marlin's. $$$ invested in golf courses etc. He couldn't take out enough of a loan to come close. And even if he did he wouldn't be able to purchase it by league rules. And Oprah having her entire portfolio invested in the team and it'll still require more than that... Yeah. Not gonna happen Now that begs the question can Micahel Jordan own and NFL and an NBA franchise in the same town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: You mean the part about not being able to leverage her full worth? I don't see how $2.7B is not enough, especially if she puts a group together. Seems like she has more than enough. She does. But she would never bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Now that begs the question can Micahel Jordan own and NFL and an NBA franchise in the same town? Haha! Better question....would the NFL even have him as an owner? I have serious doubts. 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: She does. But she would never bother. Is there even any indication she has ANY interest whatsoever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Haha! Better question....would the NFL even have him as an owner? I have serious doubts. Probably not, especially with the gambling issues that follow him. Wouldn't want another owner with sexual harassment issues, probably. Edited December 18, 2017 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You mean the part about not being able to leverage her full worth? I don't see how $2.7B is not enough, especially if she puts a group together. Seems like she has more than enough. Yea I'm with you. Seems like she could do it without leveraging too much. Especially if (note "if") the 1.5 billion valuation is correct. But I think I was mistaken as to the depths of #23s pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Now that begs the question can Micahel Jordan own and NFL and an NBA franchise in the same town? Why not, the Pegula's own two teams in the same city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Is there any single Athlete or Entertainer that could buy an NFL franchise given the guidelines to purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: The league will never allow snoop or any of his peeps to buy an NFL franchise. Just what they need, a drug infestation in a front office! The money is the real issue. If he had the money, they wouldn’t care. The NFL’s phoney morality stuff is a joke. They would have allowed Charles Manson to own a team, if he had the money. Remember when gambling and Vegas was an issue? The almighty dollar ended that morality crusade quickly. Plus, you can’t get much worse than Irsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Is there any single Athlete or Entertainer that could buy an NFL franchise given the guidelines to purchase? I’d say Jay-Z/Beyoncé is probably the likeliest. They are up over $1B and have an opportunity to continue growing it. http://www.businessinsider.com/richest-celebrities-in-the-world-2016-8/#1-madonna-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Tiger Woods could have bought a team but B word stole half his cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Richardson only owns 48% rest is by a group of investors. Someone could buy just his 48% or buy out all the minority owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Bomb Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) I hope some 3rd wave feminist ownership group buys the team, fills all the important positions with women, then the franchise becomes a laughingstock for decades to come. Edited December 19, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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