keepthefaith Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 28 minutes ago, DC Greg said: Peter, man! Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t disagree but they were the top scoring offense through 16 weeks last year. IMO, that’s a massive indictment on this offense. Why would you run “your offense” instead of an offense that was really successful? That’s foolish. That’s Rex Ryanesque 100 percent agree with that. Don't have to tell me twice that Dennison is an idiot haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Run, Run 3rd and long and punt is Dennisons playbook. Roman was light years better then Dennison. Are you sure? Or is this the playbook for a Flawed QB that cant execute the simplest concept of a West Coast Offense?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: The last 2 games were were just atrocious and I realize that changing the QB is the most impactful spark but that was far from the biggest problem (especially in the Jets game). Maybe that’s the point that it doesn’t matter who is out there because we can’t stop anybody so let’s get a look at Peterman. From my perspective they should have waited until they were out. A win this week and they would have been very much alive (and still are). I feel like the D quit in those games. They stopped people before. There's not much other explanation for 14 YPC with 8 in the box as per Rodak. It's too separate issues anyway. I'm sure they will try to fix the D. How do you fix Tyrod when every team is going to keep him in the pocket from now on ? Is making a QB change when you are out of the playoffs acceptable? Or should they try to win while they have a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It's this simple. Despite all the captain checkdown talk Tyrod's best throws were deep throws. Problem is they traded away all the deep speed and left him with a bunch of undersized TE's at WR. Then mix in that the running game is not working and now teams are playing coverage. Instead of 3rd and 4 where they are afraid of the run and Taylor can get passes off downfield, run, or actually check it down and still have a chance to pick up a first we are consistently in 3rd and long, frequently double digit long, and there just isn't anywhere to work the ball and the pocket is collapsing too fast. I really don't think Peterman will have any better success. Both QB's are shackled by this ****ty running attack and an o-line that too frequently let's at least on defender run untouched into the backfield. This is on the coaching. I hope Peterman proves me wrong but I largely think until they replace Dennison neither QB will do that well. It's going to look like the 0rton year all over again except with a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: The official end of the COT Edited November 15, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: I hope so. But you know past regimes have made this mistake ***cough cough*** Edwards and it has come back to bite them. Stick with the plan NO Matter what Peterman does. DRAFT A QB I agree, but Peterman determines who and where they will target a QB IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, ScottLaw said: It's no different. same situation just on offense this year as opposed to defense the last two. As has been said several times, Pegula doesn't have a clue. how on Earth is Pegula responsible for benching Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Is it encouraging? Yes, because it shows this version of OBD will make tough decisions and go with it. If you want to get out of the forest, you have to start walking in one direction. Is this the right move? Dunno, haven't been at practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Absolutely. Would it really shock you if they didn't given how many holes they have(and created) on this team? Nothing shocks me with the Bills anymore. It will be a horrible mistake. Their plan obviously has been get enough capital to get a QB early. Nothing and i mean nothing should change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: About .500 because the defense was down right awful. The defense was never downright awful. They were middle of the road with Rex, and have had a few bad games this year, just like defenses always always do. The Patriots defense is horrendous, Pittsburgh was terrible for the better part of the last five years. Defense doesnt win you anything! You have to stop waiting for the anomaly like the Jaguars this year, and start understanding what wins in the NFL and Tyrod Freaking Taylor is not it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: 100 percent agree with that. Don't have to tell me twice that Dennison is an idiot haha agree with this 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Are you sure? Or is this the playbook for a Flawed QB that cant execute the simplest concept of a West Coast Offense?? he cant, but he should not be asked too. But something had to change, and it was either QB or scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, NewEraBills said: I agree, but Peterman determines who and where they will target a QB IMO. If any of Peterman’s play in the final weeks take them off a QB early then yes they are still idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Little surprised they did ahead of the game. I said a bunch on here I thought they would maybe make a switch at halftime if Taylor struggled again, but I think after seeing the ball come out quick last week with Peterman was probably the difference maker. I am excited that I will be at the game first hand for what could be the beginning of a new Era for the Bills...of course it could also be like the Niner game I went to and had to sit through Todd Collins as well haha. I have liked Peterman all along, so I am looking forward to seeing what he can do in meaningful minutes. #GoBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: I feel like the D quit in those games. They stopped people before. There's not much other explanation for 14 YPC with 8 in the box as per Rodak. It's too separate issues anyway. I'm sure they will try to fix the D. How do you fix Tyrod when every team is going to keep him in the pocket from now on ? Is making a QB change when you are out of the playoffs acceptable? Or should they try to win while they have a shot? Hey man, I may not know much, but I know one thing. With a man like Kyle Williams on defense, he won't allow anyone to quit. I don't think they quit and I can't figure out what's wrong with the D but I know we have to clean it up. But quitting isn't the reason. That much Im sure of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I was an advocate of the move. That being said I really hope this has more to do with Peterman being ready to succeed than Taylor failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Tyrod played AWFUL against the Saints. He played solid against the Jets.... so essentially one awful game against the Saints and he gets the pull. Good coaches fit their playbook to the players they have. I recall Dennison saying in the offseason he didn't care what we did on offense last year.... great! Exactly. He should have played the cards he got dealt. But he tried to change their somewhat successful offence the past 2 years, into something they are not Edited November 15, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: agree with this he cant, but he should not be asked too. But something had to change, and it was either QB or scheme. And it was the QB if that QB cant grasp a Modern passing concept he needs to be on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: The official end of the COT Nope, he will be starting next year somewhere and if he succeeds, believe me you will have so many people telling you “I told you so.” That’s how it always works. It’s the same way after any ex-Bills players has a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: If any of Peterman’s play in the final weeks take them off a QB early then yes they are still idiots Sort of premature to say that...I mean, what if the Bills go 5-2 the rest of the way, make the playoffs, and Peterman is a prime reason why? Not saying it will happen but you're sort of putting yourself in a box there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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